Obama needed a big win or a Romney stumble. He got neither.
Romney got what he wanted.

I see who the fat cats (and fatheads) are for. http://washingtonexaminer.com/wal-mart-boss-sam-walton-funding-obama-big-time/article/2511391

President Obama was very presidential, knew his facts since he is commander in chief. Mitt Romney was off his game and backed track and flip flopped on many issues and agreed with the Pres. on the rest. Very poor showing, is this how he would act with foreign leaders, go with the wind and then change his opinion and therefore who knows what he would do? I see big trouble with Mitt Romney at the helm.

Left, right
Blue, red
Coke, Pepsi
Yankees, Red Sox

You sheeple still believe in the paradigm. Why?

Very clear to me, Mitt will say anything just to be president. To this very second, I really don't know where he stands on anything!

Romney is pathetic.

Somebody needs to tell the president the military still uses bayonets.

Hey Willis, I am assuming you are very, very young. Have some respect for Samantha Siang...and like the President or not, at least show him respect for the Commander in Chief.

Ann thanks for joining in. I have no respect for the dude pretending to play President in between golfing and visiting with Hollywood celebs. People EARN respect.....Barry Hussein Obama has NOT!

I am young and I am not voting for some Democrat that wants to steal my money and give it to some thug in Camden.

Somebody inform Obama that the Marines still use bayonets!

wasn't it funny when the old timer called Osama "OBAMA"

even he knows Obama is a terrorist

I watched the debate on MSNBC and listened to their analysis afterwards. Agreeing that MSNBC is somewhat liberal, I went to CNN because that news station is considered more objective and more republicans watch it then democrats. Well, they had poll samples taken from registered voters who watched the debate and 48% said that the president won and 40% said Romney won! They also have other statistics but I won’t bore you with them. I was looking for Romney the conservative OMG! Everything the president said, Romney agreed with and when confronted with the fact that previously he said the counter opposite, Romney denied it! Romney will do or say anything to be president.

Obama lost. He should call Mayflower for good moving rates for January 2013.

After tonight's so called debate it is likely China will up it's military spending by about double the current rate, sign a military alliance with Russia and both will vow to defend Iran against the coming Israeli ordered US invasion.

Seriously, these two ass clowns are on TV threatening to bomb and invade and wage war and issue sanctions on half the world! Do they think the nations like Iran, China and Russia are not listening to these threats!?!?

And both are on their knees asking Israel what orders they have to issue to us as far as who we must bomb and invade. If ever the relationship of master and slave was made more obvious I don't know of it. Two men who would be president vowing on all accounts to take orders from Israel! Truely mind blowing!

Mitt Romney will most likely win the election. The big loser in this election will be the bias media who has shown America their true colors.

They are both bank-owned by Goldman Sachs and the other crooks. These two shills only serve wall st. They want to make our kids cannon fodders for israel in a war against iran.

The biggest issue here is NOT FOREIGN policy its our ECONOMY!! If you walked away from this debate and thought Foreign Policy makes Obama strong then your just not paying attention. We cannot be a leader in the world (and I am getting tired of this all together let someone else stand up to the plate for once) if our own ECONOMY is weak. And if anyone on here whether your for Obama or against Obama does not see that our Economy is in terrible condition is blind and ignorant to the facts. This sitting President has not stated ONE THING as to how he is going to change his course from the past 4 years of failed Domestic Policy on the Economy and Job creation....and If I hear one more thing about Green Energy and Research I am going to throw up. Listen Research and Green Energy is great but we need JOBS NOW, PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING! Also Obama-Care should have never been the focus point of this Current President it should have been THE ECONOMY!!! This administration has its priorities so messed up right now its time for change PERIOD. I think its pretty clear to the American People by the Polls as of late that this madness has to come to and End....Just saying

the election is one thing, the real question is will there be anyone left to actually take office in January. 12-21-12 is just around the corner and when the end of the world stuff hits the fan will it really matter.

Obama looked like a desperate challenger- Romney looked like the president!
Obama rudely interrupted Romney at least 10 times.
Why has it been 4 years and NOW Obama wants to focus on America??????

They are both ridiculous...one wants our middle class money to help pay other peoples income & insurance, and the other, well he and his Boy Wonder(who BTW is the one we have to look out for) want to take our middle class money and give it to the rich so they get richer...Ummmm...either way we are screwed.

Obama was rude , snarky and delivered lots of cheap shots. He was only interrupted 6 times as Romney 8! My vote has been swayed to Romney. We need a fresh start in the White House. Obama has done nothing for the USA. Out with the old and in with the new!! TEAM ROMNEY!

If you haven't heard of the Billionaire Koch brothers everyone needs to see the documentary on them before you vote! Why because Romney is definitely part of their club. They are doing their best to destroy this Country. Check them out then vote.

you are the problem, swayed by back peddling lies

Obama bowed to the Arabs. He said on his tour that the US has been arrogant and dismissive. He refused to meet with the Israel PM. The USA is no longer the leader of the free world. If you are weak economically, you can't be strong militarily. China and Russia know that and Iran knows Obama is weak and will continue to get a nuclear bomb. That's why I already voted by mail for Romney.

ObamaPointedOutMitt'sFlipFlops

So, I've learned a few things about Obama...okay, two things (already knew he was a liar). Anyway, Ioved to conflictive/ironic statements he made. 1). The wealthy need to play by the rules.....and "give just a little bit more?" Which is it??? Also, I loved that he stated Mitt didn't know how the military worked and then implied that bayonets are no longer used by our troops. Wait, WHO doesn't know how are military works????

Well, our"Commander in Chief" certainly screwed up the facts in the middle east just last month. How good of a leader can he be...that attack went on for 10 hours while a US Drone was overhead waiting for orders from our "commander in Chief" which never happened. Not sure if I would trust him after that mess-up.

Obama bin laden......very funny.

Ann some people just don't get it. Some of the things i have read on here are direct insults by people who have only watched tv or listened to others have done no research for themselfs. My fear is these same people still get a vote.

Does anyone know if Eva Longoria tweeted any obscene messages again?

I also find amusing all the psychos who threaten to riot and cause mayhem if Obama loses. That's real mature. What I can't understand is why are they not rioting now given the horrible conditions of the country. I mean no jobs, too much debt, the cities of democrats are war zones. Some might argue they are already rioting in the cities. Detroit sure likes like it and so does Camden.

Romney confused me a littel bit. He stated he would pour investments into research and think tanks (which is terrific) -- but not companies. He also stated he wanted to balance trade with China, increasing our exports there. Now, companies are what take the research to fruition -- products and services. So if you heavily invest in research but not business that can turn that research into products and services, how will American business -- and thus exports -- grow?

I'm probably way off base, but if someone can help me figure this out, I would really appreciate it. Sorry if I sound ignorant!

TO: What you talkin about Willis? -- Doesn't Apple have a love-fest with the Democrats? Doesn't Al Gore have some sort of leadership position in Apple?

Obama owns Apple stock. He supports jobs in China even if he doesn't know how to use an IPHONE. He still likes his crackberry.

President Obama's snarky comments regarding our military, the "we have these things called aircraft carriers, etc" summed up his whole campaign. He cant substantially andwer any questions regarding his presidency and he has NO plan for the next four years so he attacks his opponent. He's running like he hasn't been President the last four years.

Newsflash to momere: The "Billionaire Koch Brothers" donate(d) heavily to DEMOCRATS as well as REPUBLICANS. Get your facts straight!

RE: "momere 8:03 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 If you haven't heard of the Billionaire Koch brothers everyone needs to see the documentary on them before you vote! Why because Romney is definitely part of their club. They are doing their best to destroy this Country. Check them out then vote."

No reason to insult eachother .. Romney states, "he would be a better candidate due to his business experience " lets check the record he wouldn't give up his tax information at any point in time anyone on this list can be audited and must give up all tax returns and receipts. What does the great rich man hide and if he hide stuff now what can he hide and what will he hide if he were to win. Just another thing the American tax payer must worry about. Anyone notice Oprah is not talking up Obama this campaign. Why would she want to pay more taxes because she makes more money keep in mind it is not a black or white issue it is green, the color of money.

Does the Chinese government create jobs? You bet they do. They are investing in their infra structure and new renewable energy etc. etc. Romney must have been in the Florida sun too much cause he was red faced and getting more so the whole time. How anybody can stand behind his ideas of Bush or millionair doctrine is beyond me. Even mitt can't force himself to stand behind them so he's fled them. He must have truly found his messiah's message some where these last few debates. Because he has apparently fled his party's unholy doctrines.

George what are you talkin about? Is that like we need to build roads and bridges and invest in teachers? Are these all union jobs? What about the private sector the one Obama said was doing just fine. I don't know many in the private sector with lower incomes, higher healthcare costs and NO PENSIONS doing fine.

Obama ran on this in 2008. Why didn't he do it? Too busy golfing or working on Obamascare?

Last I checked Obama's investments in green enerygy like Solyndra, chevy Volt and A123 didn't exactly work out for us

Maybe you can be more specific on what projects we should do, will they be union or non union jobs and most importantly with a $2 trillion budget deficit, where on earth will the money come from?

Thanks

When will BHO allow his academic records to be opened, it's been 4 years and? Makes you wonder what he is hiding!

RomneyFlippedAgainAgreesW/Obama on Foreign Policy. Does Romney think Americans are brain dead and don't see his constant flip flopping?

Does Obama think we haven't seen what he has done to destroy America the past 4 years?

57 million on food stamps! $1 trillion in welfare spending.

My god that's awful!! Wait, was that what Obama was after...maybe he has succeeded.

Johnjay - have you seen the documentary! Obviously, Not! And if you have and still want me to get my facts straight you're a confused sad person.

ObamaSavedCountryFromDepression after banks & Wall St nearly gambled the US economy away while pocketing great Sums of Money. Now Romney wants to strip away the checks & balances that Obama put in place to prevent banks & Wall St from nearly bringing this country to Collapse again.

Romney believes it's OK to lie; Mormons call it "Lying for the Lord". When he was Bishop and Stake President of the Mormon religion, he showed his true colors. He doesn't believe women should be paid as much as men - they shouldn't have careers.
http://matawan-aberdeen.patch.com/blog_posts/mitt-romney-man-of-faith-liar#comments

Whats you talkin about Tonto? Obama and the democrats supported Fannie and Freddie who gave away great sums of money to homeowners who should never have gotten a loan. Ask Barney Frank about this

If Obama saved us, why the huge debt, 57 million on food stamps, 23 million unemployed, lower incomes, higher healthcare costs

Is this your definition of saving us???? I would hate to see how you would screw us. Geez

Why are you surprised that Obama was trying to talk down to Romney? That comes from his appearances when he was talking to "The View, Letterman, and his supporters. To prove my point, just read his worshippers on this site. 'Nuff said.

I was waiting for Obama to speak the truth of the reason for his so called "apology" tour. Our government hasbeen medling in almost all third world countries business by inserting and supporting evil and cruel dictators so our rich can exploit their natural resources and their people for monetary gain. We, as citizens, should admit this once and for the good of us all world wide and go on repentive tour apologizing for letting this happen as we were and are still asleep at the wheel. Time to grow up Americans. Confess our nations since loudly and get over this "we are the holy ones because might has made us right" b.s.

Great debate. O: Im a bigger warmonger then you and never even got in a fist fight.
R: No way, Im a bigger warmonger and I dodged the draft by serving the cult I belong to in France.
O and R: We both agree we get our marching orders from Israel

I noticed all the Occupy people had IPhones but no jobs......very unusual.

62% give Romney the win. Explains why Dick Morris, former Clinton campaign mgr predicts Romney will carry NJ in the election.

wow. even the patch has taken our freedom of speech away when it comes to speaking of Israel. What a hypocritical nation both we and they are. They say they stand for freedom, unless it tells the truth that's against both their governments and injustices. Cowards fear the truth and hide it. If they can't hide it they silence it or kill those speaking it.

Lights out for Obama

Tuesday, October 23, 2012

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 50% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 46%. One percent (1%) prefers some other candidate, and two percent (2%) are undecided.

Other than brief convention bounces, this is the first time either candidate has led by more than three points in months. See daily tracking history.

Romney attracts support from 89% of Republican voters. The president earns the vote from 82% of Democrats. Among those not affiliated with either major party, the GOP challenger leads by nine

Let's try this again. As Romney spoke of our navy and protecting Israel, I could hear the dead sailors of the US Liberty rolling over in their graves. With allies like this, who needs enemies? God told you to fight for them no matter what they do? Does this make sense to any of you? Pharoah's creed "so let it be written so let it be done?" lol. you all still believe everything you read? Or hear? Or see nowadays? shalom

momere -- Are you denying the Koch Brothers gave BIG MONEY to Democrats? A simple "Yes" or "No" will be fine.

RE: momere 9:18 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 Johnjay - have you seen the documentary! Obviously, Not! And if you have and still want me to get my facts straight you're a confused sad person.

Did Obama do his job effectively? The answer is "NO". He swore an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Obama's relentless assault on our civil rights -- from the right to arms, free speech, association, to be secure in our homes -- he and his minions in the (in)Justice Department label "White-Male-Christian-Military Veterans" are "terrorists".

Great -- so I gues the MILLIONS of illegals from south of the border with OVERT drug cartel ties are here for Obamaphones and Obamacare.

I presume we all know that united we stand; divided we fall. Well, we are a nation divided and falling rapidly. Maybe I missed it, but I haven't heard President Obama once say anything about working together with those across the political party lines. Not only have I heard Mr. Romney say it on many occasions, but he DID IT as Governor of Massachusetts. Please do look up his record. Remember when Massachusetts used to be called "Taxachusetts"? Not so anymore. The truth is, our country's economy is "big business", and we need someone who has succeeded at that, and Mr. Romney has. He has a proven track record. President Obama has had 4 years to stabilize our economy, when he promised change, and the only changes I've seen are gas prices, real estate taxes, utility bills, etc.; all of which have gone up during his term while salaries have stayed the same, gone down, and for some disappeared altogether. How does that boost our economy? People need money to spend in order to maintain even a stable economy. As far as the President looking and sounding "very Presidential" last night is not a reason to vote for him. (It just means he had a better coach since the first debate.) Go to their individual track records before making your decision. I hope you won't vote for someone who makes a lot of promises when he/she needs your vote and then doesn't keep those promises once elected. I've fallen for that one too many times. Good luck everyone, and God willing, may the best man win!

Let's see, what's the bigger threat to the security of the United States:

* "White-Male-Christian-Military Veterans"

-or-

* Foreign nationals from Communist China that can work in the United States in areas such as telecommunications, banking, and pharmacuetical industries

Anyone???

Inside the numbers Romney did not hurt himslef at all and President Obama did not inspire any new votes. In fact Romney is now tied with Obama on likability, which is huge for Romney. Nothing's changed--we are right where we were before last night...

John--please with the money unions pump into democratic campaigns how can you discuss the Koch brothers. Plus--nobody cares where money comes from--it's the economy, the economy and the economy. And Obama ain't winning that battle--look at polls...

The only foreign policy that matters is Libya--and Americans are watching this scandal play out right in front of their eyes everyday. Obama can't use a snide comment to change that. 4 Dead Americans and 15 excuses so far from White House--they can't run from this....

I would like to know how President Obama and his lackey, Secretary Napalitano of Homeland Security escape scrutiny by calling American military veterans POTENTIAL TERRORISTS.

I know men and women that have served from WWII...Korea...Vietnam...Beruit...Kosovo...Iraq...Somalia...Persian Gulf...on and on --- does this mean our veterans are being monitored by DHS??

Obama won the first debate? Really? If looking like you're stoned means you won--then he was the winner...

Here's an update to consider... Since all of the liberal media outlets are touting the President as winning the debate last night, then why is it that the stock market is down 239 points so far today? Just sayin'...

President Obama won the debate. No question. Now you can continue to delete my post based on my honest beliefs. But you can't erase President Obama being pesident for another term. It will happen. Now go delete that too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6URuvgL2CKA&feature=youtu.be

Ohio breaking for Romney....even CBS knows it

GC: May I remind everyone who were stomping their feet and jumping up and down about the reason gas prices were so high during the Bush administration was because "the Bush's were oil people and making a fortune off the high gas prices". So how come I haven't heard a peep out of anyone regarding the highest gas prices ever during the Obama administration? You can't have it both ways...

I feel that when it comes to foreign policy Obama is a better choice.I don't want to see
anymore young men and women maimed in wars like the one in Iraq that were started by neocons and chicken hawks.Romney tries to come across as a tough guy with all his tough talk,let him send one his sons to fight the next neocon war.

Dee now come on. do you believe in the tooth fairy too? Democrats only say stuff about Repubs not when they do it. The know the media only covers it one way so its free.

think gas, debt, jobs, dead americans (where's the CNN body count ticker), terrorism at our military base in Texas,

When Bush spent too much - he was unpatriotic and irresponsible
When Obama spends too much - he is unpatriotic and irresponsible
When Bush cut taxes they were unpaid for
When Obama cut taxes they were unpaid for

Just go back and listen to all of Obama's fancy schmancy words from 2008.....he hasn't done anything he said he would

How many Democrat policies have ever worked? Do they help people in Newark or Camden? Asbury Park better off with all that school money?

Here's a bonus question. Why are liberals against the death penalty but ok with Drone strikes to kill people?

So Mitt will saY anything to get elected and Obama promissed us change 4yrs ago ..So which one do you believe..We are worse then we were and no signs of any change...My opinion Congress and Big Business run our country not the Presidents...So we lose all the time..Just Sad and B.S...

Need some change and a hug?

Did you ever hear of TERM LIMITS? At least we have it for POTUS.

Are you guilty of voting for Lautenberg over and over again? While the debt was exploding all these years, what the heck was he doing but watching it happen? Did he ever propose a bill to cut spending? How about our congress people or NJ Assembly?

Unless you are ready to vote them all out, don't complain.

I want term limits. It will give us a chance.

ROMNEY:

Foreign policy 1980's...
Social policy 1950's...
Economic policy 1920's.

No Thank You!

stop! Obama Bin Laden said that last night. He's a dope.

What decade is Obama's welfare and debt regime from?

Come back when you have something useful to offer

WYTAW - I think I may have confused you... I don't disagree with you, except for the term limits. It can work against you when you have someone who really is doing a good job. It would also encourage too much corruption (not like there isn't enough already!) but if politicians know they are only going to serve one term, they are going to take whatever money they can get their hands on and run. And by the way, I don't know about your tooth fairy, but since the Obama administration, mine is now broke!

Mattie - I hope you will do your research before you vote. Parroted responses from what you heard at the debate last night will not serve you or the rest of the country well when you vote - just like voting for someone based on the fact that he "looked and sounded very Presidential" last night. If that were the case, then George Clooney should be President! Even if you decide to vote for President Obama, please do complete AND unbiased research before making your decision. Think about what you life was like 4 years ago, do you have a better job, are you paying less for gas (and if you are, please share), have your utility bills gone down, taxes gone down? And if you're a homeowner, has your real estate value gone up in the past 4 years?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOZpJ4rSITo

LET'S REVIEW THE 2008 DEBATES SHALL WE

OBAMA LIES!!

HE SAID TAXPAYERS WOULD GET THE STIMULUS MONEY PAID BACK!

DID WE??? IT DIDN'T EVEN WORK

NET SPENDING CUTS?

EMPHASIZE OBAMA SUPPORTS PAY AS YOU GO????

REVIEW THE BUDGET LINE BY LINE, PAGE BY PAGE......DID YOU?

HOW MUCH MONEY ARE SAVING FROM BORROWING FROM CHINA?

NOT GOING TO GO BACK TO OUR OLD WAYS

RIGHT......ONLY ADDED TRILLIONS TO THE DEBT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXS5Am0B6M

no longer will we borrow $700 B from China and send it to Saudi Arabia?

Burdnening our children and grandchildren

Is doubling the debt not burdening them????

how's that working for us Obama??

Focused on resources onto solar.....

Like Solyndra???

Fuel efficient car?

Like the Chevy Volt????

Will you balance the federal budget?

DEM DEBATE 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5DUV7mdNZY

We are seeing costs of everything go up.....SINCE OBAMA became President

Obama uses talking points. No specifics. Not able to dig out of the hole.......OBAMA dug it deeper.

Listen to him ignore the question.

Nice work OBAMA

Richardson says YES he will balance it.

Biden says in stark terms.....priorties.........cutting $20 B out of the military.......bring down the debt by $150 BILLION.....THAT'S IT!!!!

Who has ballooned the deficit OBAMA/BIDEN?????

Pay as you go.....OBAMS STEALS THIS LATER IN HIS CAMPAIGN

Costs are up.......Dodd says......need JOBS......best program ever......OK IRAQ SPENDING WHICH IS UNPAID FOR except for the jobs it pays for....AND WE WILL RESPEND THE UNPAID MONEY BACK HOME

John Edwards......corporate power and GREED.

Hillary.....go back to 1990s.....use rules of discipline of not spending more than we can afford......it will take time but can be done. Decent answer\

DEMS ON ENTITLEMENTS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7faOimK5x0&feature=relmfu

Clinton.....does too much go to entitlements? IT IS A PROBLEM WITH MEDICARE!!! Fiscal responsibility. Medicare costs soaring.

How the heck did she lose to OBAMA?

Biden....will be????? SS is an ENTITLEMENT. LIFT THE CAP = RAISE TAXES!!
Medicare is COSTS!!!

Have we made these changes JOEY???? WHY NOT??

Obama.............if we went back to obesity rates of 80s would save money = EXERCISE PEOPLE. Change Business in DC.....WELL POTUS....it's been 4 years...how's it going?

What a dope

NATIONAL DEBT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=QZCzUecCT3M&feature=endscreen

Debt is at $9 TRILLION........what is it today???? $16 TRILLION

Obama..........priortize spending.....ok, have you? I am a progressive.......listen to his talking points.....same old same old.

Phase down the war....shouldn't that have REDUCED THE DEFICIT???

2008 deficit $450 BILLION
2012 deficit $1.5 TRILLION

what the heck happened?

Obama in 2008 all he talked about was the debt and irresponsible and unpatriotic and borrowing from CHINA.......

Obama added $5 Trillion in new debt

When asked by Letterman how much the debt was.....he suddenly FORGETS.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D55384wiUg

Very convenient Obama.......use it to win votes in 2008 and then do the same thing you complained about.

Here is the answer

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fUmFBMVWNI

Most irresponsible admin ever....debt over $9T......money we all have to pay back

Honest accounting???? Need good numbers???? what?

Biggest problem Long term.......yeah yeah no bid contracts, earmarks.......google for government bill.......database for all spending......what is that link? Anyone????

What was the long term problem again??????

MEDICARE BUDGET BUSTER - WILL CONSUME EVERYTHING

Costs skyrocketing because of healthcare INFLATION......not old people....WHAT????

Biggest savings IF WE DO IT RIGHT......

Notice how he never answers the original question about the debt......

He complained at $9 TRILLION SO WHY IS IT $16 TRILLION

You have a right to your opinion! I assume after reviewing all the comments that many posters are merely venting after the debate. This is no problem because, for one reason or another they are not eligible to vote on November 6. I also find it difficult have any credence in the opinions of individuals that for some reason or another must hide their true identity behind a pseudonym or moniker as a cloaking device, but that is their right to do so. I look at Romney; he seems intelligent, gives a good presentation but he has never had to count his pennies before he got to the register. He will never know what that 47% feels. It has to be something one has to experience, not something you read in a book and learn. He has lived a plush life. One thing he doesn't know how to do is "add". Obama is correct, his numbers do NOT add up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=984D1_q24W0

Obama would do this

Spend some money on key issues........reform healthcare

There's the Borrow from China comment and mortgage our children......

How come he never says this anymore?????????????

Net spending CUT......priorities

How can we add $5 Trillion if what he said was true?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=EUQI5PzKPPs&feature=endscreen

Watch what they DO....not what they SAY!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft_Mb-4nXJk&feature=related

He's such a joke

Mattie - First I thank your husband for his service. I have a son-in-law who served two tours in Iraq, as did his brother; both captains in the Army. I also had a cousin (deceased) who was a recipient of the Bronze Star for his service in Vietnam. So I am very connected to the feelings and issues of veterans' families. But truth be told, and I'm not saying this is the case with your husband, there are too many people (and many of them non-citizens) on all sorts of government assistance payrolls, who really don't need to be there. Do you honestly believe there isn't a large percentage (and I can't confirm if it's 47%) of people who are abusing "the system"? There are without question people who need the assistance and people who know how to manipulate the system - and as you say, "there is a difference..." Governor Romney wants to get those people off of the government assistance payrolls, as they should be, and increase jobs to make these people dependent on themselves and not the hard-working taxpayers. And, as a side note, not to diminish the fact that you and your husband have worked hard and raised 3 children, but you haven't walked in my shoes either, and I promise, you wouldn't want to. I respect your right to your opinion and choice, and hope that whatever happens on election day, we will all be better off than we have been the past 4 years.

Mr. Blasi - So, as long as someone agrees with you, they have a right to their opinion. You make a lot of assumptions about people, i.e., hiding behind monikers, not being eligible to vote, etc. without knowing these people. I do not hide behind a moniker, and I am (and have been for a very long time) eligible and ready to vote. If I'm wrong about you, then I can only presume that you are a close member of the Romney family since you know so much about how he has lived his life, you know, "not having to count pennies" and all that. Look into the real (not the media spun) backgrounds of Michele and Barack and see how they have lived their lives; talk about not counting pennies! And, keep in mind "plush" lifestyle that we have just provided to them on our "pennies". My comments have been respectful and truthful, and your stance of being insulting instead of respectfully debating with someone is just plain distasteful. I do have a question though, when did it become a "crime" and detriment to be wealthy in this country if you're running for office. I hear the younger generation use this phrase a lot, and I think this might be an appropriate time for me to use it... "don't be a hater".

Thank you for your respectful reply, Dee. I appreciate it.

But to believe that the answer to most or all our economic woes is to cut (poor) people off at the knees by cutting back funding on social programs like SS, SSD, welfare, food stamps, etc, is wrong thinking. To believe that 'so many' illegal immigrants are collecting welfare, food stamps or medicaid while "legitimately poor" people in this country go without, is just completely erroneous.
Now, I'm not saying there is NEVER any abuse or fraudulent people taking advantage, but the reality is that number is waaaaay too small to be overly concerned about. Ever go into the Toms River welfare or food stamp office? I know people who work there, and have for years... they don't see more black people than white people, nor see more Latino people than white people.
Illegals can NOT get food stamps or welfare without acceptable, LEGAL IDs and paperwork for everyone in the household. There is no rampant abuse of the welfare system by illegals. There just isn't. It is a fabricated 'issue' much like the voter fraud issue. It simply does not exist. These are right wing ultra conservative talking points used for fear and blame.
Our country is not in the shape it's in today because of poor people. It's in this shape because of the policies of Bush's 8 yrs of mismanagement & wars ... I refuse to blame Americans for the mismanagement by Republican politicians & the corporations and lobbyists that fund them. YMMV

Willis, what you talkin bout? That's how you're supposed to say it. you can't even get that right. You can print all your fox fake facts you want, Romney is still wrong in his ever changing positions. If it wasn't so sad that even intelligent people are being duped into buying his party's line of selling us all out. This house divided will not and is not standing. It's long past do for a revolt to gain the power we were supposed to have by being represented by ourselves, not lying lawyers presently doing so. They have read all the books and know how to twist and distort, basically out right lying, the information (bs) we keep buying. wake up americans. we've got the our rights so we can revolt. Let's take back our country and sense of dignity and honor. This joke of a government, justice system and media should have been thown out with the toilet water long ago. like in the 50s. Tv has taken over and we've been spoon fed garbage and are asking for thirds?

We thank all veterans for their service. But, how does someone work 50 -70 hours a week and then get 100% disability from the VA? I'll have to see if my dad is eligible. He's a Marine Corps, (Hey Barrack the "ps" is silent!), Korean war vet with a John Kerry type purple heart. The kind you get without spending any time in the hospital. Kerry had 3 of them. My father doesn't talk about the war much as don't most combat vets. He hates Obama.
If Obama was so concerned about the military why is he cutting 2 trillion from their budget? Money Leon Panetta wants. And another thing, does Obama, a complete loser before politics (a community organizer? As Giuliani said" what the hell is that? ) have the right to be so condescending after Mitt's navy fact? B Hussein stating we now have aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines. Both by the way are part of the navy! Actually helping Mitt make his point.

and another:

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/a-mythical-florida-mom-and-other-false-claims-about-immigrants/

and another:

http://www.uscatholic.org/culture/social-justice/2010/08/uncertain-status-15-myths-about-immigration

and one more about voter fraud:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/29/121029fa_fact_mayer

Mattie - It's easier for some folks to forget the Bush era than to accept that was the beginning of destroying this country! I'm still wondering how folks elected a clueless Texas Oil man twice! to be President. And if anyone thinks Obama hasn't done anything just wait and see what Romney does (if he's elected). Oh, he'll continue to flip flop like a fish out of water and blame Obama for NOT doing anything to get the Country back on track.

Just like he did in Massachusetts?

It's tough living in gopville, so many of you are sheep brainwashed into thinking liberals are terrorists, Romney will create more jobs. Unfortunately they will be at walmart, where you can work for peanuts, no healthcare, and be treated like crap.

Why are we even debating the Bush years??!! Are that many people who read this site still living with that era? Stop holding on to what should or could of been and focus on the future! We need to fix what is broke now. Obama did not fix the problems and he had four years to do so. Lets move on!

Oh momere I don't think anyone has forgotten the Bush era at all. I'm a little surprised you think that was the beginning of destroying our country. If you weren't around during the Kennedy administration, and before, maybe you should ask people who were. Seriously, get their opinions on WWII, Korea, civil unrest, Vietnam war and the Cuban Missile Crisis. The fact is, there will always be issues good and bad about every Presidential administration, but if you stay focused only on the bad, you will never, learn, grow and prosper. Governor Romney has committed to work across the political parties, which he did in the state of Massachusetts, so I believe he means it, knows how to do it and will do it. We are so divided politically as a nation and it's mostly because of the divisiveness the media and parties perpetuate. A united nation requires compromise and acceptance on both sides. The more people dig their heels in; not willing to budge, the more divided we become, and that's not good for any of us. Domestic policy is crucial for us as individuals, and Foreign policy is crucial for us as a world leader. Electing a President to take charge of these issues should only be done on a truthful, proven track record of experience AND results. Instead of people watching Real Housewives of NJ or The Jersey Shore (and I'm not saying you do), they should spend time watching C-SPAN. That's where you'll see and hear for yourself what our elected officials are really saying and doing.

Illegals absolutely get all these freebies at the expense of taxpayers. All their kids and they have mucho, get a free education, free school breakfast and lunch, free health care and many others. And if the Dems allowed us to enforce immigration laws those 3 black college students who were shot in the back of the head in a Newark school yard still be alive today. In the toms River area years ago, I seem to recall a case of an illegal taking a hammer and bashing in the skulls of 2 children in a dispute over rent money. I can get you a list of hundreds of murders committed by illegals if you want ,so cut the liberal BS and get your info from a real news site.

Dee
Since I'm 60 plus yrs, lived through those times you mentioned there's no need to ask anyone anything! My father served 20 plus years in the Navy, My Ex served 20 years in the Army and I worked 30 years for the Army. As a Civil Servant (Retired) I think I'm pretty in tune with the Government bureaucracy. With that said, if people really knew how the “good old boys club” really works in Washington they’d work non-stop to clean up the Congress and Senate who really have the power. They are like little boys in a Sandbox not wanting to share their toys. Do you really think they’re going to work any better with Romney? Actually, they might (if they can control his arrogance and since of entitlement) but time will tell.

I just watched a documentary on the Koch Brothers and they gave me a flash back (to my years working) as to how Corporate America and Government actually work hand in hand against the poor and middle class. If Romney does get elected I’m sure he’ll spend the next 4 years flip flopping and blaming Obama for a mess that started way before he took office. It would be nice if they could all just get along! No matter who is in office. Guess since they are all rich it’s easier to continue getting richer and blaming each other for a mess they really don’t want to clean up! Like I said, time will tell.

“Mitt Romney’s first answer — I felt like he was staring into my soul, just right through me, when he was asking me the question. I felt like, you know he offered me a job five minutes into the debate, I felt like his answer was sincere,” Epstein said. “And then when the president came up, I felt like he, you know he started up by saying my future’s bright — I feel like they were both sincere. They talked very well, eloquently, and I felt they both gave good answers.”

His interaction with the candidates quickly sparked a wave of discussion about him on social media, with the hashtag #jeremy trending before the debate was over.

Epstein said he also spoke to both candidates after the debate. He said Romney thanked him for the question.

“I asked him if he’s gonna give me that job in two years and he said ‘Maybe,’” Epstein said. “Then I was speaking with President Obama asking how his Chicago Bulls are gonna do, because they lost their MVP Derek Rose, and he said that I could not beat him in one-on-one, but I disagree with that.”

I'm thinking Jeremy won't be getting a job from Governor Ronmey :)

So, almost a full day has gone by and NO ONE has answered the questions I posed in my first comment: Is anyone out there paying less for gas today than they did 4 years ago? Is anyone's real estate taxes less than they were 4 years ago? Has anyone's home value increased over the past 4 years? Are your health benefits costing less than 4 years ago. And for those of you getting a paycheck, are your tax deductions less than they were 4 years ago? If anyone can say "yes" to all of these questions, please let me know, I'd like to move in with you... And finally, If your boss promised you a better job, better healthcare, a better salary, etc., and every year for 4 years blamed someone else for not coming through for you, would you nominate him/her to be President of the company? Or, if you hired an employee because he/she promised to increase business revenue, get better health insurance rates for all employees, etc., and every year for 4 years blamed someone else for not being able to do his/her job, would you promote him to President of your company?

Where'sTheInvestigation4Republican Voter Fraud Person Nathan Spruill? Republicans were outraged at the Democratic Organization Acorn which discovered it's own internal problem Yet no outrage from the Republicans when Consultant Nathan Spruill, the former head of GOP for Arizona was caught with questionable voter registrations.
The Republicans apparently are only outraged at voter fraud when they think it's a Democratic organization. What Phonies!

I watched the debate Monday night; President Obama sunk Romney’s boat *(laughing)* Say what you believe as to who won the debate but all the polls are in including CBS and they all agree that The President won hands down.

For those that didn't like obama talking down to Romney, if a neanderthal comes up to a modern man with two sticks telling him how best to light a fire and persisting therefore he should be the leader of the tribe. would the modern man pulling out his lighter laugh and mock him in front of the others? It is sad it has to even be so. Obama, like half or more of the population. ie critically thinking people, think it's ludicrous and no longer funny that anybody would be considering this liar and deceiver as the free worlds leader. I'm sure there are plenty of better choices and smarter men then Obama but apparently they either are too busy raking in the cash or don't have the connection$ to make it happen. Ask all the better Third party nominees being past by through out history even today.

OBAMA!!!!

I heard a fox pundit giving praise to how Obama has restored the stock market and brought us back from the brink of economic collapse. You reps know your in trouble when Neil Cavuto was silent and agreed with one of his own that Obama has catually saved us from the likes of Mitt and his Koch brother types uncontrolled wreckless and wrong looting of the global economies. Now you all wanna let the vultures that just picked your kids bones clean back in? WOW! You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can fool you greedy concede reps all of the time. How our pride commeth before our fall from God's good graces. We should have learned this long ago. Oh, that's right we did but how soon and often we forget.

ColoradoRepublGesslerSuppressingVotes!

I maintain several academic degrees, one in History. Not to imply that my academic documents elevates me to a prodigy or does it give my opinion any more weight than yours but I can assure you that a Romney victory will destroy the poor, the working class and women and possibly get us into another war. His administration will reinstate the military draft and this time it will be gender neutral; everybody goes to war! If you think things are bad now just wait until Romney is in office.

Does anyone notice how Lincoln still remains a subject for popular culture as witnessed by Bill O'Reilly book "Killing Lincoln" and Steven Speilberg's new film? I think our times are an historical re-run and the divisiveness expressed by differing views for Rep. vs Dem in a small way echo the Civil War era where the country was also at odds. What seems to be at odds here is survival of the middle class vs. Big Corporate interests. Anyone who can vote Republican IMO is out of their cotton picking minds.

It would seem, that you monkeys want to believe in dreams, in all your selfish schems, that you've been sent from above, not as messenger sent from a dove, but to be the conquerer of the rest, because you think you're all the best, judge others less worth then you, we'll soon find out if that is true, and when you worth is not sufficent, you'll again claim it was them that was defienct, but all your good books speak of humility, your pride is what brings no tranquility, you think you're worthy of surivial, because you beat all your revils, from your God you've all been sent, to give all others hell's bent, but in the end you all will knee, because we've all been the devils heel, when the higher power judges, you'll hold no other grudges, of claiming you are the best, cause you'll be in peril, just like the rest. and once again you'll confess, your heart beating through your chest. upon your death bed you'll all confess. you're just as guilty as the rest. so wake up now before your death, and all your sins confess, because when you meet your maker, don't all be the same old faker, to think you deserve salvation for your works, less God judges you all just jerks, he's seen you all in the past and you won't have life everlast.

Hey KC, I like your thinking. of good old able lincoln, you think he fought to free just black slaves? then you too be just a naive. He fought that war to free us all, because under corruption we all fall, under the sick few we pay the price, of all the chosen few's greedy vice., of sitting on top of this pyramid scheme. the exodus was to break leave this scene, far behind man's foolish pride, to end the pharoah's free ride, of enslaving us all under our fellow, less we all say hello to our hell, Oh!, please god forgive us for our vanity, we all on our knees enter our plea. give us all just one more chance, and looking back we will not glance. we'll never go back to our evil ways, till our last and dying days, for we have seen the error of our old ways, and wish back our better days, when we were humble and in love, for our fellow man and our father above.

Spooner, if you can't take the historical truth about the racist roots of the Democratic Party, that's not my problem.

The truth and documented historical facts are on my side -- and based on your long string of personal attacks against me, it angers you.

Life isn't fair, Spooner -- get over it.

OK, Thomas A. Blasi, let's see you flex those academic degress, OK?

1) Define: "destroy the poor, the working class and women". Are you saying that Romney is going to engage in genocide? Please tell us exactly how Romney, single-handedly, is going to harm poor, working class, and women. You know, lay some of that cause and effect stuff on us.

2) Define "get us into another war". Are you saying there is going to be a formal declaration of war that will be presented by Romney to both houses? (BTW: Obama still has swarms of "American" mercenaries in Iraq -- and we're still engaged in Afghanistan and using proxies to attack Syria. So are you saying we have "peace" under Obama?)

3) Tell us exactly how Romney is going to single-handedly reinstate the draft so that women are included. Is he going to bypass Congress the way Obama does with "executive orders"?

RE:" Thomas A. Blasi 11:32 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 I maintain several academic degrees, one in History. Not to imply that my academic documents elevates me to a prodigy or does it give my opinion any more weight than yours but I can assure you that a Romney victory will destroy the poor, the working class and women and possibly get us into another war. His administration will reinstate the military draft and this time it will be gender neutral; everybody goes to war! If you think things are bad now just wait until Romney is in office."

Regarding the draft and/or national service, Thomas A. Blasi, would you care to me if the Obama Administration opposed the following bill?

"H.R. 5741 - To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes."

If you're so worried about Romney and a draft, Thomas A. Blasi, why weren't you complaining about "SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS" that was buried in "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" (aka Obamacare)?

(Note to Thomas A. Blasi: I'm not trying to be mean, but I frankly feel you have no idea what I'm talking about in this post, do you?)

Mattie, Regarding your claim of illegals not using entitlements available to U.S. citizens. You are 1/2 right. Illegals can not collect things like food stamps, cash grants, medicaid, etc. However, illegals with children almost always have these children after they come into the U.S. Few enter with small children. So their children are eligible for everything. The parent is not on the grant but can come in apply for and manage entitlements. So an illegal mom with 3 kids would get food stamps for 3 instead of 4 people. Then there is public education. All illegal children receive "free" schools. Then any child or adult can go to the E.R. room for medical services. BTW, I have no problem with any of the above. But I don't like the left's phony claims regarding entitlements and certainly understand the concerns of those who are burdened by left's never ending quest to be everything to everybody.
I know what I'm talking about. I have 32+ years as a social worker dealing with these programs and the population they are supposed to help.
The real abuse is from generations of U.S. citizens enslaved by the system and Obama expanding programs by relaxing requirements. Which I'm sure they will thank him for on election day. These are the people Romney was talking about.
Got to go. I have to make money to pay taxes so I can share it with the above.

For the record:

FACT: Southern Democrats, with no endorsement by the Republican Party, supported the formation and continuity of the Ku Klux Klan. Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Confederate officer, was a Democrat and the first leader of the KKK.

FACT: Democrats used the KKK in the South as a terrorist organization to kill, injure, and harass freed slaves who were granted full citizenship under the 13th and 14th Amendment.

FACT: Democrats in the House and Senate overwhelmingly opposed the 13th and 14th Amendment.

FACT: Democrat Woodrow Wilson, as President of Princeton University REFUSED to support African Americans to attend Princeton University.

FACT: Democrat Woodrow Wilson, as President of United States, gave overt and public support to D.W. Griffith's racist film, "Birth of a Nation". The film portrayed the KKK as heros that protected the South from freed slaves.

FACT: Democrat Woodrow Wilson, as President of United States, refused to recognize African Americans as people deserving of human rights recognition.

FACT: Democrat Woodrow Wilson, as President of United States, instituted massive, sweeping segregation withing the federal government against African Americans. His policies fostered "Jim Crow" laws across federal, state, and local governments -- thus unraveling the civil rights legislation championed by the Republican Party.

Hey, any Libertarian voters out there...
Gary Johnson closed out the debate amongst the non-mainstream candidates with this unintelligible phrase:
“Wasting your vote is voting for somebody that you don’t believe in. That’s wasting your vote. I’m asking everybody here, I’m asking everybody watching this nationwide to waste your vote on me.”
I'm sure he meant something other than what he actually said but it's ironic that he said exactly what he would deny and what many others assert, that a vote for Gary is a wasted vote. Comments?

Well Mattie -- Someone made the comment that my posts documenting (with solid facts) Democrats to 100 years of racist practices (against African Americans) and 60 years of borderline misogynistic practices (blocking the right of women to vote) was not true.

Are you saying I am posting lies?

Here's one for you Mattie:

* Would you challenge my claim that the American clergy played a significant role in the American Revolution -- thus turning the Democrats efforts to erase the Christian roots of American government on its head?

I'm wondering how much John Jay gets paid per posting. Apparently quantity outweighs content when it comes WHAT he posts. He's been very busy around the Patch/es these last few weeks -- must be adding to his future Medicare vouchers....

I've been told the going rate is 5 - 10 cents a post. I guess it adds up, right?

Engaging in personal attacks against me, Mattie? The moderator/editor of the Patch doesn't like that.

Why do Democrats here deny the KKK was formed by Southern Democrats? The Southern Democrat/KKK alliance was used to terrorize freed slaves and Republicans involved in Reconstruction and the enforcement of the Republican-backed 13th and 14th Amendment.

Eggs-n-Toast :

1) People are engaging in personal attacks against me here. I am entitled to reply in any manner that falls within the Patch's policy.

2) You're neither the moderator of what gets posted here nor my keeper...I just thought I'd remind you of your status.

RE: "Eggs-n-Toast 10:59 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 Stick to the topic, John Jay: The last debate."

That wasn't nice, Mattie... we all have our opinions, politically, but insulting each other because of our opinions doesn't change anything. Since no one has responded to the questions of lower gas prices, lower real estate taxes, lower tax deductions on paychecks, lower utility prices, lower health care costs, and increased home values; all over the past 4 years, I can only presume that the answer is "no", and yet many of you are willing to re-elect the same person to another 4 years after reeling back on all of his campaign promises 4 years ago. Finger pointing and blaming previous administrations for the problems, doesn't fix the problems. It's time to fix the problems and stop whining about them. If I hired an employee based on what they promised to do and what his/her resume projected about them, and after 4 years didn't perform up to those promises and instead blamed others for their lack of performance, that person would be let go. All the historical and "factual" rhetoric doesn't mean anything - we're in the here and now, deal with it. If you are willing to climb your way out of your political party entrenchments, maybe you'll find today's reality. BTW, I'm a registered Democrat...

Spooner - have you seen the commercial on television, where the girl tells the guy about something she read and believed because it was on the internet, and that because it was on the internet it was "true" - because she read that on the internet too? Then her date "a French model she met on the internet" shows up, and he's a slug who can barely pronounce "bon jour". What I'm saying is don't just use the internet stats that you can pick and choose from to support your claims. Do the in-depth research over the past 8 years, year for year. (I have a research PhD, so it's my thing.) But anyone can do a little (well really a lot of) digging in all of the unbiased resource repositories, and when you put the pieces of those puzzles together, you will find your information is absolutely incorrect. Carefully manipulated smoke screens provided by so-called reliable internet and media outlets can be a very dangerous thing! It takes a lot of effort to dig down to the truth, and most people don't want to be bothered with that because it's too time consuming so they "ass-u-me" what they pick off the internet or hear on most of their TV screens is the "truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth"... I suggest you read the book "The Tack Racket - Government Extortion from A-Z" by Martin L. Gross; not so much because I believe it's the gospel truth - I can't say that for sure - but just to start a thought process that may encourage you to delve deeper into fact checking.