Budget, Ordinances on Council Meeting Agenda

CShorShell February 21, 2012 at 07:16 pm

Yes, you are correct JHill. Private collection is cheaper than public collection.

CShorShell February 21, 2012 at 07:20 pm

We only voted to keep the DPW for a year. Something they don't want people to be aware of. A budget is only good for a year and then everything is up for negotiation again the following year. Why? Because they factor inflation, salary increases, and benefit increases into each budget each year.
Ugh! I knew this was going to happen!!! People are just SOOO uninformed.

TimeForChange February 21, 2012 at 07:32 pm

CShorShell - That is not correct. Their declaration to the taxpayer was that they needed the increase over the 2% cap to keep the DPW and not to lay off 20+ PD. Their direct quote was "We should be good for 4-5 years"

36anonanon February 21, 2012 at 07:45 pm

Stinger that is a classic...even funnier when it comes from your tag line...stinger. Brick PD doesn't t carry tasters, in fact no NJ police do....although that may change down the road. If Brick does eventually carry tasers they have to be tased and video taped. Not fun, OC Spray (known elsewhere as pepper spray) sucks. Not fun getting sprayed.

Scott Anthony February 21, 2012 at 08:30 pm

Turn u on? what a creep. dont go to the meeting. youll make us all look bad

Watchman February 21, 2012 at 08:32 pm

Hey coach,people like you get respect because you got it the Smith Barney old fashion way YOU EARNED IT.The mayors behavior of late gets him a big fat GOOSE EGG.

Scott Anthony February 21, 2012 at 08:33 pm

No it isnt. get your facts straight. learn how to read. typical bths education.

Joseph Woolston Brick February 21, 2012 at 08:37 pm

JHill
Your living in a fantasy world. At first it will look like privatizing our waste pickup looks cheaper, down the road watch out. Then will come other services that they want to privatize, more money out of your pocket, then you will find your taxes either staying the same or being raised while paying out of pocket for services the taxes used to pay for. Move to Wall Twp and get to know what good is, you'll be back in Brick before long, but only if we don't follow in Wall Twp's foot steps.

Joseph Woolston Brick February 21, 2012 at 08:48 pm

May I suggest moving the meeting over to Brick High Schools auditorium, from what I have heard just around this neighborhood, there is going to be quite a few people heading to the meeting and if the amount of people going from this neighborhood represents how many will be going from the rest of town, they better move it to Blueclaw Stadium.

bths06 February 21, 2012 at 10:42 pm

Lori- remember back in the beginning of the year when a certain few people were stepped on, yelled at and a few other things that I can't remember off the top of my head. I think since then they were looking to have police at the meetings. so now its everyone and not just a certain few. I sure hope though that everyone is respected but able to tell their concern about the issue at hand.

localexpert February 21, 2012 at 10:56 pm

Come one come all to this event..See the ring master STEVE squirm as the informed citizens see his act up close and personal.OCCUPY AND RESPECT ....Come on down...

Tired of the BS February 21, 2012 at 11:09 pm

Agreed!!! When we had that microburst storm last summer, I was told by DPW that the debris (other than tree limbs) were considered construction debris & I would have to pay extra to have it picked up...REALLY!!!!! It was storm debris. That is why I should favor DPW over private pick??? Explain that Minimew!!

Citizen O February 21, 2012 at 11:42 pm

What happened?

Need a Change February 21, 2012 at 11:43 pm

New Democrat President and council..stand up to this mayor..we voted you folks in because you promised a change ..SO DON'T LET US DOWN..

Need a Change February 21, 2012 at 11:43 pm

Save the jobs ..and get rid of the mayor....

Minimew726 February 21, 2012 at 11:44 pm

Tired of BS, I will start by saying you are full of BS!!! DPW doesn't collet fees for picking up ANYTHING. THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE!!!!! Either they pick it up or they don't. Within the first few weeks of the storm they were picking up pretty much ALL debris caused by the storm including fencing, how do I know this?? I had fencing destroyed by that same microburst. If someone from the DPW told you "you would have to pay extra" you should have gotten their name and had them FIRED because what they supposedly did is illegal. So in closing to you Tired of BS, I don'y buy the crap you are trying to sell here. You wan to try to discredit the DPW, try harder and try to figure out a plausable sceniro

Citizen O February 21, 2012 at 11:51 pm

Would love an update once available

Mark Story Jenks February 22, 2012 at 12:58 am

I have plenty of feathers, but no tar.

Tired of the BS February 22, 2012 at 03:14 am

@ minimew....OUCH, who peed in your coffee?? They most certainly did. Four workers stood at the end of my driveway and said there was a fee. I did call DPW and got nothing but a run-a-round. Our neighbors & I ended up burning all the debris in our backyard fire-pits, including the remaining trees that they would not come back to pick up. I'm not saying they didn't remove most of the tree limbs, but they most definitely did not pick up anything other tree limbs in my neighbor. What makes you think that a mere taxpaying resident can get an union worker fired any way?

Tired of the BS February 22, 2012 at 03:16 am

and before you correct my typo, I meant to say "in my neighborhood."

gail sands February 22, 2012 at 03:44 am

Well certainly less folks then were expected. Talk about squirm. The mayor presented his budget and a screen with his calculations and facts concerning how he arrived at his decision and then "walked out" of the meeting not to return. We later learned from the new council more news about the timing of their getting the new budget which they just received before the meeting. No time to even guess what was in it. I gave the Mayor more credit than that, but guess I was totally wrong. Shame on you Mr. Mayor. Yes to the new council. they talked to us like we mattered and so did the PW employees matter. Which was so great to hear. Maybe theres hope yet.

Kevin Calhoun February 22, 2012 at 04:27 am

What about leaves and bulk pickups. I know if I had to pay someone to take away my leaves and spring/fall cleaning every year that would add up.

Kevin Calhoun February 22, 2012 at 04:33 am

What do you expect from someone who said that it would more expensive for private 6 months ago but now is trying to say it will be really cheaper. When you say 2 completely opposite things only one of them can be true, which makes one of them false, which makes him a liar.

The Judge February 22, 2012 at 11:52 am

At least he is championing that all important puppy mill ordinance.

Geoff Dubrowsky February 22, 2012 at 03:01 pm

The benefits of private pick up I have witnessed first hand when living up in Northern NJ. We had 3 companies to choose from and pick the best price or plan. We then had separate colored garbage bags for each provider. This bag idea kept costs lower for single's and seniors because they produce less trash than a family of 4 plus. The bags were left at the side of our homes not in the street so the streets were kept free for cars. Brick with it's numerous Snow Birds (lucky ducks) and it highly taxed summer beach residents would see a great savings. This seems to be a fair option since many of them pay in excess of 100K in property tax and still have no voting rights in Brick. The privatization will reduce costs but the jobs lost would have to be address possibly in a rehire arrangement with the private carriers as a criteria to getting a permit to operate in town. Just My two cents!

Portia March 3, 2012 at 08:57 pm

I would urge members of the Council to maintain the Department of Public Works from elimination. The Department serves a multitude of purposes and other cost saving initiatives should be taken before implementing Draconian Measures which once done can't be readily restored. Our employees' contributions to our Township are significant, and they enhance our quality of life here in Brick Township.
Consider analysis of overtime cost within the Department and in All Departments. Eliminate overtime cost by eliminating garbage or recycling pick up on Holidays. Do away with the "Get Up and Go" program and utilize that man power to assist with Signs or in other areas. Reduce and/or eliminate associated OVERTIME costs within all Departments. Over time expenditures should have to be analyzed in a meaningful way. To-date overtime expenditures remain unchecked, Department Heads need to share in the sacrifice. In an effort to save funds, I asked a Dept. Head to consider relinquishing his taxpayer paid vehicle. He laughed and declined to give up his vehicle. I suspect that should overtime expenditures and approval of same be DISCUSSED at the Council Meetings, much needed accountability would be achieved and tax dollars would be saved.

Watchman March 3, 2012 at 10:00 pm

Folks, come to the meeting this Tues.and hear a presentation on THE BIGGEST piece of budget,LA POLICIA. $14,950,000 in salary $1,190,000 in overtime,etc,etc,etc

paul b March 3, 2012 at 11:31 pm

WOW, unbelievable. For one department the overtime cost alone are up $300,000 from $900,000 several years ago. Thought that the Chief was chosen to reign in spending. And, they want to eliminate Public Works?

Thomas Anthony March 5, 2012 at 11:07 pm

The 2012 Proposed Budget has appropriated another $175,000 for seven new police vehicles . . .

Oscar Wilde March 5, 2012 at 11:30 pm

bunch of overpaid ticket writers are what is pushing you homeowners out of your houses ......time to get rid of the police state and LIVE FREE
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