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Some Brick Neighborhoods 'Strongly Encouraged' to Evacuate

Coastal storm bearing down on the region

As the latest in a string of coastal storms began to bear down on Brick Township, officials were asking residents of some neighborhoods to be prepared to evacuate.

Residents in areas that are prone to flooding, which include all areas east of Old Hooper Avenue; and Princeton Avenue, east of Beaver Dam Road "are strongly encouraged to make preparations and evacuate the area prior to 8 p.m. this evening," said Brick Police Sgt. Keith Reinhard in a prepared release Wednesday afternoon.

That swath of land includes the mainland areas hardest hit by Superstorm Sandy, including Shore Acres, Baywood and the streets off St. Lawrence Boulevard.

Residents were also being encouraged to move their vehicles to higher ground, Reinhard said.

"Residents should be aware that the potential exists for moderate to major flooding in low lying areas that are normally prone to flood during high tide," he said.

High tide for the back bay is at 11:04 p.m. Wednesday night and then again at 11:17 a.m. Thursday morning. High tide for the ocean is at 6:14 p.m. Wednesday and then again at 6:27 a.m. Thursday morning.

KingNeptune December 26, 2012 at 08:42 PM
All this flooding should question the wisdom of living on a floodplain.
Slippery Slope December 26, 2012 at 08:56 PM
40 mile and hour east wind. Heavy rain, 1 to 2 inches. Full moon only 1 day away. Tonight and tomorrow mornings high tides are going to be rough. major flooding will occur.
neilnj December 26, 2012 at 09:38 PM
I live in Cherry Quay and the water came over the bulkhead last Friday. Only the 2nd time in the 10 years i have been here (Sandy being the 1st). Every storm going forward will have the potential to flood. Sandy caused a lot of sand and material to be dumped in the bay so now it take less water to flood. Kind of like sitting in the bath tub with it half full then turning the water on.. Takes a lot less water to overflow with considerably more displacement to begin with. They will need to consider dredging the bay in my opinion. Any fluid dynamics experts out there? - Capt. Neil
John Zingis December 26, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Coastal Flood Advisory for Ocean, NJ from 5 am EST, Thu., Dec. 27, 2012 until 10 am EST, Thu., Dec. 27, 2012 2:45 pm EST, Wed., Dec. 26, 2012 ... COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 5 AM TO 10 AM EST THURSDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY HAS ISSUED A COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY... THE COASTAL FLOOD WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * LOCATION... COASTAL SECTIONS OF OCEAN COUNTY. * COASTAL FLOODING... MINOR TIDAL FLOODING IS LIKELY DURING THE HIGH TIDE CYCLE ON THURSDAY MORNING. (Around 11 - 11:30 in the back bays of Brick) * TIMING... HIGH TIDE ALONG THE OCEAN IS CLOSE TO 6 A.M. AND TAKES A COUPLE OF HOURS TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH BARNEGAT BAY. * SEAS... AROUND 6 TO 10 FEET AT THE TIME OF HIGH TIDE. * IMPACTS... THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR MORE SUSCEPTIBLE ROADWAYS TO FLOOD AROUND THE TIMES OF HIGH TIDE. WAVE ACTION ALONG THE OCEAN FRONT AND RUNOFF FROM HEAVY RAIN INLAND WILL EXACERBATE THE TIDAL FLOODING ALONG BARNEGAT BAY. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY INDICATES THAT MINOR TIDAL FLOODING IS ANTICIPATED. MINOR TIDAL FLOODING OFTEN RESULTS IN SOME ROAD CLOSURES. USUALLY... THE MOST VULNERABLE ROADWAYS WILL FLOOD.
C December 26, 2012 at 10:39 PM
Oh that's exactly what I just said. I can't imagine the fear of flooding again again & again! I hope people will at least take heed & evacuate.
Missing Brick December 26, 2012 at 11:02 PM
I got the heck out this time...but, yes, exactly what Neil NJ said. I stood on my dock last week and pushed a boat hook into the harbor I live on and it was only about 1/2 as deep as it used to be before Sandy. My home had never flooded before Sandy in 35 years, but now I fear this may become a regular thing if something is not done. If the army rebuild the levies in N.O., how about FEMA or some govt agency giving a hand in keeping our homes from being swallowed up in the next storm? Dredging and building back the barrier island with more than a tin wall and some 8' posts that will surely topple in the first serious storm. (I would not be surprised if that happened tonight.)
Paul Michaelis December 27, 2012 at 12:15 AM
Have all the breaches of the barrier beaches been closed off or are there still additional inlets into Barnegat Bay? This water must be coming from somewhere because that much sand couldn't have washed into the bay although a lot could have been moved around.
Cherry Quay resident December 27, 2012 at 01:45 AM
This is a mess. I've lives here 50 years and the bay into the street 4 times , including sandy, something needs to be done.
Missingtheshore December 27, 2012 at 02:12 AM
Any updates on water levels?...concerned son in manhattan. Family house is on drum point road about .25 miles from yacht club at end of road.
ray December 27, 2012 at 02:13 AM
I had a house in baywood for 15 years. Magnificent view, no lagoon but a cove with wet lands and a view all the way to manaloking bridge. Glad I'm not there anymore. I wonder if the house is still standing, especially since out real estate agent gave us the shaft on that one. Karma is a bitch.
KC December 27, 2012 at 03:02 AM
God help us through all of this. I just can not wrap my head around this awful weather system. I just watched a film called "Gasland" and it seems if the storms don't kill us the fracking will!
clamdigger December 27, 2012 at 03:05 AM
it's time to move, that's the best thing you could possibly do. get out and get out soon, that's the best thing that can be done. if you stay you are looking at what the future holds. more grief, more worries and more wondering when it'll happen next. if you've been there 50 yrs, do you really want all that when you are in your 70's...80's?
Missing Brick December 27, 2012 at 03:06 AM
I'm not sure if all the barrier island inlets have been filled...but the largest one has been. However, I heard that the barrier island had as many as 60 breeches...so not sure all those were fixed or just the main one near Mantoloking. While I'm not there tonight, I heard from my neighbors that the roads were still passible as of 9pm or so, but high tide I think is 11 something tonight, so we'll see. Hopefully, we won't see water in our home tonight...but I wouldn't be surprised if a few low lying homes had a problem. There is just no where to "put" all this water after so much precipitation in the last couple of months. Even with 24/7 fans, I have not been able to totally dry my crawlspace since sandy and my dehumidifiers in the home fill up regularly even this week.
Spooner December 27, 2012 at 03:14 AM
The high tide mark in the back bays including Brick won't occur until tomorrow at about 11:30 AM...
Spooner December 27, 2012 at 03:17 AM
The back bays high tide tonight are not as high as they will be tomorrow...
Kim E December 27, 2012 at 03:48 AM
Missingshore, As of 10:45 there is no bay water in the street just rain water.Nor is there bay water at the club or marina. Wind not as strong.
WMS826 December 27, 2012 at 04:09 AM
What can be done about this...what do you expect the Army Corp to do for you. The dunes are gone and for how long. Now we sit here sweating out a storm that two years ago nobody would have batted an eye at. This is why we need to pull back a bit from the coast. These homes were never meant for full time living and we cannot keep rebuilding low lying areas from flooding. There are plenty of homes and land inland that can be rebuilt or renovated to suit your needs. Take your money from FEMA and move if you can.
Chief Wahoo December 27, 2012 at 05:00 AM
Does anyone still believe their property is worth what the assessment is. You were paying too much BEFORE the flooding and now it's too late. Good Luck as things are changing and changing quickly. They will never be the same again.
Missingtheshore December 27, 2012 at 07:16 AM
Thank you Kim E!! I beleive next height tide is tomorrow at 11am? I'll keep a lookout but this is good news thanks. Stay Safe.
Missing Brick December 27, 2012 at 07:20 AM
FEMA has not given me a dime. They only pay out to low income families. If you have a job that allows you to live on the water in Brick, and you bought in the last few years, I guarantee you would be outside this income level. What can the army corps do? Well, if they can rebuild a levy in New Orleans, why not rebuild the dunes here. BTW, they can dredge the displaced sand right out of the bay so it will not flood each time it rains. Move where? Is someone going to buy my house? Is FEMA going to buy me a new one? My life savings is in this house and it is not likely I could ever save to buy a new home if I abandoned this one. Where would I go anyway? I'm renting 1.5 hours away...while we try to rebuild. I, like many, am in this to the last drop... and my home was built to be several feet above where the water had ever came in the last 300 years according to the survey done when it was built 35 years ago. Don't tell me I should expect this for living on the water. I do not live on the barrier island where these type events have always happened. Things can be fixed, but the few thousand home owners can not change it. My neighborhood is creating a clean up day to remove debris from the wetlands nearby, but we can not very well dredge the bay or go across to the barrier island and rebuild the dunes. Only a government agency could even get the authority to do this...
lisa December 27, 2012 at 10:01 AM
i live in baywood and the water never came within 3-4 feet of the top of my bulkhead. All of you telling us to move and that things will never be the same again, um, 'Sandy' was a 100 year flood, if not a 500 year. Of course we are all going to be scared for a while. hell i booked a room at the Best Western on 70 last night just in case and monitered the lagoon right up til 11 with bags and dogs packed if i had to go. I do not buy the opinion that sand filled the bay and there is nowhere for water to go. our grounds are saturated, the reserve never dried up yet and last friday with the new moon and the wind coming in the right direction conditions were ripe for flooding. Last night with all that rain and wind from the north east..nothing....to be honest i was a nervous wreck last night for nothing.
Missing Brick December 27, 2012 at 10:06 AM
Glad to hear you are ok and that the flooding did not happen this time! I'm not sure what to think, but there is more sand in the lagoons where I live and considerably so. Not sure that this is a bay-wide phenomena, but still the town needs to do some investigating. I'm not moving anywhere, couldn't if I wanted to, and honestly I do not want to...I just want to make sure my restored home does not simply get flooded again because of lack of protection.
lisa December 27, 2012 at 12:35 PM
maybe i spoke too soon....i just went out to my dock and the water is about a foot from the dock and its not high tide til 11...oh well... Missing, I am SURE there is additional sand in the bay but remember the water went out fast too and took a lot with it....i am sure its all moved around...oh who knows.....i give up
WMS826 December 27, 2012 at 01:58 PM
Those Katrina days are over. You are not a poor minority in an event that Hollywood and the press want to attack a republican president over. Nor did we behave like that either. Sandy is a non event for the rest of the country now, their lives have gone on. Most jersey people resent the beach front homeowners as well given their behavior in the past in dealing with ocean access issues. So who will be your spokesman, who in Congress will want to spend the millions to pump sand up that will be gone the next time we have a storm as weak as last night. The barrier island should be bulkheaded or sea walled on the ocean side where it is weakened. Not sand replaced so homes of hedge fund managers are rebuilt using tax money. Look what doing this cost the people of LBI in t bogus lawsuit and you expect the crowd to rally. Not going to happen. Sell when you can is all I can say and everyone needs to know FEMA is a fraud.
Ed Brooks December 27, 2012 at 02:10 PM
Ed The fact remains that things have definitely changed along the shore and more frequent storms WILL bring more flooding. I think it's a given that people cannot simply move away. I know I can't! And what preparation is there against Mother Nature? I agree that rebuilding along the immediate shore would be foolish and the low lying areas as well. People, we must hope and pray that weather patterns do not take a turn for the worse....my prayers out to all that have already endured the wrath of Sandy and those who will continue to endure the frustrations of future flooding.
lisa December 27, 2012 at 02:17 PM
A barrier Island is just that, a "barrier" and i think that sea walls should be put up along 35. I too don't give a crap about those who want beach front properties. we need inland protection period...and that guy down in LBI who is sueing, he should be shot or have his house taken away by eminent domain.
neilnj December 27, 2012 at 07:31 PM
KC... GasLand is fabricated! Don't believe it! The faucet they lit on fire has nothing to do with fracking. In fact that piece was from somewhere out west where no fracking is being done within 500 miles. That said, a new movie is out starring Matt Damon depicting similar issues. The real issue is the sludge ponds, not the fracking. Check out TruthLand on YouTube, made by a real land owner in PA.
KC March 06, 2013 at 06:58 AM
The full moon is NOT until March 27th! Thankfully. You must have misread it somewhere I think. At least we have that in our favor. I hope we get rain and snow to break up the impact and give time for water absorption. Dangerous driving though. Also praying the power grid holds. See you all at the food store. :0) Stay safe all.
KC March 06, 2013 at 07:07 AM
Come gather 'round people Wherever you roam And admit that the waters Around you have grown And accept it that soon You'll be drenched to the bone If your time to you Is worth savin' Then you better start swimmin' Or you'll sink like a stone For the times they are a-changin' .Come mothers and fathers Throughout the land And don't criticize What you can't understand Your sons and your daughters Are beyond your command Your old road is Rapidly agin' Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin'. The line it is drawn The curse it is cast The slow one now Will later be fast As the present now Will later be past The order is Rapidly fadin' And the first one now Will later be last For the times they are a-changin'
Tom Cular March 06, 2013 at 11:00 AM
Capt. Neil , Dredging will not affect the tidal level of the bay, it will simply make it deeper in the dredged areas. Minus flood gates like are used in the Netherlands, the tidal level is controlled by the source, in this case it's ultimately the Atlantic Ocean.

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