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Boat Ramp Closure Debate Heats Up

Committee will look into closure of ramp by administration

Councilman Dan Toth and Mayor Stephen C. Acropolis squared off Tuesday night over a boat ramp that Acropolis' administration earlier this month.

The Glenwood Place boat ramp, a dirt ramp at a street end that leads to the Metedeconk River, has been blocked off with a guard rail. The closing of the ramp led to an outcry in the boating community, with Toth leading the charge.

"The ramp, and therefore public access, was closed unilaterally, without benefit of discussion, public input, or state review, and is a hardship to many Brick Township residents that may not have the luxury or means to be able to enjoy our waters alternatively," said Toth, reading from a statement he had prepared.

Toth called for the ramp to be immediately reopened. Acropolis said that would not happen.

"The administration is not going to open up the boat ramp again," said Acropolis.

Now, a committee of the township council, which has yet to be formed, will look into the matter.

Acropolis has said complaints from neighbors about public urination, littering and noise spurred the administration to close the ramp. Toth, whose family owns property adjacent to the ramp, said the problems are being overstated, and Acropolis should have brought concerns about the ramp to council rather than unilaterally deciding to shut it down.

Opinions from the public were mixed at Tuesday's council meeting.

"I'm glad that it is closed unless major changes are made," said Denis Ambio of Manor Drive. "Last year, two girls actually squatted on the water's edge and went to the bathroom."

Ambio said users of the ramp can be heard early in the morning and late at night using foul language. He also said people have been launching large performance boats that make a lot of noise – especially when boaters have kept their engines running for long periods of time.

"It's the same as someone leaving a Harley Davidson running with open pipes in front of your house," said Ambio. "We still enjoy it, but now the balance has shifted. It's more of a pain than a pleasure right now."

But former Councilwoman Helen Fayad, who owns property near the ramp, said the concerns are overblown.

"The've been clean, neat and have caused me absolutely no problems whatsoever," Fayad said, of boaters. "Glenwood was open and was being used in 1971 when I came down here. I've seen no problem with it."

Fayad suggested putting an ordinance in place that limits the size of a boat that can be launched there.

Jay Santos said his neighbors use the ramp because they can't afford the prices of private marina launches. He spoke about one struggling neighbor who launches his boat at the ramp and fishes to feed his family.

"He freezes the fish to get him through the winter. I'm sure he's not the only one," said Santos.

Acropolis took issue with Santos' statement, however, telling him that the township-owned Traders Cove Marina charges $10 per day to launch and retrieve a boat, and $100 for unlimited launches.

"If you're launching a $12,000 Waverunner, and you can't afford the $10 at a ramp, much less a $150,000 Cigarette boat, come on," he said.

"If anybody can't pay the $100 fee at Traders Cove, I'll pay for the first 10," said Acropolis. "I am willing to take $1,000 of my own money to pay for those first 10 people."

Toth said residents should have free access to the water, and keeping the boat ramp was in line with state Department of Environmental Protection policies that encourage public access to tidal waters.

"This ramp has been used by generations of Brick Township residents," Toth said.

Council President John Ducey said a comittee of the township council, led by Toth, will look into the ramp's closure.

Vin July 26, 2012 at 04:38 PM
It's kind of funny how we continue to discuss the concept of public property. I'm not sure exactly when it happened but it has become evident that at some point in time "public" property became TOWNSHIP property and is to be treated as private property owned by said township. It's really quite sad. As I said before the best solution to this really would have been to look for more sites to open free ramps throughout the waterfront to relieve overcrowding at this one because that is really what the heart of the issue is. Which leads to the question of why isn't the traders cove ramp free? It's a park right? public property? for the public to use? nope township property and you best pay the township more to use it. Taxes? nah they don't really cover that. It's not like it was our money that built it right?
Art Sholty July 26, 2012 at 05:37 PM
Hey Brick Resident, you're wrong, The Mayor is REpublican but Bullet Dan Toth is a "Galvanized Democrat," who jumped ship and now lives with the Dems. He thinks that by doing this he will Jap the Mayor. He is fastly garnering negative votes for his contention as a Mayor in 2013. Never happen as long as I and many, many more continue getting on his case and letting others know what unethical problems he is conducting here in Brick and elsewhere.. The ELSE WHERE will be given to all at the proper time and place. Wait 'till you hear it........................WOW. Right now Bullet Dan is only out for himself, nobody else. Why do you think he ABSTAINS SO VERY MUCH? Think about it and while you're at it, the FAYAD EMPIRE of which he is a sort of relative, continues to promote him. His father got caught building a dock a year ago and was told to stop but did he? I know, its up yo you to find out. This happened on the other river. LOng live the FAYAD COMPOUND and DAn Toth and his $$$$$$$.
Anthony July 26, 2012 at 05:40 PM
Keep the ramp closed and start using Traders Cove. I'd like to keep my garbage being collected. Thank you.
Art Sholty July 26, 2012 at 06:35 PM
@ UNAWARE and GLENN, I can understand both of you which reminds me of an airport that was built many years ago. It was named IDLEWILD, later JFK in NYC. Before the airport was opened there were only a few homes built but after it was open for business...............WOW. The town of Lawrence is the name and after there were many more homes constructed, the home owners got together and wanted JFK closed because of noise. It was OK with the owners because this would bring tax relief etc. make more jobs open and in general it would be a home run for all. NO WAY JOSE. The old cry seems to be surfacing once more......................"not near my dwelling can you construct this problem." Well the Mayor, yes my friend, has tried to help and you boo birds have come to roost on his head. After hearing your remarks on this Batch page, I don't feel sorry for you one bit. Move out if need be but there always will be a Brick, "The jewel of South Jersey." With or without you.
BW July 26, 2012 at 06:57 PM
" Move out if need be but there always will be a Brick, "The jewel of South Jersey." With or without you" Funny coming from a man who has only been a resident of Brick since March of 1999, and only lives here for 6 months out of the year, the other 6 is spent in flordia, tell people who have lived here for 50 years to move if they dont like it. Tell me Art is that what you were told up north when you came here 12 years ago? Seriously Artie, move on move out, Steve will put you in front of the bus to lessen the impact it has on him. Ask anyone who has had anything to do with him. I hear Mikey is singing so loud they even put off his sentencing because his song is so sweet.
clyde July 26, 2012 at 09:09 PM
Is the launch in Forge Pond off of RT70 still open?? I know its a bit out of the way from Mantoloking rd, but if you have a smaller low draft vessel, it still FREE. Only downfall is you have to go under Rt70 so boat has to have low deck height.
BW July 26, 2012 at 09:11 PM
shhhhhhhhhh dont remind him about that one he will close it next
Slippery Slope July 26, 2012 at 09:21 PM
Its still there. That is county property and the rt 70 bridge makes it impossible to go under if you have a boat bigger than a 15 foot boston whaler skiff. Even then they only get under when its low tide.
Glenn July 26, 2012 at 09:51 PM
Art, do you make sense to anyone besides yourself?
Slippery Slope July 26, 2012 at 10:05 PM
Art, what does " Jap the Mayor" mean? Is that another racist slur by you?
Riverdweller July 26, 2012 at 10:18 PM
What about canoes and kayaks? If you own one of those are you wealthy like a power boat owner? The ramp was used by more than power boaters.
SJ July 26, 2012 at 10:47 PM
When I saw the road being paved, I thought they were improving the ramp not closing it!! WHY did they pave the road? So the house next to the ramp has a new 171 ft road in front of it,? I am sure there are many of us who would like a nice new road in front of our houses. I think there is more to this than forcing boaters to pay at Traders Cove.
Slippery Slope July 26, 2012 at 11:14 PM
@Art Sholty, the same goes for you. If you dont like our president Obama or the united States of America you can always move out. As you like to tell others to move out of Brick if they dont like the mayor. The USA is the "jewel of the world" If you dont like it or obama then move out. By the way, if you love Brick so much, why do you only live here part time? You have no right to even comment on here. You only moved here recently, you never worked here and you only live here part time.
charles sellick July 27, 2012 at 02:47 AM
Lets cut all the bull, the question is dose the mayor have the right to close a public access point to the public water way on his own without the approval of the Township Council and a discussion at an meeting open to the residents of Brick except in an emergency (which this is not). The answer is a big NO. The mayor has taken it upon himself to decide what he wants. For what ever reason the mayor decided he wanted this ramp closed without input from the towns residents. I would think that most resident do not care on way or another if the ramp is open or close. They should be concerned in the way it was done. What will be next that the mayor desides is in his veiw is best for the residents. The person who stated if you do not like it you can move well I got some news for them I pay taxes the same as them, I have a right to live here and have a right to voice my opinion the same as any one else, like it or not. This is not their private little town, Brick belongs to all of us and we all have the same rights. The mayor is wrong, the ramp should be reopened NOW, then if the mayor feels it should be closed it should be addressed at a public meeting at which time the residents who care can voice their opinion and the Town Council can deside
Glenn July 27, 2012 at 02:55 AM
Exactly, why did the road get paved to put up a guard rail in the river. Something smells fishy and it ain't the Metedeconk.
Anthony July 27, 2012 at 03:30 AM
Dear Mayor Steve, I would like my free $100 donated to the campaign of whoever runs against you. Thanks.
Riverdweller July 27, 2012 at 01:38 PM
Unaware-Did you call the police even once? I bet no. I'm sure you never took a leak on the side of the road either. One resident on the creek complains and one marina owner complains and the ramp is shut. If it was about a no wake zone the Brick Police boat would have camped out by the marina one weekend. That would have solved the problem for the summer. If it was about public urination and trash, a sign would have been posted. A port-a-jon and a trash can for the summer would have cost less than the guard rail. I considered the ramp an asset and factored it in to my decision to purchase on the creek. Re-open the ramp to all boats now.
Thomas Paine July 28, 2012 at 01:32 PM
Charles Sellick, The same logic would apply to township-owned fields. There must be complaints when the lights remain on afterhours, even when there is no game in progress. There must be boys and girls that get hit with a baseball or softball and sustain some injuries during the game. Mayor's solution: CLOSE THE FIELDS. This smacks of ridiculousness on so many levels it is not even funny.
Thomas Paine July 28, 2012 at 01:37 PM
Hey art sholty, do you have a crush on dan toth? He's a good-looking guy, but, well, never mind. You seem to have a fetish with him.
Comfortably Numb July 29, 2012 at 05:22 PM
I drove down Mantoloking road earlier today and looked down the street as I passed and saw that the metal barrier pictured above isn't there any more. There was a wooded barrier instead. Anyone know what happened? Did some angry person steal the metal one? If so I guess putting up wood is cheaper if its going to get stolen. LOL
J.JONES July 29, 2012 at 06:03 PM
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET GET BACK TO THE REAL PROBLEMS IN BRICK LIKE TAXES,PEOPLE LOSING THERE HOME..?? WHO CARES WERE THERE GOING TO LAUNCH THERE BOATS ..ARE YOU KIDDIN ME ..WAKE UP AND GET BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO...TRADERS COVE , FRENCHMANS DUMP...WASTE OF OUR MONEY ..NOT HELPING THE PROBLEMS IN TOWN ..STOP WITH THE CRAP...
Mrgrumpass July 29, 2012 at 08:33 PM
Brick Res I agree! The New Bees promised tax cuts and all sorts of wonderful things, and what did we get????????????? Almost 6 months in office and…………………………………. Nothing, Oh I’m sorry with the help of councilman Al Sharpton AH sorry Dan Toth they were able to cut Magazine Subscriptions WOW!
Jay Santos July 30, 2012 at 01:26 PM
According to the workers, the new barricade was put up in order to let kayayers thru. I'm guessing that Mayor Acropolis, after his "intensive investigation" found that kayers were OK.
Jay Santos July 30, 2012 at 01:28 PM
Also, please check the Save the Glenwood Boat Ramp on Facebook. All comments are welcome, pro and con, in this way we may find a common sense solution to this "problem". Please "like" and "share" the page.
Jay Santos July 30, 2012 at 01:47 PM
Really, and what does he do when the money from the sale of his boat runs out the cost of the boat being under $2500? What about the Mayor unilateraly closing down a resourse the People have been using for many years virtually overnight? How about the fact that the barrier is illegal, under CAFRA, a permit should have been issued before the barrier was built. Being a waterfront community, you would think Mayor Acropolis, or someone in his administration, should have known this. Is government now above the law? The issue is not only about the closing the ramp, but the process under which this occured, part of which process was illegal.
Jay Santos July 30, 2012 at 02:01 PM
Actually Art, no one knows who the perpertrator's of these acts are. The Mayor doing his job?? Since when is it the Mayor's job to violate state law? Maybe you know something about Mayor Acropolis' "investigation" into this matter and could enlighten the rest of us? Like, how many complaints were made? Were these complaint's made to the Mayor or the Police? If the Mayor, did he refer the complaint's to the Police. If so, what were the results of the investigation? Were any tickets or summons issued? Arrest's made? Who did the Mayor consult with before taking such drastic action? Why did Mayor Acropolis see fit to violate state law? We are a waterfront community, did Mayor Acropolis not know he was committing an illegal act? If not, did no one else in his adminstration know the Mayor was committing an illegal act? If not why not? There are a lot question's and few answers. The Citizens of Brick Township deserve answer's. Hopefully the Township Council, our represenatives to government, will get those answer's.
Glenn July 30, 2012 at 08:40 PM
Did the mayor's "intensive investigation" determine that kayakers don't urinate in the woods, only power boaters?
Lori Morrison July 30, 2012 at 08:45 PM
The paving and guardrail were done without any approval or knowledge to the public or council. The Mayor and his administration spent taxpayer money to do this. How can taxes go down when we have a Mayor who thinks he can do whatever he wants. It makes me wonder what else has he done and how much money was spent to do it? I would like to know how much this cost.
captainJ July 31, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Thanks to our Mayor Acrapolis...................there's not much left that's FREE in Brick!

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