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Partial Refunds May Come to Red Light Cam Violators Under Settlement

Payout is expected to be minimal, however

If you received a ticket from one of Brick Township's red light cameras prior to July 2012, you may eventually be owed a refund under a legal settlement struck Friday.

But don't expect to be reimbursed anywhere near the $85 you had to pay to settle your own case against the camera.

American Traffic Solutions, the vendor of Brick's red light cameras, along with 16 municipalities – including Brick – were sued earlier this year after the state shut down the cameras in those municipalities after finding that a different standard was applied to calculate the length of amber, or yellow, lights than state law required.

Though in most cases, including in Brick, the yellow lights were eventually found to have complied with the prescribed standard, legal action ensued.

The class action suit filed earlier this year was settled after "extensive mediation" with retired Federal Magistrate Judge Joel Rosen, a statement from ATS said. The settlement will preclude similar lawsuits against other ATS communities which had not been previously sued. 

Those who received red light camera tickets prior to the July 2012 certification by state officials will receive a notice in the mail regarding their participation, said Charles Territo, an ATS spokesman.

"Those eligible will be notified by mail once the settlement is approved by the courts," Territo told Brick Patch. "Approval should come sometime in January with notifications beginning sometime in February."

The refund owed to violators will be approximately $6, Territo said.

An attorney for the plaintiff in the case said the matter should now be closed.

"As far as we are concerned, this agreement puts these issues to rest and fairly resolves the concerns of the class,” said attorney Stephen DeNittis. "By settling these cases not only for themselves, but also on behalf of their customers, ATS has ensured that costly and potentially lengthy litigation will be avoided."

Under the terms of the agreement, ATS and their municipal customers expressly rejected any wrongdoing.

Bob December 29, 2012 at 09:38 PM
read the articles on Bricks red light system. Bricks were NEVER found to be broken. The light at Brick and 70 was found to be not up to code BUT their were NEVER any summons issued from this light. THis is all about the lawyers. HOW MUCH DID THEY MAKE. garentee its more then what the victims got
Bob December 29, 2012 at 09:39 PM
fight it you have the same acces to the video they viewed. If what you say is right then you will win
Daniel Nee (Editor) December 29, 2012 at 09:51 PM
Nancy, it was actually not broken. The length of the yellow light complied with the law. They just used a different standard to determine its compliance. But it still complied when tested against the prescribed standard.
Da Poppa December 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM
That is exactly what happened to me. Turning from west bound rt 70 onto brick blvd. the traffic got stopped turning into the back entrance of Best Buy. I made the light easily, but got jammed up in te intersection. A few weeks later I got the ticket. I didn't even know it changed! It's nothing more than a money grab by Politicans too lazy or afraid to cut costs, ie LAYOFF DO NOTHING EMPLOYEES!
Da Poppa December 30, 2012 at 12:03 AM
@Bob, you seem to think everyone has the time necessary to fight these tickets. You have to formally request a copy of the video. Guess what, they don't give them away for free. Then you have to find your car, then show up in court to plead your case. When was the last time you saw a judge say, "oh, you're right and the cop/camera was wrong." ahhhh, never ...
Opinionated December 30, 2012 at 03:40 AM
If the cameras were legit, why do they have to pay anything?
A. Einstein December 30, 2012 at 07:21 AM
I was rolling slowly through the intersection because the car in front of me was moving slowly.I received a ticket for running the light because the pic showed I was moving forward in two different shots with the red light lit. What should I have done? Stopped and gotten T-Boned? Instead of getting hurt I paid $85. Now, I get a whopping big check for $6. Woooo Hoooo!. That should put a big dent in the money I owe from damage to my home from Sandy. F Me.
jerseyswamps December 30, 2012 at 12:25 PM
If our local politicians really wanted to be fair then they would not have these photos reviewed by a cop before a ticket is issued. Don't you think the cop is letting go town officials, family, friends and cars with PBA and FOP stickers and shields? Let the computer give a few $85 to the mayor and cops and let's see how fast they scrap the money grab.
CM December 30, 2012 at 02:19 PM
If you don't want to pay the fines, avoid the intersections with these lights. Avoid the towns with these lights. Never make a right on red with these lights. Slow down precipitously when approaching these lights. And if you want to be daring slam on your brakes when you see yellow.
barbara December 30, 2012 at 02:34 PM
$6, what a joke.....
Tom December 30, 2012 at 03:35 PM
$6.00 will get you close to one and half gallons of gas that will get you to the voting booths and boot whoever is in favor of these cams.
grace December 30, 2012 at 05:26 PM
got one in brick too..christmas eve last year i will take the 6 back but i want it sent to me cause no way i am driving there to request a refund..that will cost me over 6 in gas
Sal Petoia December 30, 2012 at 06:00 PM
If, as Dan Nee says, the cameras were found to be correct, then there should be no reimbursement of the six dollars. However, since the six dollars is being offered, isn't that an admission of some reasonable doubt as to the validity of the cameras? And if there is "reasonable doubt", shouldn't the alleged offenders be declared "not guilty"? And if "not guilty", shouldn't the entire cost of the tickets be returned? As many have already posted, the cameras pose an inherent danger in that in trying to avoid a ticket when the light turns amber, the natural impulse is to slam on the brakes. But that increases the potential for the person behind to rear end your vehicle if they don't react in time. The cameras should go… as should all the elected officials who support them when election time comes around.
Candice December 30, 2012 at 07:45 PM
actually as I said...I'venever gotten one, Idon'trun red lights...butI do knowmany people as well who have gotten them for making LEGAL right hand turns on red so how does that make them set up right?...even most police I know can't stand those cameras...I don't get the hostile attitude, you must be one of the people getting rich off these things...it's been all over the media about the problems with the camera and hundreds of false tickets issued...in Newark for example they had police officers directing traffic telling people to cross the intersection and over a hundred tickets were issued that people were forced to pay, even when you could see the officer on the camera waving the cars by...I guess once you get a ticket yo have to pay when you didn't do anything illegal you'll understand
Candice December 30, 2012 at 08:14 PM
I agree with Sal...my husband is a tow truck driver in Woodbridge and rahway n they have these cameras at every single traffic light and he has towed more cars from accidents of people slamming on their brakes for yellow lights than pretty much anything else...let the police do their jobs, these cameras are just another form of outsourcing as I said in an earlier post...I'm friends with many police because of my husband working for them and we have yet to find one who approves of these cameras...they don't even know who's driving when they issue the tickets...there's probably6 or 7 people who use my vehicle, but no matter what I'd be the one to get the ticket...hasn't happened to me, but just another flaw in it...we can't keep replacing humans with machines
Laura Reeder December 30, 2012 at 08:25 PM
Keep your 6$. That's a bunch of Bullshit !
J.JONES December 30, 2012 at 09:25 PM
Money maker...for township....not going away..Just don't run the light..slow down and stop...simple...
Joseph Woolston Brick December 30, 2012 at 10:42 PM
All you have to do is Google red light cams and you will see how town after town through out the United States have removed them, how rear end collisions increased at most of the intersections they were installed at. Some states have outlawed them entirely. At first these cameras seem to be a sweet deal for the towns, until the lawsuits start to pile up, most of the suits have been by people who are rear ended at these intersections,. They sue the townships for creating a hazardous condition and most of them have won. Also fighting the tickets as well. Too many people just lay down and take it, DON'T! I've never received one, but if I do and it's from making a legal right on red turn, I'm fighting it!
Bob December 30, 2012 at 11:50 PM
@ Da Poppa you DO NOT need to formally request a copy of the video. When you receive you summons in the mail you get the web site and a PIN number to view your incident. After viewing it you can then decude to contest it. The video only shows your incident so theres no finding your vehicle. The court uses the exact same method when you contest your ticket. What you are saying is a lie and only spreads more misinformation about the program. I am no fan of it but I realy dislike it when people purposfully mislead others
Bob December 30, 2012 at 11:59 PM
@Candice try not to use Newark as an example. They are the most corrupt. They still make up parking tickets to vehicles that were never near the city
jack smith December 31, 2012 at 02:52 AM
Had my house devastated during Hurricane Sandy. Was fortunate enough to have friends and family come and help with the reconstruction. Unfortunately, one of my family members who was coming over every weekend for the past two months,from a few towns over got a red light ticket. I told him I would pay for it. He is having financial difficulties as well, but I would hate to see somebody losing money, for trying to help out another brother in a time of need. Been staying with friends for the last two+ plus months and will be lucky if I can afford to replace half of what I lost, but as long as the town and some company out of Arizona get $85 out of my pocket during the most difficult time in my family's life, then how can I complain? Seriously, this is a joke. Suspend, the red light cameras for a while until people can get their lives back in order.
Jim December 31, 2012 at 06:47 AM
Tear these Nazi cameras down!
A Resident December 31, 2012 at 01:08 PM
How many hundreds or thousands of cars go through these intersections in Brick everyday? And how many get tickets each day? Sounds like the system is working and those few that are not following the laws are getting tickets. And for those few, you have the right to argue/fight the ticket....there is video proof....is easy to argue your side when it's on moving camera footage.
John Zingis December 31, 2012 at 01:44 PM
I'd love to know how much the attorney made for proceeding with this case? Anyone know?
Bob December 31, 2012 at 02:59 PM
From what I've read it's arround 1.2-1.4mil nice
Candice December 31, 2012 at 04:19 PM
actually I'd have to say Tom's river is one of the most corrupt governments around...and Newark actually gave people full refunds for falsely issued tickets and changed their system so people aren't getting tickets for legal things...can't say much for brick being I know little about it, but being in TR for q5 years....they weren't bad until they went from Dover township to all Tom's river...even if Newark is the most corrupt, they ended up using full refunds for false tickets and are now much more careful before they send out tickets...there will always be errors ...but hey they're trying
Opinionated December 31, 2012 at 05:31 PM
Why the need for "scameras"? Brick is the second safest town in America. And don't forget, they got no snow last winter too!! Bricktucky, where the BS is as high as an elephany's eye!
Opinionated December 31, 2012 at 05:31 PM
Sorry, I meant elephant.
James C. Walker January 01, 2013 at 01:51 AM
Whoop-De-Do !! A $6 refund on tickets from $85 to $140, giving back 4% to 7% of the corrupt and illegal collections with uncertified cameras. Even the courts in NJ uphold most of the predatory red light camera cash registers systems. It is about MONEY, not safety, and even the courts are of very little help. The only real solution is to ban red light cameras statewide. Contact your state Assemblymen and Senators to ask them to vigorously and openly support Senator Doherty's bill S1952 which will ban the cameras. Ask the legislators to work hard to get this bill passed. Contact Governor Christie to ask him to support the bill and sign it when passed by the legislature. Then contact your local officials to demand that the cameras NOT be used in your area, or be removed if already in use. Vote out any local officials who support the cameras at the next opportunity. The money grab scam of red light camera cash registers CAN be ended if enough NJ residents get behind the drive to end it. James C. Walker, National Motorists Association
S. Bar January 30, 2013 at 07:05 PM
Not really easy when you have to take off work, miss pay, probably pay a court fee, to see in an overly crowed court room for hours to wait your turn. If a human cop had pulled me over I would have been able to explain the situation right then and there.

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