Township to Tackle Condo Crime Concerns
Meetings will be held to gather ideas on how to reduce violence
One of the township's next steps in an effort to reduce violence in a number of multi-family housing developments will be a town-hall style meeting which will include a discussion on how to combat crime and other issues.
Though a date has yet to be set, Mayor Stephen C. Acropolis said a meeting will be held as part of a wider effort to reduce violence in several of the township's condominium complexes. Acropolis said he has already hosted meetings with members of condominium associations.
Another part of the effort to reduce crime was reinstituting the Brick Police Department's Selective Enforcement Team, or SET Team, as it is often called. The specialized unit is tasked with combating drug and gang activity. Police Chief Nils R. Bergquist has said drug activity is the driver of the majority of the township's property crime.
Condominium complexes in the township have had the dubious distinction of being the sites of several violent incidents in recent months.
In April, police investigated a stabbing in the Maple Leaf Park development off Herbertsville Road. Last month, police arrested a man involved in an assault on a female there. In February of this year, a woman was robbed and cut while walking along Herbertsville Road near Maple Avenue, adjacent to the same development.
Other condominium complexes have also made news in recent years. Police have identified gang graffiti painted outside the Cedar Gardens complex off Cedar Bridge Road, and last year, several people suspected of being rival gang members engaged in a fight at a complex off Van Zile Road.
Perhaps the most high profile incident that has taken place in a Brick complex was the 2005 arrest of William Sosa, leader of the Philadelphia Latin Kings, who was found to be living in Sutton Village. Sosa, nicknamed "King Homicide," is now serving a life sentence in a federal prison.
"Residents of these developments are tired of seeing police lights outside their windows. They are tired of feeling scared in their own homes," said Acropolis.
The next planned meeting will involve the mayor, police chief, members of the township council's public safety committee and representatives from the condominium associations.
The meeting will cover ways to combat drug and gang activity, and provide a forum for the group to "discuss what avenues are available to the township and the condo associations to combat these problems," a statement from the township said.
After that meeting, a public, "town hall" style meeting will be planned aimed at hearing the concerns of residents.
Quah
8:09 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
What complex is located off Van Zile?
Callaspade Aspade
2:44 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
burnt tavern manor
JHill
8:24 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Maybe have police sub stations in the complexes like they do in large cities? The space could be donated by the condo associations.
Mama K.
8:27 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Burnt Tavern Manor and Kentwood Village are both off of Van Zile.
lion
8:33 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Unfortunately these types of complexes in many towns attract undesirable people. There are plenty of decent people there too, but it does attract an element of transients who cause problems. All the cops can really do is increase patrol and hope that by their presence the crime goes down.
Bowie Thelonius
8:44 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Since it seems unlikely that the troublemakers are homeowners in these complexes, perhaps it's time to find out who the landlords are that are renting to them.
SoylentGreen
12:48 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Landlords, more like slumlords. Many of the units in Maple Leaf were bought up with the express intent to rent and rent cheap.
lion
8:48 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Yea, but they can't really make the landlords not rent to people just because they are dirtbags or their friends are. Idk, I just feel bad for the people who live there who are decent people.
JD
9:29 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Install cameras...
I've been an advocate for installing cameras in hot spots instead of increasing the police force.
Cameras are used in many cities and towns.... studies show they are a police force multiplier... they are a crime deterent... and used to solve crimes.
Cameras are wired up and send via internet to the police station whereby a person can be monitoring all the cameras.. The cameras are mobile.. as it can be moved to different locations.
gail sands
10:00 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Cameras seem like a logical thing to use, but do we still have those folks who feel like their privacy comes to issue. Look in NY how many times suspects have been seen while commiting a crime and then arrested. Police can't be all over at one time.
Vocalgal4hire
8:29 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Cameras were in the process of being installed late this past winter/early spring at Maple Leaf, and then the project came to a grinding halt. I have no idea if our Association plans to resurrect it and get the job done. All I know is, I wish those folks would just do it and get it overwith.
Joe D
9:41 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Cameras seem like a great idea. Residents that are more concerned about their security will compromise some privacy, especially for the safety and security of their children. It's very sad that children have to be exposed to these environments.
Deb
10:06 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
I agree with the camera idea, wired to the police station! Also more police prescense. If something is not done about these areas... It will only get worse!! It must be controlled now.
Vocalgal4hire
8:30 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Deb: See my reply above.
Mrgrumpass
10:45 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
The problem cannot be combated, the problem is the people who own these condos they are the money people from Lakewood and other towns and cities where this group of investors live, and can I make it any more direct? They have the right to buy where ever they like and I defend that right, the only problem with it is they don’t care who they rent to, and possibly they import problems to bring down the value of property in these areas to control all the apartments, in NYC this is called block busting and it is illegal. Can we stop this Lakewood invasion, only if the town would condemn all the properties in the development and create housing for the elderly?
Don Mulvey
3:31 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Mr. You hit the nail on the head, I have been saying this for years. Pay attention people soon Brick will be just like Lakewood if this pattern continues. Just look around the local box stores to see how our town is changing.
Vocalgal4hire
8:31 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Grumpass: You have a really negative attitude, you know that?
BrickAmericanMan
8:48 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
the lakewood suit gangs are the problem and we all know it. Driving the price down and then Section 8 and repeat. Those smelly top hat wearing clowns only care about their own gain.
lion
10:47 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Cameras are a good idea, unless ppl start vandalizing and disabling them. It would be a deterrent I would think.
Vocalgal4hire
8:32 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Lion: Cameras that were in the process of being installed were supposed to be on top of the roof in a number of locations on each building.
TJP
11:52 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
How bout the TWP Police just patrol in these condos much more. I have been told by Twp cops that they just avoid patroling in those places unless called upon. Too much trash is moving in, MapleLeaf is absolutely terrible IMO. You dont have to think to hard to figure out why either. Gang members etc.....everybody knows it yet nothing is done. How bout our tax dollars and high salaries start getting earned. It was fine and dandy when we were considered one of the "SAFEST" cities, well now its not. Do something about it......
lion
12:05 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Yea, and that safest city thing was just a few years ago....oh, how things have changed.
ship of fools
12:07 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
calling them condo's is a joke - pot leaf park or maplewood park has only gotten worse since i once lived there
betterdays
12:11 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
How about putting up security booths/gates to enter and exit these developments, like they do in the senior communities? Everyone who enters and exits has to provide their name and who they are visiting, or have a pass card.
noname
12:31 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
I live across the street from evergreen woods. I see the police going in there all the time! It's this a problem complex too?
Clown Baby
5:27 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Not really, well not yet anyway. I mean I'm sure there are issues however a lot of cops hang out in Evergreen catching speeders for easy tickets. Gotta make those monthly numbers!
David Fischer
9:58 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
I live in Evergreen Woods and I do not see any of the crime here that is being reported in the other condo-complexes.
As for the police, our association pays for the police to patrol Evergreen Woods. Perhaps the other associations should do the same.
Anthony
12:38 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
I won't be able to make the meeting, so here's my suggestion. Kick everybody out of Maple Leaf, throw the owners in jail, and burn it down.
Vocalgal4hire
6:11 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Anthony,
Your suggestion is unfair, unreasonable and, above all, an insult to decent, law-abiding Maple Leaf Park residents like my husband and me. Besides, who do you think the winners would be if your suggestion became a reality? Troublemakers are looking for a way to get an upper hand in our little community. Personally, I don't want that to happen, and I think there are plenty of other people who agree.
My husband has lived in this complex since 1991. He has seen it go through many changes since then. I joined him here seven years ago. Both he and I would love to move to a better location but can't afford to move out. We're just trying to do the best we can given what's happening around us.
I hope and pray for a workable solution to the challenges that lie before us.
Callaspade Aspade
2:47 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
could not have said it better myself!!
SoylentGreen
12:51 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Put a security fence around the whole place and make it like "Escape from NY" Dump all the undesirables there and don't let them leave.
Momma T
2:18 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
It's about time!!!
CShorShell
2:45 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Many towns all over the state have condo/townhouse developments and they aren't all dumps. Unfortunately, many, if not most, of Brick's condo developments are dumps. Increased security and police presence is a given. But, I also think the Condo association is going to have to jack up their condo fees. Granted, I know this hurts a number of innocent people and it could be detrimental to those people particularly in this economy, but I am not sure what else can be done. If the condo association doubles their fees, the landlords will pass it off to their tenants. When the rent goes up, hopefully it will begin to weed out some of the garbage. A security gate at each entrance and exit would help, where people have to sign in and out, just like in a gated community. However, that would cost serious money. But, again increased condo fees could cover this expense. Cameras are a must....but the better quality/discreet ones so they go unnoticed. The bottom line is whatever action is decided on, it's going to cost serious money to clean up those joints. The truth of the matter is, the town has to put serious pressure on the condo association, b/c they are the ones with the control of the rules and regulations of the complete, issuing fines, and putting pressure on the landlords.
CShorShell
2:48 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Oh and another thing to think about......laws protect the renter, but their is very little that protects the landlord. Evicting tenants is a VERY long and difficult process. Perhaps some changes need to be made our state reps. to change this.
CShorShell
2:48 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
* BY our state reps...
none of yobusiness
3:38 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
How about just sitting a cop in these complexes on a Friday and Saturday night. Make them stop people and question their business of being there. I also agree the cause is those men in black from Lakewood this is their M.O. They will buy up fill them with undesirables so all sell then they will drive out the undesirables to surrounding areas. Then the whole neighborhood will wear top hats and drive mini vans.
Vocalgal4hire
8:35 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
That's already been done, None.
Clown Baby
5:28 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
I love all the racist code words "lakewood men in black"
clamdigger
6:21 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
the only real hope would be to claim Eminent Domain, bulldoze the entire area and make it something of a useful nature. I'm not sure if the property could then be resold after claiming E.D., but that could work to build a normal neighborhood if sold to a developer and if we could prove the (new) tax rateables would be for the good of the town.
none of yobusiness
6:53 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Clown baby there is nothing racist about it. I am describing the hadsidic jewish men who are buying a large majority of maple leaf. They are men that dress predominatly in black. My guess is you are amongst the growing population of overly sensitive and extremely politically correct people. Toughen up and stay focused on the real problem.
Clown Baby
10:20 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
So what you are saying is the real problems are the Jews?
I'm not politically correct, what I'm telling you to do sir is own your racism. You're clearly a racist, just own it.
Anthony
7:29 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
vocalgal4hire, obviously I wasn't being serious about burning the place down. There are plenty of other places you could afford. Waterside isnt bad, and it's not filled with criminals.
MARWG
7:49 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Lakewood has moved to Brick....plain and simple.Same things go for the rental properties that continue to pop up in our neighborhoods ,as families faced with foreclosure walk away leaving speculators and banks with these properties.Drive down Jordan Road and check-out the eyesore there.Same holds true for RT 88 and the properties there.Remember when Wenkes Cabins/motel was a family vacation spot...what is it now??.
Mary Mary
10:28 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
I grew up in Point Pleasant, Wemke's has been a shithole for at least 40 years. If you remember it being a family vacation spot you must be 60+ with a great memory !!! Haha....seriously I am 47 and dont remember it ever not being a dump. Although now rather than close its doors I believe they are taking Section 8 money.
RCL67
7:52 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
My mom was here at ML for 25 years before she passed. Now I am here for the time being. I spoke to our new management a few times. This past Spring, they installed cameras. They are working ! They were able to assist the police in 2 break ins. Also, when a renter destroys property, they are handing the bill right to the landlord. That , along with some of the trouble makers moving out and more police present, activity has gone down where I am. The majority of the landlords are , yes live in Lakewood , and they do not care as long as they get their Section 8 check ( which is $1400 a month one told me ). We had horrible a management company running this place for 8 years, now new mngt has taken over and they are not putting up with anything. You think cameras invade your privacy? To BAD! Please do not raise our Homeowner Fees. It is high enough. I live with renters and I wouldn't trade them for anything ! Wonderful people ! People call these troublemakers ' the element'. Got news for you , they are everywhere and it is about time our Mayor did something about it.
brick strong
7:55 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Those condo's have been a problem for years ..And I am happy that the Mayor has opened his eyes and admitted that there is a problem when in the past President and Mayor said there wasn't any problems..Police station in the condo's is the only answer that will stop this the fastest ..Go get the the trash out of those condo's..
Lil'DragonMom
8:13 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
What if those who are buying with the intent to rent, can not rent the unit until it has been owned/ their primary residence for a set number of years. This would keep out undesirable investors, and benefit those who are homeowners and long term investors.
Jim
8:18 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
The lakewood faction is responsible for this. Go drive County Line Rd where the Raintree development is. That used to be a nice neighborhood. If a few short years the men in black turned it into Mexico city. Coming here soon.
Just picture your pretty Princeton Ave mansions surrouneded by dented Buicks and hasidics.
Jerseyclone
8:48 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Watch the back gate because Lakewood faction is buying brick big time. The next thing half the residential property will be off the tax rolls because it is a church or school.l
clamdigger
9:20 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
it wont start w/ Princeton Ave, but with the older neighborhoods. SkyManor, Midstreams, Arrowhead, Presidents Streets. Areas near schools,parks,walking distance to shopping. Since the parks have been re-done, everyone I know that lives near a playground says they have all seen an increase of the Lakewood folks spending hours there.
ginny
12:49 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
We just sold our house on the President streets at a loss but we are getting out because we can see the righting on the wall.
WMS826
9:41 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
I heard the Lakewood home depot will close soon to tear that shopping center down and make it a Hasidic apartment complex. The plan is for lakewood to grow to 210 thousand people as published in the asbury park press last December. The state has signed off on this and already they are close to 100 thousand people n Lakewood. They are pushing the nn hasidics out to the surrounding towns. Low real estate prices are fueling this.
gail sands
3:48 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Why if those stores are paying their r/e taxes and people work would they tear down the entire shopping center? NOt saying it isn't true, but I dont understand that reasoning. Thought the Lakewood folks were spreading more out into Jackson!
Jim
10:53 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Toms River, Howell, and Jackson are also under assault. They tried to build a temple downtown and some concerned business people preempted the purchase. Once Brick falls Point will follow.
I feel sorry for the decent folks that live in Maple Leaf. You got block busted. I witnessed it first hand in Lakewood and know how quickly long established neighborhoods turn bad.
Might be time to start having Mass in the backyard.
ROSE
12:06 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
I tried to buy a condo there a few years back the mortgage co wanted 30% down. Hello If I had 30% down I wouldn't move into that neighborhood. It should be if you can't prove where your income comes from you can rent. I am sure many people paying by cash and landlords dont care where the money come's from as long as they get the rent.
I'm Constipated
12:21 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
It's the republicans fault. Conservatives hate minorities and the poor.
type writer
8:13 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
I hear there is a thriving Choom business going on in these places. See, I have created jobs.
RCL67
12:09 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Dan ~ please keep us updated about this issue and let us know when the meeting is. Thank you so much ! People of Brick ~ please come out and make your voices heard about this issue. If not, Brick will get worse !
none of yobusiness
5:20 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Hey clown baby if you were robbed by a man or group of men that resembled hasidic men would you not tell the policeman they looked like hasidics? I definitely have problems with any group of people who come to our country primarily to enjoy our religious freedoms and then not observe Independence Day. Its insulting. If that makes me a racist by using your measurement so be it. I perfer to call myself an American and a I would give my life for this great country.
Clown Baby
5:32 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
So you are in fact saying you're a racist. Whelp, glad that is cleared up!
none of yobusiness
6:11 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
No clown let me be perfectly clear what im saying is your your an asshole!
RCL67
7:53 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
I'll clear that one up ~ the majority of landlords in Maple Leaf are , yes, Jewish. I saw the list of people who rent out their places. The others are peole who are either from Northern Jersey or out of state.
brick strong
11:31 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Tuesday Sheriff dept..and Brick police walking threw condo's in Maple leaf..or the Hood ??
gogo
2:30 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
where is the swat team
gogo
2:34 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
make sure the bring their fly swats.This is central jersey.
gogo
2:35 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
150k a year salary.These cops are babies.
WMS826
7:54 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
This town is not prepared to make this fight, that is for sure. Political correctness will tank Brick. I want take no prisoner state police mentality out there.
Lets start tracking people down who lie about teir address and send kids to school here next.