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Bay Group Still Critical of Traders Cove

Implores council against "gigantic" marina slips

The executive director of Save Barnegat Bay – Brick's once-partner in the Traders Cove redevelopment project that ended up opposing the township in court – came to the Jan. 17 council meeting and thanked council members for to build a spray park at the site.

But Willie deCamp, a Lavallette resident, told council members he was against large boat slips at the site and the ability for boat owners to park near the entrance to docks on which their slips would be located.

"The most important thing going forward, to Save Barnegat Bay, is how intensive the marina portion is going to be," deCamp said. "My great caution would be that an application not be put in for a giant marina."

The issue over boat slips, as well as control over certain aspects of the redevelopment project, was the focus of a lawsuit brought by Save Barnegat Bay against the township, which was eventually dismissed by Superior Court Judge Vincent J. Grasso in 2009.

Following a joint lawsuit against a developer who wanted to build condominiums on the site, Save Barnegat Bay transferred its rights to the property to Brick when the township closed on it in December 2005. But a redeveloper's agreement  – which eventually was abandoned – was the focus of a lawsuit between the organization and the township. That lawsuit also concentrated on the number of boat slips the marina portion of the park would hold. Save Barnegat Bay was in favor of reducing the number of boat slips at the site.

"They wanted control and approval over the development process," said Mayor Stephen C. Acropolis, adding that the court battle cost Brick $15,000.

"What we don't want to see is a park that looks like one giant marina," deCamp told council members Tuesday. "I really think that keeping an eye on the size of those boat slips, and the number, will be the thing we most need to look at going forward."

In his view, deCamp said, public view of the bay could be obstructed by too many slips designed for large boats or the availability of parking near the slips where boaters could leave their cars while out on the water.

Acropolis said the marina portion of the park is part of the township's plan to generate revenue from the site, and the price of slips there will be raised to market price for a non-full-service marina once the redevelopment effort is complete.

Mrgrumpass January 20, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Re-submitting for ME! Mickey Why dosen’t Toth log on and either confirm or deny his public spanking? He has contributed on the patch before why not now????? Mickey I’m still waiting for Danny who about you?
Mickey January 20, 2012 at 05:50 PM
"mrgrumpass"......they're all selective in their darts. one makes allegations with no proof, the other claims he's being kept out of the TC loop. I'm still waiting for someone to explain why the Department Heads need to receive a stipend...when they already get a salary..... and then as to an explanation why they have township cars is one I doubt we'll ever hear.
Mickey January 20, 2012 at 09:40 PM
I have decided...you make allegations and then when asked to show proof.....you run away. difficult to appear credible, when you can't corroborate statements you profess as truth. but then I'm sure you already know that.
Art Sholty January 20, 2012 at 10:45 PM
@MICKEY.............Too bad, you are the loser. NOBODY EVER WON ANYTHING BY DEFENDING SOMETHING. Put an egg in your shoe and beat it.
Art Sholty January 20, 2012 at 10:49 PM
Mr. Grump.................The truth will hurt him politically especially when he attempts to become mayor as an Independent. He can't afford to speak to anyone.
Mickey January 20, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Art...I just asked you to back up your statements about the Councilman...you obviously can't back up what you say, so you resort to name calling..... "nobody ever won anything by defending something" interesting quote you refer to.....lol.....I'll attribute this to as you say...your advanced years....please tell me you no longer operate a motor vehicle.
Dominick Rappoccio January 21, 2012 at 12:19 AM
Mickey - He who speaks about faults in others by asking the same questions over and over again may have greater faults himself. Judging from your posts I don't think you would believe anything anyone would say. So why ask?
Mickey January 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM
someone makes countless statements/accusations about someone and when they're asked to support those claims.....the person asking for facts... is out of line ? do you normally just go about making decisions/or accepting what you hear..... without first finding out the facts ?
Dominick Rappoccio January 21, 2012 at 01:23 AM
Me - You are right I am on the planning board! Dan Toth was on the planning board and is also a member of the town council. So what does that prove? Are you insinuating that when Dan Toth was on the planning board he did what he was told? I don't hide my name like you and Mickey so thanks for letting Mickey know.
Dominick Rappoccio January 21, 2012 at 01:35 AM
Me - You questions make no sense...so no more questions please!
Dominick Rappoccio January 21, 2012 at 01:39 AM
Me - You still make no sense...Good By!
Mickey January 21, 2012 at 02:07 AM
"ME"....do you notice when you actually ask them to validate a statement or claimed fact....they just call others names or just slither away, avoiding the question ? I just hope they chose better judgement in their everyday lifes.
Dominick Rappoccio January 21, 2012 at 02:13 AM
"Mickey" and "Me" what are your real names? What do you have to hide?
Seen Enough January 21, 2012 at 03:53 AM
"ME" there goes that obsession of yours again, not bad a Stevie and a Dan all in one sentence, once again time for the meds
Dominick Rappoccio January 21, 2012 at 04:05 AM
Me - What is your name and address so I can have them stop and plow you out. Or better yet maybe plow you in.
Seen Enough January 21, 2012 at 04:05 AM
"ME" and "Mickey" you two are getting as bad as Art, give it a rest, the last thing this forum needs is more self promotion, if either of you could prove anyone is corrupt I suggest you make that call to the State Attorney General right now, they would be happy to speak with you, what do you say "Mickey" time for "ME" to validate as you say, otherwise....
Seen Enough January 21, 2012 at 04:07 AM
Dominick forgive "ME - its those photos on "ME"'s wall speaking to "ME"
BW January 21, 2012 at 04:09 AM
Mikey here is the truth about Art http://www.alfredsullivan.com/12-20-00.html
Seen Enough January 21, 2012 at 04:10 AM
"ME" are you kidding me, Pinocchio - I used that line at least 3 times in the last week, get your material!
Dominick Rappoccio January 21, 2012 at 04:25 AM
Me - I looked back at my posts...I seen no name calling. Check your own posts for name calling for name calling. Good Night!
George January 21, 2012 at 02:47 PM
Art did you get your job in Town Hall yet.
George January 21, 2012 at 02:49 PM
Art did you get your job in Town Hall yet.
Seen Enough January 21, 2012 at 05:27 PM
Looks like "Me" has been busy cleaning up, deleting posts and replies
Seen Enough January 21, 2012 at 05:31 PM
"ME" what happened to a corrupt politicians worse nightmare??
Art Sholty January 21, 2012 at 11:12 PM
@George, Yes I received everything I set out to glomb. Health was the main issue and its the CADILLAC PLAN. If you pay taxes in Brick, thanks. My Stock Market dealings are now back on track,there is a Cadillac (Elegant) in my garage along with a mortgage free dwelling and another villa on a golf course in Florida. The only thing I don't have is your trust and faith in me. Come on George be nice and stop hiding behind a false name, it is a rather insulting thing that you display being scared of retaliation. Don't be scared of me, I'm an old retired (PAID) firefighter looking for people like you to educate via the alley treatment. I'm harmless so why don't you come and meet me. I'm in the phone book, look me up chicken.
BW January 21, 2012 at 11:21 PM
Art, who is John Bukowski?
Art Sholty January 22, 2012 at 12:35 AM
@ ME.....You read the article, now you tell me. I hope this hasn't dashed your hopes of seeing me look bad. If you noticed the writer abeled him as an alcholic boozer, 1st class. He was an incompetent lawyer/mayor. I had the proper plumbing to call him out as being such so therefore I had nothing to hide such as you, young lady. Go get your mamaries checked out girly. You have been located sweetie.
BW January 22, 2012 at 12:42 AM
LMAO ok Art. Funny he threw out all the summons you wrote, and charged you with contempt of court. You had to resign or pay the price. If you had the cahonas you would have called his bluff. So I guess you dont have all the right plumbing, sweetheart!
BW January 22, 2012 at 12:44 AM
BTW if that was your attmpt to bully me or threaten me, it didnt work when Steve did it, and it certainly isnt going to work when you do it.
Betty Ann January 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM
In all the years that I lived near Trader's Cove, I have no idea where the trees and vegetation was. There were only dead boats with squatters living in some of them. The boats are gone, and for now, it is very barren except for the southern perimeter along Mantoloking Road. Probably, so most people think it looks good. I'm also with Lisa above. Who the heck had the idea to put a cabana on the old bridge?? Do they really think fishermen will be sitting under it while their lines are in the water, or will they be picking off their lures from the roof. Guess the designer is not a fisherman.

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