.
News Alert
Armed Robbery, Possible Stabbing Reported In…

DNR verses CPR

When to refuse resuscitation

 

Here is a little appreciated fact: Patients cannot order medical care; they can only accept or refuse it.  Only a doctor can order medical treatment.  In an extreme medical situation, the doctor can offer CPR, but it is the patient’s job to accept or reject.  Any patient can refuse CPR.  This refusal is known as Do Not Resuscitate or DNR, and for obvious reasons needs to be made ahead of time. The question is, when is making the decision to be DNR appropriate?

A further definition is needed.  DNR (and its colleague, Do Not Intubate, DNI) is not the same as DNT, or Do Not Treat.  A patient, at their discretion, may receive maximal medical care, including drugs, dialysis and surgery, and still be DNR.  The DNR order in that situation is simply a line that the patient will not allow the doctors to cross.  “Do everything you can to help me, but if it fails I do not want to end my life on a machine or with some gorilla pounding on my chest.”  

On the other hand, a DNR can be a part of a hospice or palliative care program, so that all care is focused on comfort and not treatment.  It is even possible, in very unusual circumstances, to receive hospice care without being DNR.  A DNR order is like any medical decision, it can be changed if appropriate.  DNR is not the same as “pulling the plug.”

How aggressive to be in receiving medical care is a personal decision.  In order to make certain that our individual desires are followed it is critical that, as much as possible, these decisions be made ahead of time.  This avoids panic, confusion, and guilt.  In that spirit, let us review a few cases.

Ben is a 54-year-old gentleman with lung cancer, which has spread to bones and liver and is growing despite the third chemotherapy.  His doctors inform him that a fourth chemotherapy has a 5% chance of helping him and a 20% chance of killing him.  He wants to try the chemo.  His physician says, “OK Ben, we will order the chemo but if things fall apart and your body starts to fail and we cannot fix it, do you want to be put on a machine?”  Do you think Ben should make himself DNR?

Ben made himself DNR.  He survived the chemo, but the cancer progressed and he died one month later.

Ellen has lymphoma that has spread to her lungs and she is having a very hard time breathing.  She requires a complex chemotherapy, but has a 50% chance of cure.  However, she also has a 50% chance of ending up, at least for a couple weeks, on a breathing machine, until the cancer shrinks and her lungs improve.  If Ellen were your friend, what would you suggest?  What if Ellen was a 31-year-old Mom?  A 94-year-old Alzheimer’s patient?

Ellen had chemo, ended up on a respirator for a month, was cured of her lymphoma, and went home to her two-year-old daughter.

Stan is a 71-year-old man with advanced cancer at home on hospice. His wife loves him very much and wants him to be comfortable, but the idea of him dying at home frightens her.  They have agreed that when he deteriorates they will call 911 and bring him back to the hospital.  Should Stan be DNR?

Stan made himself DNR.  He died peacefully in his sleep at home and never made it to the hospital. His wife is doing OK.

Susan is a 45-year-old woman with Multiple Sclerosis who is gradually becoming paralyzed. She does not want to be in a hospital or on any sort of machine. Her husband and 17-year-old child disagree and want her to “do everything.”  Should Susan be DNR?  If she were DNR, what would you say to the family?

Not wanting to upset her family, Susan decided not to be DNR and ended her life on a respirator in the hospital.

These are common problems and make the point that life is messy and it is vital to have conversations regarding end-of-life early so that the patient, family and doctors have a basic plan in place.  This does not mean that the plan will not change or that it makes things easy, but it gives everyone a place to start and gets feelings in “the open.”  After decades of having these conversations daily I have come to the absolute conclusion that there is only one “correct” way to approach end-of-life planning; that is exactly as each patient desires.

 

As published in Sunrise Rounds.

 

By using this blog, you agree to these terms, which may change. This blog is for personal educational use only. Children under the age of 13 may not use this blog. Blog user agrees not to rely on this blog and releases Blogger from any damages arising from its use. This blog is compliant with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Please report infringements to jimsal@sunriserounds.com.

 

 

 

This post is contributed by a community member. The views expressed in this blog are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of Patch Media Corporation. Everyone is welcome to submit a post to Patch. If you'd like to post a blog, go here to get started.

Dena Aruta December 17, 2012 at 06:30 PM
Dr. Salwitz, I am in the same situation with regards to my mom. About eight months ago she was in the hospital for her congestive heart failure and was given 24 hours or less to live. Her family doctor called to say that she waas in cardiac and kidney failure and to come to the hospital basically to say goodbye. Being the only child, I had no idea what to do. Friends and I gathered at her bedside mourning our loss. Since I did not want to let her die alone, I spent the night with her. Then, I spent the next night with her at her side. Now, nine months later she is still alive and kicking. How can we make the decision for DNR when she may have a come back. I know that her heart is only functioning at 30% but she looks like she always has. How can I predict what the right time for DNR is going to be? It's a tough and heartbreaking decision because no one wants to admit that their mother is dying.
James Salwitz December 17, 2012 at 06:54 PM
There is no absolutely correct answer; each patient and family must find their own way. Just having the conversation is the way to start. We must each decide what is "quality" or meaningful life. For most of us there is a line which we would never want to cross. For me personally, although I am presently in good health, if something happened to me which would mean I would most likely be stuck on a respirator or not be able to share time with my family, than that would be the "DNR" line. The critical question to ask when trying to make this difficult decision for someone else, such as your mohther, is "what would she want?" jcs

Boards

More »
Got a question? Something on your mind? Talk to your community, directly.
Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors.What's on your mind?What's on your mind?Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell somethingPost something
See more »