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Obama & Rules For Radicals

One of Obama's mentors and there were many, was Saul Alinsky, Neo-Marxist. Our President B. Obama, helped fund the Alinsky Academy. Obama also sat on the Board of the Woods Fund next to William Ayers a member of the Weather Underground, a domestic terror organization. These were schools for the teaching of community organizing and were committed  to progressive social change. He, Obama learned how to infiltrate the system from within through the system of Emotional Manipulation and Covert Aggression.

The purpose of these schools is to create mass organizations to seize power. "Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.......this means revolution." This happened in Europe years ago. Are you too young to remember? Ask a WW2 veteran, he'll inform you of the dangers. I remembered as a kid.

An organizer does not have a fixed truth. Everyfthing to him is relative and changing. Remember his political cry or slogan, "CHANGE." We sure got change ,didn't we? An organizer is taught that change comes from power and power comes from organization. The first step is community disorganization. All change means disorganization of the old and organization of the new. Open your eyes because this is happening right now. Those of you who expect to vote for this community disorganizer had better think real hard and search your brain because we cannot let this person take control of our lives and country .

A ruthless organization caused untold misery upon millions in the 30's and 40's and if we don't practice our tried and true system of capitalism, socialism, led by a fanatic will destroy this country in seconds. Our grandchildren will pay the piper, not us, who could have stopped the crazy one. Vote your heart in November, you have been informed.

lifelonginbrick

2:01 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

Art honey seek help for your dementia. All I can say is the editiorial standards at the Patch are very very low. President Obama is not a radical he is centrist if anything. I understand that someone who has limited mental capacities such as yourself may not be able to grasp how moronic your sound. Seriously do you really think that this country is becoming some communist block when wall street is booming in the last three years??? CEOs are making record incomes - pretty weird since according to you we live in a socialist state. You sir seem to be suffering from "angry Fox geezer syndrom" (google it you will come up with 672,000 hits) where elderly people turn on Fox news in the morning and just let is blare on all day and unable to understand the difference between actual news and propaganda become hysterical and extremly misinformed. Your weird paranoid ramblings are evidence of that.

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Art Sholty

8:57 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@ Lifelongin brick,
With my lifelong advantage over folks like yourself I can remember the happenings of long ago. Back in the 30's and 40's a SOCALIST was greeted with hope that he was going to get a certain nation back working...........well he did but for another reason and this was the start of WW2. How did that nation make out and what were the consequences to mankind all over this world? Hitler was a SOCALIST and so is OBAMA. Try re-starting that empty space between your ears because you sure are stupid, young lady.

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lifelonginbrick

7:52 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

Art, please give an example of how President Obama is a socialist? Just one. Do you even know what that word means? You do know that certain aspects of our society and govenment are socialist like such has our highway system, Medicare, the military. Do you want to get rid of that? Also chew on this. During the hight of prosperity in the 50's more Americans beloned to Unions than ever before and if you chart the decline of the American middleclass income it has fallen over the years and the same rate that union membership has fallen. Currently we are giving tax breaks to companies that have been offshoring jobs - doesn't make sense. The Obama admin tried to cut that nonsense off but the republicans blocked and fought to keep those tax breaks. Whose side is the GOP on? Not the American people thats for damn sure.

JHill

4:44 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

What does this article even mean?
I just want my taxes to go down but I know neither of the 2 clowns running for office are going to do that.

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lifelonginbrick

4:53 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

The article is the nonsense ramblings of an old man and basically just hate and rumor. I hate to break this to you but if you care about being fiscally responsible then you should realize that taxes should NOT go down. We have two wars to pay off and never before in US history have we gone to war AND lowered taxes and cut off revenue but that is exactly what the baby brains of Bush and Co. did. Keeping the Bush tax cuts in place just further deepend the hole. Nope time to pay the piper though I'm sure politicans on both sides of the spectrum will promise tax cuts the cold truth is we already HAVE the lowest taxes for the past 70 years. You need to focus on something else and forget the bumper sticker thinking. We need to bring innovation and educational standards back so this country can have a future.

resofbrick70

5:26 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

@ Life long brick... I guess when you see something so disturbing that People actually support Obama it may frassel them alot... But you got the point & new what it meant.. & honeslty quite true.... .& maybe that is just ( on another topic) the product & level of the education that is in Brick... Good thing my taxes go up every yr to support our childrens education ( Iam sorry... Iam mean make sure the Adm& Supr gets their 3 figure salaries)...

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lifelonginbrick

7:44 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

I support President Obama even though I don't agree with everything he has done he is lighyears better than anything the GOP has puked up. Romney is a creature that is incapable of telling the truth ... about anything and seems to lack a basic moral core belief system. I don't think he is that smart but rather an entitiled rich kid who seems to think it's just "his turn" to be in the white house. I shudder to think of him representing us on the world stage. My father in law was a Republican his whole life, he was a decorated war veteren and I thank god he didn't live long enough to see what has become of his party. The GOP has gone off the rails. In Michigan, for example, they just passed a dragonian anti-abortion law and they did it by supressing any opposition voice from speaking out on the floor and voting behind closed doors. Sorry but that is what dictators do. That is the new GOP.

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lifelonginbrick

7:46 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

PS: Your school taxes are local. The president has nothing to do with them. However the chubby bully Gov we have did, through his incompentence, short our state out of 400 million dollars in school aid that would have helped keep local taxes down. Just saying.

My Two Cents Worth

5:08 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@lifelonginbrick --- No one is stopping YOU from paying more taxes.
There is waste, theft, mismanagement --do you know where your tax dollars go?
And as for the "nonsense ramblings of an old man", you may want to heed the
warning - this country is in serious danger. BTW, what's wrong with old men?

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lifelonginbrick

7:35 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

sigh...you missed the point of my post. If you have a problem with waste, theft & mismanagement (and who doesn't) then hold those in office accountable. However if we as a nation just continue to ignore that we must pay for the services we want and mindlessly vote for whatever crook promises lower and lower taxes we will be a 3rd country banana republic in no time. We have two wars to pay for, a crumbling infrastructure and are children are ranked 27th in science. It is a fact that taxes are already the lowest they have been (especially for the wealthy) in 70 years. How much lower do you want? No taxes? Just continue Bush's plan of cutting them to satisfy the one issue voters but then borrow from China? It's not a fiscally sound way to run a country. McConnell recently admitted the Bush tax cuts did not create jobs or do any good however he still wants to keep them in place. Your right the country is in trouble we just disagree about the problem.

Just Saying

8:39 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@militant....There is nothing wrong or strange about people believing and hoping in a supreme being, or beings, that inhabit another dimension other than our own, and who is the all mighty creator of life in the universe.

It is actually no more far fetched or impossible than having a bunch of gases floating around an empty space and then combining and exploding into trillions of stars and planets and asteroids and other celestrial matter.

Where did the empty space come from, where did the gases originate, how did they combine and why did they explode? Most inexplicable is how and why is our earth the only one of these trillions of heavenly bodies, the only one that we know of so far, that is capable of sustaining life.

Religion and the science of the big bang are both theories. Not proven facts with concrete evidence. They are hopes and theories of man, to try and understand the meaning of life and how and why we are all here together.

Think for a moment...if there were no almighty supreme being up in heaven to worship and obey, then the supreme beings would be the political leaders who enslave and control the people here on earth that we would have to worship and obey..

So lets try and get along, shall we?.

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MILITANT ANTI-THEIST

9:52 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@justsaying... the big difference is being an atheist harms nobody. the difference of religious beliefs certainly does and that can't be argued. i have to hear politicians say god bless america, god is on our money, in the pledge and so on... as an atheist, i shouldn't be subjected to it. if someone believes in the big bang, they don't pray to the big bang man or live a life dedicated to it unlike religion, so your comparison is somewhat a stretch(but i respect your effort).

I have a question for you, when an american says, "god bless our troops" and a person in a country we are at war with says the same... who does god pick to let live? if you look closedly at religion, it is total bs.

my friend just told me a story about someone he knows was hit by a drunk driver while he was riding a motorcycle. he said thank god there was a cop right behind him after it happened. i then asked him, so god put the cop there... now tell me who put the drunk driver there? any thoughts on this?

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Just Saying

4:13 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@militant liberal anti-theist.......Stalin, Kruschev, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jong IL, Castro, and every other communist dictator were and are avowed atheists. They have collectively enslaved tens of milions of innocent men, women and children, killed tens of millions of others and starved tens of millions more. I will admit that many many people have been killed in senseless wars in the name of Christianity such as the Crusades, but there is one clear fact that you cannot dispell or overlook. For the past 1000 years, especially true for the last 300 years, Christianity and its TRUE believers, have done more to free the world, teach the world, feed the hungry and cure the sick, than any other religion including atheism. Christianity has built more hospitals, schools and housing for the poor in this country and around the world than any other entity or religion., usually for free and with volunteers.

I will take Mother Theresa and her Christian radicals over Joseph Stalin, Mao and their atheist types , and Osama Bin Laden and the Saudi, middle eastern Islamist types any day of the week.

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lifelonginbrick

7:57 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

Religion and science differ on one very very important point. Science requires critical thinking and examination and is supported by proof and observation it is allowed to evolve (no pun intended) and be questioned. Reliigon is based on blind faith and superstition - it allows no leeway for being questioned no matter how ridiculious or harmful. I don't have a problem with anyone worshipping their "sky god" of choice but have a big problem when they seek to base our laws on such silliness. Seperation of Church and State is the BEST thing our founders did.

follow the money

10:37 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@ militant .... I will pray for you , so sad that you seem to be such a lost soul, hopfully with a little faith you will understand the miracles of God. I had 2 cousins & A brother Fighting in Iraq all came home safe & the First thing we all said was THANK GOD, after combat time, All all where account for after being shot at my Brother who is staff Srg & ( also aNJ HS history teacher who happen to have ex students in his company) ALWAYS thanked GOD!! ( & Now another younger colusin who is in HLS, Navy seal preparing for Afgainatain) Its bez of the lack of faith & the evil in this world of non believes that the Devil can take power very easy over them.. & If you really Dont like the idea PLEASE my all means Go anywhere in the middle east & see how you fair, you would not be allowed to live unless you practiced the relgion they told you to, While some here in the US my disagree with ppl choice they are not killed over it.. We just pray for the Non-believes & those that lack faith or even understanding of religion.. YOU NEED to Be greatful to our military... & support them, if it wasnt for them you Wouldnt be allowed to be a athesit...

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MILITANT ANTI-THEIST

11:21 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@followthemoney... if there was less religion, there would be less need for military. no religion, no 911... no war in iraq, pretty simple. I do appreciate the military for the record.

how do you make sense of everyone else that's in the military or has family in the military that believes in the invisible man in the sky just like you do, that lost their life or a family member? the devil... yet another fairytale....

see if you can wrap your brain around this, get your thesaurus out.....

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

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Art Sholty

11:58 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@Follow the $$$$$
Well put money, but you are conversing with an idiot. People like this escapee should never be given the opportunity of spreading their vile thoughts around even though it is OK via the First Ammendment. This person, I use it with tongue in cheek, is just like Obama. They are Passive Aggressive and will turn your words around to suit their thoughts. They practice this in order to not forget it because of a small unused brain. Ask him about the Chaplins who gave up their life jackets to those without, in WW2. Would he have done this? I think not. I'd like to meet him but he hides behind his real name. I would not harm him even at 81 years of age.
Art Sholty.....Korean Vet.

GOD bless AMERICA!

11:39 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

The sin of pride keeps people from believing in God. Humanity does not want to admit that there is something or someone greater than human beings in the universe. People want to be the master of their own fate, captain of their own salvation. The Bible speaks of the pride of man, & if you had faith & knowledge of relgion you would understand... You Would even have the answers & understanding of the questioned you ask... YOU WILL FIND THE answer in Jesus.. NOT always the ones you are looking for or want, but With Faith Jesus will ALWAYS guide you to the answer.... I too, will pray for you & other non believes

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MILITANT ANTI-THEIST

11:45 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

jesus? that's the biggest fairytale of them all...
don't pray for me, i don't want or need you too.... your prayers are useless

i guess all the orthodox jews are going to "hell" since they denounce jesus?
but wait, didn't jesus say to embrace your enemies... please explain how that works

your bs comic book called the bible should be used for toilet paper.......
the world would be safer and healthier without religion.

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GOD bless AMERICA!

11:56 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

Pride is the first sin mentioned in a list of things that God hates. It was the sin of pride that caused Lucifer to rebel against God and be cast out of heaven. It was pride that caused Cain to bring an offering of his own works to the Lord instead of the one God had commanded. From the beginning of time, pride has kept people from coming to God..... & Jewish people are not anti relgion, they have faith...

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GOD bless AMERICA!

11:57 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God (Matthew 22:29).

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Art Sholty

12:04 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@ GOD BLESS AMERICA
Go get I'm America.
Another one on the side of FAITH. Keep 'em coming.

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Gene

8:57 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

GOD bless AMERICA!..... You speak the truth. Also true is that the Yankees swept the Mets. This has nothing to do with our president who is a Christian family man who wants to include the needy while he governs us all.

Just Saying

4:12 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@militant liberal anti-theist.......Stalin, Kruschev, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jong IL, Castro, and every other communist dictator were and are avowed atheists. They have collectively enslaved tens of milions of innocent men, women and children, killed tens of millions of others and starved tens of millions more. I will admit that many many people have been killed in senseless wars in the name of Christianity such as the Crusades, but there is one clear fact that you cannot dispell or overlook. For the past 1000 years, especially true for the last 300 years, Christianity and its TRUE believers, have done more to free the world, teach the world, feed the hungry and cure the sick, than any other religion including atheism. Christianity has built more hospitals, schools and housing for the poor in this country and around the world than any other entity or religion., usually for free and with volunteers.

I will take Mother Theresa and her Christian radicals over Joseph Stalin, Mao and their atheist types , and Osama Bin Laden and the Saudi, middle eastern Islamist types any day of the week.

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jzemom

6:40 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@ just saying..... " can I get a Amen" to that !!

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Ronnie

9:54 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012

@Militant...too bad they got to you first. Don't think you were born that way.
You have been robbed of a very valuable part of life. And since you don't have
a God to worship, you will worship a man, Obama, blindly, and be
easily manipulated. You will follow the pied piper to your own destruction.

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Gene

3:03 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

I don't see anyone worshiping a man here. Fair rules and policies for all is what is needed. This is not a church,temple,mosque,or your living room. Government is also not a business, corporations are not people(unless your Mitt Romney and the other greedy 1% who have their sheep Fox listeners) ,and money is not speech.

Gene

10:22 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012

Art Shorty.... First of all Hitler was not a Socialist. Stalin was a Socialist. Hitler fought on the same side as the fascist Mussolini. Do you even know what a fascist is? The fascists put people in power who represented corporate interests instead of the people of the area. This is like our tea bagger politicions and Mitt Romney(the Mormon bishop)who take big money from undisclosed super pacs,that represent domestic,multi-national,and even foreign corporations to influence our elections. More money at the top and less middle class jobs because of people like you,who listen to sound bites from Fox Noise.
As far as taxes, Obama only wants to raise taxes on any money earned over $1M,to the level that Bill Clinton had when we had a surplus.

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Art Sholty

9:41 am on Sunday, June 10, 2012

Good morning Gen
Does the name National Socialist German Workers Party ring a bell? Who was the leader of this NAZI Party? If it was Hitler then he must have been a Socialist, he also could have been a Fascist but no doubt about him being a Socialist. Do we agree that Obama is a Socialist? He will, if elected bring this country down and he's starting now. Be aware.

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lifelonginbrick

8:31 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

Art you keep saying Obama is a socialist but still fail to give even one simple example of how he is a socialist? Why is that? What makes a person write comment after comment saying such things but unable to give EVEN ONE F'ING EXAMPLE? Your not a very honest person are you?

Gene

10:53 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012

For those who are interested in politics, a 2nd study from Fairleigh Dickinson came out in May to again show that those who watch Fox 'so called' News were less informed than those who watched no news at all. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/university-study-determines-fox-news-has-least-informed-national-audience-based-on-these-questions/ Fox(the Republican channel)was the idea of Roger Ailes and Richard Nixon back in the 70's http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/richard-nixon-and-roger-ailes-1970s-plan-to-put-the-gop-on-tv/2011/07/01/AG1W7XtH_blog.html and together with Reaganomics has helped to create the demise of the middle class while the rich get richer. Meanwhile people like Mitt Romney can pay a lower percent on his taxes and store some of his money TAX FREE offshore.

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disgusted homeowner

6:36 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

Like Romney, maybe i run and open a swiss bank account!!!!!!!! Then I too can pay less taxes.......LOL

My Two Cents Worth

8:44 am on Sunday, June 10, 2012

@Gene

Taken from Cincinnati.com
Letters to the Editor
Reagan, Gingrich helped create surplus

02/10/12 at 11:50am
Written by Letters Editor

Amity Shlaes presented a simple but very significant fact in her commentary, “How tax cuts for rich can raise revenues” (Feb. 8). A review of the Coolidge, Kennedy, Reagan, and Bush tax cuts shows substantial increases in tax revenue in every case. The Laffer curve, attributed to economist Arthur Laffer, illustrates why reductions in tax rates for the wealthy increase the revenue from the wealthy. In addition a reduction in tax rates for the wealthy causes increases in economic activity, and the resulting increase in gross domestic product further increases revenue at all income levels. We need more people in government with the insight of Andrew Mellon.

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lifelonginbrick

8:26 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

The laffer curve has been discredited years ago where have you been???
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1692027,00.html
Even a lot of repubs no longer pretend to push that failed theory with a straight face. You need to keep up. It's not 1985 anymore. We have already seen what Reaganomics has done. It's a failed policy for every person in this country except the top 1% - just as Reagan intended. You see Reagan wanted to carve out an Ameican aristocracy class and keep all the rest of us serfs beaten and cowed down.

My Two Cents Worth

9:02 am on Sunday, June 10, 2012

@Gene (continued)
The current idea of the administration that the wealthy should be faced with higher tax rates is not only unfair but is profoundly stupid. History clearly shows that it will reduce total revenue and hurt the economy. As Shlaes mentioned, reductions in total federal expenditures was also an important part of the Mellon/Coolidge economy. Unfortunately more recent tax rate cuts have not been accompanied by such reductions. For example congress essentially doubled federal expenditures during the Reagan administration resulting in no net reduction in the federal deficit. It took a Republican House with Newt Gingrich to finally force enough fiscal responsibility on the government to create a couple of years of budget surpluses. Clinton should take no credit for this. It was made possible by Reagan and Gingrich.

Dan Rundell

Monroe

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Gene

10:37 pm on Sunday, June 10, 2012

2 cents....
Amity Shlaes is a right wing hack that is pushing an agenda. For those who need more information ... http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/amity-shlaes-right-wing-hack
This is the kind of crap obfuscation that conservative think tanks try to push on people. I bet the greedy 1% who are trying to control this country at our expense are loving this type of misinformation. Did ALEC have anything to do with this backward information?

Gene

11:11 pm on Sunday, June 10, 2012

Art Sholty..... Make up your mind. A socialist is from the left ,a fascist is from the right.
Give me 1 example of where Obama is a socialist!
During the 50's whem Ike was president, we built roads and bridges. The top tax rate was 91%. That was one of the most prosperous times for our country. By todays Republican definition through someone like you,he would be a communist.From http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERnazi.htm
Hitler believed that the Jews were involved with Communists in a joint conspiracy to take over the world. Like Henry Ford, Hitler claimed that 75% of all Communists were Jews. Hitler argued that the combination of Jews and Marxists had already been successful in Russia and now threatened the rest of Europe. He argued that the communist revolution was an act of revenge that attempted to disguise the inferiority of the Jews
If you read the rest of it,you will see that your myopic view of Pres.Obama is as misguided as your views of this Nazi leader(that I an not defending) who was anything but a socialist. Too much Faux Noise in your blogs.

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Mrgrumpass

7:37 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

OBAMA CARE! Have you been napping?

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lifelonginbrick

8:23 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

The ACA (Obama care) is nothing but a rehash of the REPUBLICAN PLAN from the 90s. It's based on health care from PRIVATE COMPANIES. If it was socialist then the doctors, hospitals, etc would have to be totally government employees. They are not. Mrgrumpass you are an example of our failed educational system. I suppose you think car insurance is a communist/socialist plot because it's the law that every driver have it. It's simple EVERYONE NEEDS AND USES HEALTH CARE therefor EVERYONE MUST PAY INTO AND HAVE INSURANCE. If you have insurance then YOU ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR THE UNINSURED IN THE FORM OF HIGH PREMIUMS. You have some problem with making the uninsured chip in??

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Just Saying

9:06 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

lifelong.....Obama is a socialist, as are most democrats and many so called moderate republicans. The only capitalism these folks believe in is for themselves and their friends.
As far as car insurance, you dont have to buy car insurance if you dont have a car. There is no federal control of car insurance. It is regulated by each state.
Obamacare forces everyone to be federally mandated to have health insurance. Not everyone uses the health care system either. Some people never go to the dr. That is their business. Some people pay cash, they dont need insurance. The true reason that healthcare system is broke is that the government forces hospitals to treat patients for free. That is socialism. If someone takes a risk and doesnt buy health ins. then the hospital should be able to take them to court in a lawsuit to recoup their loss. The government has no business forcing hospitals to treat all patients unless the government plans on picking up the tab.
Everyone eats, should restaurants and grocery stores be forced to feed everyone?
Everyone needs a place to sleep, should hotels be forced to accept people with no money?

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Just Saying

9:06 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

......When 5 year olds and 90 year olds and every single person in America is forced to buy car insurance by the feds, then you can compare it to Obama care.
If the federal government wanted everyone to be insured then they should insure the very poor for free and let working people buy into medicair at any age. I could agree with a national health insurce plan available to all, but not if it is forced.

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lifelonginbrick

9:44 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

Justsaying.... "Obama is a socialist, as are most democrats and many so called moderate republicans" that is the most stupid statement on this thread. Really. Everyone at some point in their lives uses health care. We currently have millions of people for whom affordable health care is out of reach due to a very broken system. In fact we are ranked 34TH in the world in terms of quality health care. This is shameful. It's amusing and pathetic how so-called conservatives are the biggest dead beats. Most Red states suck more money out of the government than they contribute. However, I can't insult conservatives by lumping you in with them for even they understood that we can't call ourselves a moral country by allowing people to just die in the streets. You seem to have the intelligence and maturity level of a very selfish spoiled little child. Sadly I bet your one of the mindless sheep that will chant USA USA USA at the drop of the hat. Hmmm do you really think a country that calls itself the number one country in the world could have a system where a child can just in front of a hospital without treatment? Sorry but as long as we continue to sqander our resources on a bloated militiary larger than all of Europe combined then we can damn well afford a basic level of health care.

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lifelonginbrick

10:06 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

Justsaying: "When 5 year olds and 90 year olds and every single person in America is forced to buy car insurance by the feds.." For the love of god NO ONE IS BEING FORCED TO BUY HEALTH INSURANCE. You can still choose to be an uninsured dead beat but you will not qualify for any tax credits and may incure a small tax penality thats it. No criminal charges or anything else. You really need to get your news from somewhere other than Fox, really for your own sake. If you still want to show up in the emergency room for every sniffle and force the cost on those of us with insurance guess what? you still can but come tax time you will not be getting a tax credit and may have to pay a small tax penality for your irresponsibilty.

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Just Saying

10:16 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

@lifelong... guess you lost the argument. Typical liberal results to intolerant name calling when their argument is a lost cause.

Liberal democrats, like yourself, want and expect everything given to them for free by the government.

Libertarian Americans, like myself, only want and expect what we work for and earn for ourselves.

I can tell that you are like the occupy protesters that act tough until the cops hand cuff them and then they start to scream and cry for their mommies because the handcuffs are too tight.

Have a nice life. You are not worth my time.

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lifelonginbrick

1:26 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

Justsaying, Libertarian Americans would be very happy in Somalia. Again you seem to have a child like view that you are an island unto yourselves and don't want to contribute to the society and country you probably claim to love. Liberals have no problem paying for services we want and in fact we do far more than "conservatives". That is why the red states drain more money from the government than they pay in unlike blue states. You can't seem to debate on the facts. Our private insurance based health care system is more expensive and less effective than most other countries (34 out rank us). Why would anyone want to cling to a system that is more expensive and worse??? I think today's conservative and so-called libertarians are very math challanged.

REALNJShore

9:19 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

Barack Obama was, in fact, a member of the socialist New Party in the 1990s and sought its endorsement for the Illinois senate–contrary to the misrepresentations of Obama’s presidential campaign in 2008, and in spite of the efforts of Politico’s Ben Smith to quash the story. Stanley Kurtz, author of Radical-in-Chief: Barack Obama and the Untold Story of American Socialism (2010), has released new “smoking gun” evidence at National Review Online. It is evidence that the mainstream media can no longer ignore–and Obama can no longer deny

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lifelonginbrick

1:16 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

You know the only "news" sources you CAN find this is the tin foil hat super extreme right wing sites. No credible news sources and the reason why is because the "New Party" is not a socialist party, never was, in fact it was called the New Democrats party. New Democrats, in the politics of the United States, are an ideologically centrist faction within the Democratic Party that emerged after the victory of Republican George H. W. Bush in the 1988 presidential election. They are identified with centrist social/cultural/pluralist positions and neoliberal fiscal values.They are represented by organizations such as the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), the New Democrat Network, and the Senate and House New Democrat Coalitions. Not the big smoking gun radical party you think. You really are grasping at straws.

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Mrgrumpass

1:40 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

Socialized medicine is part of the socialist mantra, you are definitely an Obama Zombie Lifelong, all he ash succeeded in doing other that destroying the US economy is scam week minded liberals into voting him in office, but other than that he is an amateur at all that he has done, all he has done is blame others for his impotent running of the nation, BHO may not be a socialist, Liberal, or democrat put he is definitely a loser

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Gene

6:11 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

RealNJSHORE.... Change the channel, take a deep breath, stop with the right wing talking points, look at where your myths are coming from and ask yourself, how can Obama be a socialist when the stock market came all the way back and corporations have record profits?
Republicans can't win on philosophy or deeds, so they spread this fear mongering information to divide and conquer people like you and I.

Just Saying

10:05 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

With a liberal yell, they cried MORE,MORE,MORE

With a liberal yell, they cried MORE, MORE, MORE......more more more

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Just Saying

10:22 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

@ Art Sholty....you are a kind and considerate, rational human being compared to Mititan anti, and lifelong and some of these other disgusting name calling liberals.

God Bless you Art Sholty

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lifelonginbrick

1:28 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

LOL aren't you name calling too?

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Art Sholty

8:08 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

Hi Just Saying, Thanks for trhe compliment. I try to be fair but most of the bone heads are just out for themselves and what they can get printed. Please remember one thing, Obama is the poison of our great nation and if re-elected he will do exactly what George Soros commands. Obama is the puppet and Sor os the puppet master. He will ruin America in a heartbeat. He wants to rule the world. Look up the following: Emotional manipulation and hook it up with Community organizer, this is Obama, a Community DISORGANIZER.

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Gene

6:18 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

Just Saying... Your name speaks for itself! Maybe you should Just Listen,. Try getting away from corporate media, and also the Republican channel(Fox noise). Listen more and then use some of your intellegence .

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Gene

6:31 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

Mrgrumpas..... You need to eat a can of whoopass!(no hostile intent) Maybe then you'll come out of the Twilight Zone. I think I met your twin, Mrangryoldwhitemaleas..

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Gene

8:44 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

Art Shollty..... Look up Leverage Buyouts, Vulture Capitalism, and( maybe?) credit laundering,YOU MAY SEE ROMNEY'S PICTURE THERE. George Soros? That's all you have? How about the fascist leaning Supreme Court that gave us the God awful Citizens United ruling. There are now a record number of Republican politicions who are getting SUPERPAC money from corporate interests without disclosure. This includes foreign corporations. Yeah , Mitt Romney knows how to run a business(RIGHT INTO THE GROUND). Corporations are NOT people 'my friend' and money is not speech. Also government is not a business BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO GO BANKRUPT.!!!! The congress has already done a lousy job of tampering with our credit rating. Throw those lousy tea bag bums out ASAP.

Seen Enough

6:31 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

Obama was elected for one reason, to make Jimmy Carter look intelligent! It took nearly 30 years for the Democrats to find someone with the right talent and qualifications to accomplish this. Obama, job well done.

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Gene

6:47 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

Seen enough..... That gets a big DUH!!!! on the 'W' meter

brick71m

7:05 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

Just a question.... why do we have black history MONTH, UNF, schools off for Jewish holidays ( even in communties that have very small % of jewish families) have to allow a muslim to have their freedoms & if they want to wear the head peaces ( what ever there called ) we have to allow it, BUT school are banning " God Bless the USA" from schools, have meat served during lent ( when the majority of famlies are catholic) It just seems (& this is not a racist remark its just the truth) that White middle age married catholic people hae little to say about anymore & that OUR RIGHTS are being taken away ... we are expected to be tolorent of everyone else, If we wanted to come together & have a all white pride parade we would be called Racist,.....

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lifelonginbrick

7:24 am on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

Every F'ing day is white middle aged man day in this country. Really stop talking crap. What school here has off Jewish holidays?? Black history month isn't an officail bank holiday or anything it's just a month set aside for black culture and history, like women's history month and the reason is because these are two groups usually left out of our of history books. As for wanting your religion and catholic nonsense forced on all school children? Not going to happen. We have a seperation between church and state and public schools are part of the state. This is what your religious nuts just don't get - if it's against your religion to eat meat on Friday then DON'T EAT MEAT - you don't have the right to force EVERYONE TO ADHERE TO YOUR RELIGION. Stop your moronic persecution complex NO ONE IS TAKING YOUR RIGHTS AWAY AND YOU KNOW IT.

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Jerzymom

9:29 am on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Just to answer your question,... brick public schools are off for Jewish holidays,So holidays only count if the banks are closed?? When did that become the standard?? Let me explain something in the simplist terms for you. White married working people Support those who are not... Tied of seeing people NOT getting married to their babies daddy Just so they can collect a check & call out poor while there kids have 200$ sneakers on get food stamps, free school lunch , free health care & the list goes on, & it just shows their children the idea of " dont worry someone else will pay for it mentalitiy" Tired of seeing grown healthy men that are just to lazy to find a job find their way to collected SSI Checks, say what ever you want, But there is no UNITED WHITE FUND for college, there is no discounts for going to work every day, there is no Freeies for us that are stuggling to do whats right, BUT we are expected ( & forced by taxes coming out of our PAYCHECKS) to pay for those who are not doing for themselves... TIRED of seeing People who get all the freebies with nicer cars then those WHO EARNED their money.... & Oh yeah almost forgot the lovely tattooes that they seem to be able to afford. I guess it will always be .... The takers will just keep taking

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Jerzymom

9:34 am on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

& for those that do not eat meat on friday will not, however it is served as a main course during lent However, schools now have to have glenten free & Kosher lunches avlb. my Child who has seen alot of cancer in his live can not wear a t-shirt support the awareness of it BUT If he was Muslim would be allowed to wear that rag on his head... tired of always needed to worry about the being P.C.

Gene

8:17 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

Hey Mr. Grumpass and Just Saying..... You are prime examples of low information voters. Libertarian? ME ME ME? You must have your head in dark funky place if you think that you and your family will never get sick. Most working people are tired of paying for deadbeats and wannabe invincibles who use the health system for free care at our expense. Paying premiums... put up or shut up when you get sick and then cry the loudest.

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Gene

8:34 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

lifeloginbrick.... Couldn't have said it better! Some of the other backward people on this blog really put the Kentucky in Brick. I'll bet some were homeschooled by watching Faux News all day. Dueling banjos also comes to mind.

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lifelonginbrick

7:43 am on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

It really is scary how stupid people are in this country. We have a totally broken health care system 40-50 million people are uninsured and have become financially ruined by out of control costs. Americans pay way way more for health care and don't even get the best quality compared to about 34 other nations. Every other civilized nation has understood that the health of it's citizens should not be subject to a for-profit system as it effects their economy and security. President Obama ran on trying to fix our retarded system and was the only president in decades to actually try and do something and yet the brainless morons like some of the people on this thread think dying in the streets, being turned down for pre-existing conditions, being thrown off policys and paying more than any other country for low quality care eqates to "freedom". I personally would prefer single payer or medica for all system as it would be more cost/results effective. But ACR is a baby step in the right direction.

Art Sholty

4:07 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

Hey Barry
I will only comment once to you. You should keep your mind locked up somewhere because its a shame letting it loose out for the public to see, hear and read. Why do you comment about others whom you say have low opinions, when you also say that you are equal to them? Try comopsing a blog, submit it and we will give you a score. Are you up to the challenge? Come on now, don't be afraid, I'll check your spelling. Finally tell the folks why you hate me. I swear I won't let the secret out.

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Brickdragon

11:08 am on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Why is it that anyone that doesnt like or support Obama makes them a racist? that weird becauses alot of black people that I know voted for him, JUSt because he is black, That to me seems to racist..... just sayin' & remember he only won by 53% lets see what happpens when he starts cutting Gvmt. support...

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Brickdragon

11:11 am on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

@ Jerzymom, spoke the truth, That alot of people think but wont say becauses its not politically correct & will be call a RACIST for saying the truth

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Just Saying

3:24 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Why does the Patch let liberal posters call other posters jack ass and scum bag? Is it because the Patch is owned by liberal AOL and the Huffington post? Big Obama supporters.

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Daniel Nee

3:34 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

JS -- Come on. As a regular poster here, you know better. Had you actually been as outraged by the name calling as you say, perhaps you would have e-mailed me personally and alerted me to it. But you did not. Instead, you posted this unfair comment.

For what it's worth, I've deleted some of the offending posts in here. Next time, e-mail me and I'll do it sooner. And think about this -- if this site was as liberal as you say, why would this blog post not only be allowed, but featured on the home page?

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Just Saying

10:21 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Thanks Dan. I never thought to email you but I did flag these posts several times and nothing happened. I could care less if every poster on here was a liberal, but there is no need to call people dirty names for stating their opinions. I can write some harsh criticisms myself sometimes, but I would never use bad language I have always thought of the patch as fair and balanced but I had to question why these vile posts were allowed to go on.

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Just Saying

10:26 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Dan, it also is not a good idea to let posters mock and ridicule other readers religions and religous beliefs. Question them yes, mock and insult them, no.

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Daniel Nee

2:42 am on Thursday, June 14, 2012

I agree. The best bet is to drop me an e-mail if you see something out of line.

brickmom3

5:34 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE... Will be very scary when that all chances ... realize that Obama is doing everything in his power to change that...& if things keep going the way they are, our freedoms ( as they do more & more every year) will be taken away... We have a wonderful country where we can have diffrent of opnions diffrent views, however there is no need for name calling, People will either understand your view or not Maybe they will respect it & disagree what you are saying, its the people on eitherside that will not opened their minds that provents positive progress & improvment things accross the board I think everyone wants the same things its closed minds that often stop it...

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Gene

3:40 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012

Under Mitt Romney it will be LAND OF THE 1%, HOME OF THE CORPORATIONS. No name calling here, just stating the facts. This guy doesn't think we should hire teachers,cops, and firemen. He backs the Paul Ryan budget, which will replace medicare as we know it with a voucher(good luck if you get sick). He wants to get rid of a health care plan that he started(he is on both sides of many issues). I'd be happy to debate someone on the positives of Obamacare anytime. If you lose it(thanks to the fascist leaning Supreme Ct)you may not get insurance for a pre-existing condition,your kids will not be covered on your plan if they are older than 22,and you will pay more for prescriptions under medicare part d. Those of you able bodied in your 20's and 30's who would rather spend your money on things other than health care, the mandate will allow people like me to pay less for premiums because I won't have to pay for you to get free emergency room visits.

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Gene

4:13 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012

As far as President Obama..... How many times have you heard ignorant people use the N word when referring to him? Get a grip, how can anyone say that there's no bigotry there? Birth Certificate?They can't come up with specifics,so they GENERALIZE with dumb Fox News false talking points. When that is debunked, they listen to sociopaths like Trump. Let me get this straight.. N word,commie,socialist,Nazi, Kenyan,Muslim,radical. Any other DUMB comments? I'm sure there's plenty of low information people out there.
Take away freedoms? If Mitt Romney(CORPORATE AMERICA) gets elected, you can say goodby to fair wages,holidays. weekends, safety regulations, healthcare,child labor laws, medicare as we know it, clean air and water,affordable student loans, woman's rights for health and fair wages,etc
Some of you can generalize on myths, and excuses for not being bigots. I'd rather hear facts

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more then UKnow

8:33 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

I Dont think I Ever hear anyone use the "N" word when ref to Obama, I have however heard of blk people just voting for him becauses they wanted to see a blk man in office, had nothing to do with anything else, other then them wanted to vote him in to see the 1st blk Prez.

BrickMom3

4:14 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012

@ gene while Iam not what you would call a Romney supporter, we cant keep going down the same road we are on, I dont know of 1 person who is better off then they where 3 yrs ago, In most cases, worse off, Would have much rather had seen Trump Run, (or Rudy giuliani) Hes( DT) no BS kinda guy that is a true business man that knows how to manage money, he supports the US more then any other candidate has, He's tired of other countries laughing at us while we support them. Why WOULD my kids be covered until 22??? Oh Bcz jobs just arent paying enough ( for those that can find jobs) and to have health care on their own, & campanies just dont have that anymore... I have worked since 14 Iam well over 40 & Do not have health care, BUT bcz I do work parttime ( have not been able to find fulltime perm work with medical since 2009) I Do not qualify for any help. I have NEVER had a FREE anything including A ER visit ever in my life. ( Including when I was a single mother of 3 but I WORKED for 9$ a hr & made to much $$ For help) I have not been to the doctors for one reason since 2008 BECAUSE I CANT afford IT A WEIRD concept I know .... But If you can afford something you cant have it... If you Didnt earn it, ITS NOT YOURS!!

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BrickMom3

4:15 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012

& BTW if you hate it here so much by all means your welcome to leave... Unlike other contries you are not forces to stay here... Just sayin'

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Gene

5:06 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012

BrickMom3.....
Let's get something straight. I never said that I hate it here. That said....
Do you really think that it's Obama's fault that our economy, and that of the world is in such disarray? Republican Senators have filibustered every jobs bill that was presented,only to try and bring down Obama and prevent any recovery from happening.
You are not alone in your economic struggles,but to blame it on Obama is short sighted. The Bush administration allowed investor banks to make money by allowing them to bet on mortgage loans that they knew were bad from the start. Another words when people with bad credit couldn't pay their mortgages,these banks made money by betting on them to fail. Bottom line,the wall of cards came down for everyone except the banksters. Houses forclosed on,people out of work,etc,etc.
Obama comes into office...2 wars,an unfunded tax cut,and an unfunded medicare prescription d plan, leftover from the Republican Bush years are now added to a budget on top of an economic disaster caused by derugulation under Bush.
GM and Chrysler were failing and Romney's answer was to let them go bankrupt. That's how a CEO(Romney,Trump,or whoever)would have handled it. Meanwhile thousands of people would be out of work,and a whole U.S. industry would suffer.
Obama did not let that happen and GM is #1 again . USA USA
People with your economic struggles vote against fair wages ,unions,etc Why?
'A race to the bottom' sposored by Fox so called News.

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truthasitis

7:22 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012

As far as BUSH allowing banks to Ok loans knowing that they where not going to make good on them, Goes back to what she said about " being about to pay for what you have., & not living outside your means" Huge ISSUE!!
OBAMA made promises to the people that he would FIX it all & promised improvment... as many I myself am worse then 4 yrs ago. YOU can keep blaming someone else for his short comings, If it was the other way around would everyone be saying " its only because bush set it up that way for him?" AT SOME POINT he needs to take responsiblity for the lack of turn around...

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Gene

10:43 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012

Truthasitis.... If 27 straight months of job growth is not turnaround after losing 750,000 jobs a month, then what channel are you watching? Mitch McConnell said that his 'single most important goal' was to have Obama not re-elected. So what did he and his Republican Senate do? They voted no on every single jobs bill that was presented. Some of these bills were originally Republican ideas. There is now a record number of filibusters in the Senate. This borders on treason to the American people for political gains. If your life has not improved, it is because these greedy Republicans have put up every obstacle so that the uber rich can get richer and that you and I are divided .
On the housing issue, some of those people who applied for mortgages should have been turned down based on their income and credit, but because of deregulations that gave the green light to all the snake oil salesmen that were banksters, many people were duped into thinking that they could afford anything.
If you want to remain short sighted and apathetic, that is your right. Lower taxes on corporations that have record profits is not the answer to lack of demand from your average neighbor. More people need to make and spend middle class incomes. Take a look at the jobs bills that were killed in the Senate when you get a chance. Tell us all what you don’t like about them

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more then UKnow

8:36 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

I DO not have sympathy for those that walked into a 350,000 home & got swept off their feet & had the "entitlrment mind sent" while only making 70,0000 a yr.
REALLY YOU CANT AFFORD YOUR HOUSE??!! SHOCKING!! . DONT BUY SOMETHING YOU CANT AFFORD. & NOW WE ALL HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE OF PEOPLE NOT BEING RESPONSIBLE

2012green

8:49 am on Friday, June 15, 2012

#1 get gad back to less then 2$ a gallon leaving deposible money in peoples pockets at the end of the week ( an extra 100-200$) & they will spend it on entertainement, more retail shopping etc.... If gas was at a reasonable cost, our products that we get would cost us all less, Obama is NEVER going to do that bc he has a agenda to support middle east... & WANTS us to need them for our fuel...

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Gene

2:15 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012

2012green.....The current price of gas has nothing to do with Obama,Bush, or Romney. FACT#1: There is more domestic drilling going on right now than ever before,and there is a glut of shale oil. FACT#2: The biggest export in the U.S. right now is FUEL
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/americas-top-export-in-2011-was--fuel/2011/12/31/gIQAzlvgSP_blog.html
Fact#3: Demand at this time is VERY low.
SPECULATION FROM WALL ST. is artificially controlling the price of gas at our pumps.
The keystone pipeline (that you hear about on Fox News) that Republicans want, is designed to bring dirty tar sands through our environment. This was illegal under George W.BUSH for environmental concerns.
http://www.labor4sustainability.org/articles/the-keystone-pipeline-too-dirty-for-george-w-bush/
They want to ship this stuff down to the Gulf of Mexico to be refined and sent to China. Guess who makes out on that deal? Not us!

2012green

8:51 am on Friday, June 15, 2012

Keep in mind he DOES support funding to them for weapons to train with, to kill our men ... (( Ohh sorry I forgot people arent sapposta Know that or they just want to FORGET they heard about it... ) oops

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Gene

2:18 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012

Yeah, if the price of gas came down we would have more money to spend on food, entertainment etc. Do you think Republicans want the price to go down NOW so people like you can blame Obama before an election?
As far as the middle east... He got Bin Laden, he got us out of Iraq, and he has Al Quaida on the run. Would you like another war with a mideast country? I don't!
President Obama's commerce department just recently slapped a 31% tariff on Chinese solar panels.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/18/business/energy-environment/us-slaps-tariffs-on-chinese-solar-panels.html?
That’s thinking about us and our kids in the future. It's about time and I'm glad that we have a person in charge like him and not a greedy CEO type who has no connection to real people

whatrudrinkin

4:42 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012

Gene, Iam not sure if you are aware of this is or not, but the same Men that got Obama are the same Military that The C. I C made cuts to, the same CIC that made the Miltary Fight for to get a small raise in pay ( compared to welfare got a high increase of Cost of living without even asking) Please understand OBAMA didnt killl him our US Navy Seals Did. just to also inform you, there is StiLL ! a war going on, Just reached 2,000 lives lost in afgainstain ( from vets that I know Afgainastain is worse then Iraq) & we are still having men & woman training to go in @ 6 to 8 month tours at a time, ... for full combat tours .... I have 3 teenagers & 1 twenty something... I do think of my children, & as things are now, they will NEVER have financial stability retirement ( that even questionable for me) they will never be able to own a home, In fact at this point difclt. for them to even leave mine... while the effort is not lacking, the incomes are... That Change he was speaking of NEED to come Fast, you cant keep blaming someone for what you have not done or not accomplished... If there was turn for the better I would be the first person to praise him for a job well done, but that has NOT happened... in fact things are in most cases worse...

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Gene

9:11 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012

Yes, our real heros are our military! It sickened me to see(awol) George W. Bush on an aircraft carrier saying mission accomplished in 2003, when so many of our heros died for HIS war in Iraq afterwards.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel in Afghanistan, but as you said, many of our young are still dying over there. The sooner they get out the better
Our Navy seals are the best in the world and they got Bin Laden on intellegence that went right up to the white house. Obama responded and the seals got him.
I can remember hearing about intellegence reports of radicals flying planes into the world trade center in 2001 that were ignored. What does that tell you? Mitt Romney was for the Vietnam war, but he was a deferrment queen who spent his eligible years as a missionary for the Mormons in France,where he eventually became a Mormon bishop.
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Gene

9:13 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012

A president alone can not get jobs bills passed. A tea bagger house,and Republican filibusters in the senate have impeded every effort for the sake of their own political gains at the expense of the American people.
We need change,but that change is to stop corporate Republican puppets from spreading their venom on the middle class.We need a congress that will get jobs bills passed and to stop whining about more tax cuts for corporations who have record profits. Instead, why don't they hire returning vets . They used to hire them at the post office, but now there's talk of privatizing them(to what? Walmart wages) They keep driving the middle class to the bottom. Remember what got us here before you waste your vote

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more then UKnow

8:27 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

Did you know, with bank workers most are there just going to work everyday collecting a pay check at the end of the week like those of us that still have jobs, they have nothing to do with the Corp. part of it, many ( hundreds who had worked as tellers, head tellers , managers & work for many yrs ) got laid off to get vets hired ( and many of them where unable to last more then a year at these jobs) ... Vets DO NEED JOBS & there needs to be a movement in getting them postions, But NOT at the expenence of other people lossing their jobs, Its just changes the face on the unemployment line. & As far as ANTI Corp. world, There where alot more people working in the late 80's & 90's when Corp AMERICA was booming, thank Clinton for "out sorcing our jobs & relocating our Companies over seas, to Country now that will not even open there doors to open trade to us.

MILITANT ANTI-THEIST

8:28 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

@gene..... you speak nothing but rational comments. Your comment in regards to the middle class is exactly what this country needs. If you have 10 families with an income of $75k in comparision to one family with a $750k income which one does the economy more justice? I don't think any practical mind can argue this.....

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sad thought

9:33 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

FYI.... 75,000 would be GREAT, Average income for Brick Rest. ( per household NOT PERSON) is btwn 50-55,000 That INCLUDES all BOE incomes over 100,000 My guess if the avarge is about 55,000 We have ALOT of homes under 30,000....

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MILITANT ANTI-THEIST

10:26 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012

@sadthought, you're wrong... in fact it's higher per household than my speculation.
per wikipedia...

The Census Bureau's 2006-2010 American Community Survey showed that (in 2010 inflation-adjusted dollars) median household income was $65,129 (with a margin of error of +/- $2,969) and the median family income was $81,868 (+/- $2,081). Males had a median income of $60,769 (+/- $1,755) versus $41,361 (+/- $1,655) for females. The per capita income for the township was $33,258 (+/- $891). About 4.1% of families and 5.2% of the population were below the poverty line, including 8.1% of those under age 18 and 5.9% of those age 65 or over.[

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SUNNYday

2:32 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

2010 DID NOT take income infomation

Gene

10:57 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012

More then UKnow..... Regular bank people are great. I have a person near and dear to me that works in a bank and enjoys it. Never heard of a person who lost their to job to a Vet! That shouldn't be how it goes anyhow. But... when a Vet applies for an opening where they are qualified I think they should get SPECIAL preference because they did something that 99% of people will never do. They put their life on the line, for all of us and our great country. We all owe them more than most of us are willing to give.
I totally agree that Nafta( free trade between The U.S. ,Canada,and Mexico)was a bad move that Clinton and the Republican congress approved. Ross Perot was right on that one.

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sckoftrash

9:41 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012

Its true.. I forget what bank it was but laid off over 100 people from the bank to give jobs to Vets... ( thinking it was Ocean First, BUT NOT SURE... I know it was a local bank) & Vets do get a Pref on job apps as regular practice.

Gene

11:24 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012

Obama on the otherhand is pushing for tariff on tires, solar panels, and wind turbines from China. Do you think Mitt Romney cares about the American worker? Corporations,yes. The fact is corporations are not people unlike what he said. They pay their CEO'S now , many more times than what they paid them in the late 80's and ealier 90's. The top 400 families have as much wealth as the bottom 50% of all the people. Mitt Romney wants to give these families a tax break,while asking the poor to sacrifice more? Reagan and Eisenhower would be considered a socialist by today's Republi-con tea bagger standards. .Vote out the Republican congressmen and Senators who only represent corporate America. You should care more about our Constitution. 'WE THE PEOPLE.'

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sckoftrash

9:44 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012

as a very wise man once said " ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY" I think alot of people have lost that idea... You can not expect hand outs of money ...freebies for life, No taxes back on this & expect nothing to get cut.... As with any budget, you need $$ coming in, not just money going out... at some point its gotta catch up & nothings going to be left

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Gene

9:38 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

Freebies like no taxes paid on money stashed in Swiss banks? Freebies like money given to big oil companies? Freebies like Ceo's paying less than 15% on taxes(because there allowed to claim income as capital gains when others who earn less pay more of a percentage? Freebies like using our roads bridges,parks,and damns and calling themselves libertarian? Freebies like sending a majority of poor people to fight in the military while they themselves only talk the talk. Freebies like sitting on the Supreme Court while your wife is allowed to accept donations from the tea party? Freebies like destroying our waterways, causing earthquakes by fracking for natural gas, and polluting our air? And then Republicans want to cut Medicare to a voucher program while also looking to cut social security for seniors who paid into it(they call it reform). I can think of a lot of ways of bringing $$ in. Start with all the job bills that were filibustered by the Republican Senate. Disposable income for the middle class to spend on goods and pay their fair share of taxes. Stop the white collar welfare where the BIG MONEY is wasted.

SUNNYday

2:31 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

The median income for a household in Brick Township, NJ is $52,092, and the median income for a family was $61,446. not really sure what the diffrence btwn " household income & family income is.... But still WAY to low Again that is INCLUDING those in township or School BOE making over 100,000 Would then can realize that there are still many under 30,000 as a family

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Gene

9:48 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

More people who make 100K locally can only help our economy when they spend their disposable income here. This is good for all local businesses. Cops,teachers, firemen, etc. Fair unionized wages to stimulate the local economy and bring everyone else up by creating demand for goods and services.

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be real

10:24 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012

@ Gene that would be great to have PPL who make over 100k spend their $ in local shops boosting the ecnomy, however, the small local shops are closing bcz they can not afford the taxes that have been demanded in the past 3 yrs, closing shop means more unemployed workers, with the average income of Brick, NOT to many people are walking around spending $$ they are only buying what is NEEDED when you have a household making 52,000 a yr

L

9:28 am on Monday, June 18, 2012

Nice to see the obama vs reality crowd alive and well in Brick... :)

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Gene

9:03 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012

L ? Is that L on your forehead?

Gene

9:31 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

be real.... They are closing because demand isn't there. This is because the middle class has been brought to it's knees by the failure of Reaganomics. Corporations have more money than ever before. The low taxes that they now pay makes it more advantageous that they keep their money instead of reinvesting in their company. The bottom line, less middle class jobs to go arouind and less DEMAND for goods and services. If it were only taxes that were closing shops,why then is Walmart,Target,and the cheap dollar stores doing decent business.
Not enough people making decent wages anymore and the Repulican senators filibuster every jobs bill that comes up just try and make Obama look bad,.
More people should have the opportunity to make more money rather than a few at the top making their own set of rules.

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