"Congratulations."

Ok Originally, It was Said that the RED LIGHT Cameras were an Important safety deterrent, for intersections,"Bergquist said red light cameras are designed to make intersections safer by training drivers to obey traffic signals. Over time, fewer tickets are issued as drivers become more aware that a camera is active."
If people are running red lights MORE THAN EVER How does this make the intersection any safer ???? If it's about Public Safety Why not park one of the 20 or so police cars at the intersecyion IN PLAIN SITE with a dummy officer in ? This would make drivers stop RIGHT AWAY !!!
So it Must be that it is Just another form of tax revenue."If the cameras, which are currently legal in New Jersey only in certain municipalities under a pilot program, must be removed, the police budget will take a hit, Bergquist said.
Oh So it;s a PROFIT THING !!!!

"We'd have to make some adjustments in a substantial way in our budget," said Bergquist. "It's something that we're following very closely."

Any stats on how many more/less accidents there have been at the intersection?

Here's how the $cam works. The $camera company lobbyists wave big piles of cash at politicians suggesting there's more for them and their jurisdictions if they contract with the $camera company. The politicians jump at the money, sell out their constituents and lie that its all about safety, not money. The constituents get tired of being hit with all the fines generated by the $cameras and find out that the fines are legally unenforceable as they increasingly quit paying them. Respect for law enforcement and public officials erodes as those same folks begin lying and making empty threats in an attempt to salvage the profitability of the $camera contract which is now losing serious money as people have found out its a fraud. With the $camera contract now being a serious drain on the jurisdiction's budget, the public officials now try to negotiate their way out of the $camera contract but find out that's gonna cost the jurisdiction big piles of taxpayer money. The $camera company now has big piles of tax money and the foolish jurisdiction that signed a contract with them is left to figure out how many public employees must be laid off to cover the $camera company's pay off. This is how the $camera enforcement $cheme has worked in jurisdiction after jurisdiction that has tried it and is now wiser but poorer.

I say keep those cameras going. If possible, put them in as many places as possible. There are way too many irresponsible fools out there down here that shouldn't even be riding a bike, nevermind driving a car! Responsible drivers slowing for a light shouldn't be nearly run over by people behind them racing to run red lights. Go get them Brick PD and throw the book at them!!

These things are seriously the worst.

Best,
Gabrielle LaPorta
Colts Neck

"Township officials have formally projected $200,000 in revenue from Brick's current traffic cameras this year,"

Talk about not thinking before you speak. In one breath they say more tickets then ever being given out, yet their prediction according to the above statement is almost 400,000 less then last year.

You have to love it when the clowns in town hall cant keep their lies straight. Oh and Scott when you answer and tell me your spin, how about telling us WHERE the money goes, because obviously it is not going towards property tax relief like the mayor said it would.

If the township insists on putting one of these red light cameras at Post and 88, get ready for a law suit. Just saying! The money being amassed to fight it will soon surpass what the town will be able to spend on legal fees. Go ahead, spend the money to install them and get ready to spend a lot of more money to keep them there and then finally the money to take them down.

$500,000 taken out of the local taxpayers pockets and sent out of town to a private vampire squid and this helps Brick how ??????

WAKE UP PEOPLE OR YOU ARE GOING TO WAKEUP HOMELESS..............IT IS A ZERO SUM GAME

If the state wants to do something good. TAX the lights income. Let the majority the money go to the state. Then towns like Brick will get next to no $ and then I'll bet the camera's will come down.

if everyone would obay the lights you wont get any tickets its the people thats gets tickets complain becouse thay got cought so you should all grow up....

"Revenue aside, making up for such a level of traffic enforcement would be difficult, Bergquist said. The same level of enforcement by uniformed police officers – 24 hours per day at two intersections – would cost about $3 million."

I don't understand this math. 24 hours of constant enforcement would require three 8 hour shifts of officers. If each officer makes $100k, thats a $300k expense per intersection, per year.

Now, If we multiply the $300k manpower cost per intersection times the two different intersections, we get a total of $600k or so. Even if we bought two new police cruisers to only patrol the red light intersections, our cost is under $800k

How does the Chief get $3 million dollars??? Seems to me he is about $2 million dollars off.

How do 6 full time officers and two police cars equal a $3 million dollar expense???

Any reason why Brick Patch didn't ask him to prove his math??

why are my posts getting removed

Lay off some cops if you want cameras on every corner. I will take my chances with the artificial intelligence.

Not people on this comments forum...I was making a generalization about the ethics of the brick police force and the recreational activites at the local watering hole.

EMN seriously? Why did you spam the same post 10 times. There is no need to do that.

And since you replied to my post with your spam, you need to learn to READ AN COMPREHEND what you read. I SAID I NEVER GOT A TICKET BUT SAW THOSE CAMERAS CAUSE 2 ACCIDENTS. bOTH HAPPENED WHEN THE PERON 1ST IN LINE SLAMMED ON THEIR BREAKS WHEN THE LIGHT TURNED YELLOW.

My problem is the right on red. That is where they are making the Big $$$. Those who are unaware about the cameras, will coast/yield, almost stop but not completely, if no cars are visible and then turn while the light is red. They are the ones getting tickets. I leave for work every morning at 6 am. If there was a camera at the only light I go through leaving Brick each morning, I'd get a ticket everyday. The light is always red, I almost stop completely, but not quite, and turn right while the light is red. Minimal or no cars are in sight. Why would I come to a complete stop? Don't give me it's the law. When a cop is around they wouldn't stop me, because I pretty much stopped, but not a full stop, but the camera catches me and Cha-Ching!

If they wouldn't ticket right on red, I would support red light cameras at every signal.

So everyone is upset because we collected $552k of additional revenue? Or that it was only 58% of what was billed? Or because you are assuming it was a non-deductible tax on our residents? Maybe we could get some facts about the "ticketed" population as to whether or not they were Brick residents instead of speculating? I'm sure those stats are handy to someone, Scott Pezzaras do you have this information?

Oh Goodie! Now we can afford to build Steve's waterpark adventure at Traders Cove.

My concern is the amount of money the township would have to pay American Traffic Solutions for a low number of summonds issued. I'm in favor of the redlight cameras. What drivers don't understand is that the YELLOW Light means slow down and prepare to stop. It's not a speed up signal to beat the light. And a Right Turn on Red is after a FULL Stop and clear traffic.

Remember when you took your driving test and gave you a multiple choice answer to those questions?

I have read that the company can sue to recover projected revenue that doesn't meet the towns projections. What is the breakdown of each ticket issued? Who gets what portion of teh ticket.

You can purchase a spray that can be used over your license plate and when photographed blurs out the number. It works a friend in NY advised me about it. BTW my friend is a policeman.

@Not So dumb
The problem with the intersections most in question is that thety can turn yellow AFTER pssing them when they are green, and actually be red before you get to the other side of the intersecion. Thus, catching you on camera for a ticket...
You cannot have the same time on a yellow light for a triple length intersection as you do for a standard street corner.
This is why it's unjust and wrong...
Go through that ntersection and see how long it takes to go through when there's normal traffic flow... unless you're hitting the light at 50, you can;t make it through fast enough. It can tunr yellow LITERALLY just after passing it, and be solid red half way through!

Let's be realistic......

In Florida people are beating these tickets because under the FL evidence requirements, a camera cannot be cross examined. Are the evidence requirements so different in NJ?

@Brettskey rules are different in Bricktucky

We should go and time the yellow light at Rt 70 & Brick Blvd. now before they shorten it when the camera is turned on.

I'd like to know how, on what & where this revenue is being spent from these tickets.

If people are slamming on their brakes it's likely because they are traveling too fast for the road that the light is controlling. All lights are timed according to the speed limit of the road. It's fairly well proven and tested that IF you are traveling at the speedlimit and approach an intersection as it turns yellow, you WILL be able to safely come to a stop at or before the line for the intersection. However, if you are speeding, say 50 in a 35, the light will seem too short to safely stop causing people to slam on their brakes or run the light. This is due to the drivers speed and not the duration of the light in any way. Example, brick blvd at rt 70 is a 35mph zone. So the yellow light for brick blvd north bound onto rt 70 east bound is fairly short in duration since it's a lower speed and is set by state mandate. NOONE does 35 there, everyone speeds, and everyone runs the light. Obey the speed limit, drive cautiously when approaching an intersection, and prepare to stop if the light is yellow. You will not get a ticket if you are already IN the intersection so quite simply, follow the laws of the road and you're fine.

It's nice to know that a privately owned company makes so much from people just getting by, Brick even gets a cut. Are collisions down or have they just changed to the rear end variety? American Traffic Solutions is getting a big slice of the $377,601 that Brick isn't. Brick's cut should allow the firing of about 2 police officers (since they're not needed to monitor intersections) or the retention of 7 Public Works workers. Of course if you fired 2 police officers then you could support another 7 Public works people, heck if you fired the officers making a quarter million a year we could keep public works.

My two cents.... First, if you run a red light you should get a ticket for obvious reasons (safety and well .... its the law). Just because there isnt a cop there to see it happen doesnt mean someone should "get away with it" and not recieve a summons.
Second, if it produces revenue whether it be a brick resident or out of towner, its still revenue. We need the money.
Some people have complained that some of the timing of the lights is unfair. I live and drive in this town and have NEVER gotten any type of ticket here (or anywhere else for at least 15 years). Please note....I am not (pardon the expression) an old fart behind the wheel either. My mototcycle (a "crotch rocket" type), is my daily driver even through the winter for economic reasons and when the weather is just too foul for me to ride to work I drive a full size pickup. I tend to "zip" around but I also FOLLOW THE LAW.

What a bunch of whiners!
It's fairly simple:
1. Pay attention to the road/traffic signals
2. Drive the appropriate speed as denoted by those big black and white signs with numbers upon them
3. Keep a safe following distance
4. If the light turns yellow, stop if you can safely do so

It's fairly straight-forward and relatively simple.
Nothing is unfair about these cameras. If you get caught, you most likely deserve it because you were not driving safely.
Who cares if the cameras are for safety or a revenue stream?
Obey the law. It's that simple.

@ You Silly People.....

You just don't get it, do you? Have you read what the argument is?
We silly people? YOU stupid people....... Your comments after all that's been said here signifies complete ignorance.
You can't discuss or argue with stupidity......
Best of luck to you!

You, You Sillypeople, are oblivious. Completely oblivious.....

@Jim, just ignore them. Just a clown trying to sway the topic. The fact is we do not know exactly how much revenue these cameras bring in, only what the clowns tell us, AND we have no idea where the revenue goes. Everytime we ask, just like yousillyperson, they change the subject to try and divert the discussion.

@ME..... they are called SHEEP..... A Flock of Sheep......
No thinking of their own.... No questioning...... No common sense.....
The group that says, 'Thank you Sir, may I have another'
They will continue to follow the herd....

"More Red Light Districts are needed as a source of recurring revenue."

So many towns across the country thought red light cameras would be the answer to all their problems and a great stream of revenue, at first this was true and then problems started to arise and many towns and even states banned them. Google red light cameras and read all the stories. There are many more stories in the minus side than the plus. A few of my neighbors who have received those tickets complain that they get them in the mail AFTER the time where they can fight them in court. Is this by design? Seems to me tickets received after the time for plead should be nullified as everyone has the right when charged to plead innocent or guilty. Well how can you if you receive the ticket in the mail after the fact. That to me seems to be where the illegality of the tickets prevail.

I think the Amber signals changes too fast to Red resulting in tickets. It seems you have to hit the brakes hard if the signal turns Amber as your just about to enter the intersection, because you know your not going to make it across in time. This results in people speeding up to make it across before it changes to avoid the ticket. I guess next they will have radar at the intersection to give a speeding ticket.

come on people,dont you have anything better to do with your lives then cry about a stupid traffic camera??? JW from brick--take a break,go outside and take a deep breath before you have heart-attack!!! FLASH POLLUTION-really JW--------

So, if they add more red light cameras, does the Public Works Department get to stay?

Here's some food for thought. in NY there are camera lights on most corners. One day, I was working in the city, made a right turn (on green) perfectly legal, 1 month later I got a red light ticket. Come to find out, the camera was broken and hundreds of people got ticketed. Since they "mail" the ticket 30 days later, who remembers? hundreds of people just mailed in the $50 and moved on with life. I knew I didnt run a red so I challenged it, went to "traffic court" took a vacation day, drove from NJ to NY to sit in a smelly nasty room ALL day. When they finally got to me, they said Opps were sorry, we found out the camera was broken!! our bad!! ticket dismissed. I asked the question, how many people just paid this and didnt challenge it? will you be refunding their money? the answer was, if they come in, we will issue a credit, you will have to complete paperwork and it will take 90-120 days for a refund. REALLY?? what about my vacation day that I lost? I didnt do anything wrong but you made me come here, lose a days pay, get totally aggrevated. They said too bad!! Do you think Bricktown will be different? NOT!!!

Someone decided to hijack my nickname of "me" so i changed my nick so there would be no confusion between myself and the "me" who posted the comment about the nazi's.

Seriously, the powers to be will stop at nothing to bully harass and torment those who oppose their opinions. Very childish.

First of all the length of an amber light is judged by the speed limit of the roadway, the higher the speed limit the longer the amber light. The length of the amber is set by law not by the Townships or by the Camera companies.
All intersections have a solid white line at the entrance to every intersection, if your vehicle has started to cross that line while the light is still amber you will not get a summons.
I have a solution to all of you leadfooted people who do all of the complaining. Learn the traffic laws that you should have studied when you received a license to drive.

This is ridicules, conspiracy, graft, mismanagement, it’s all BS you people have nothing better than to fabricate, have dreams, visions in the clouds of nothing, there are two intersections in town that have red light cams, what’s the bother? Prepare to stop on the yellow, stop on the red, it’s not brain surgery, if you fail to do so your picture gets taken and you receive a summons in the mail, the money from your fine is split between the town and the company that owns and installed the cameras. This allows the roads to safer frees up police officers from court dates and puts money in the town’s coffers. If you get a ticket for running a red light you deserve it your driving a 3000+lbs bullet and you are responsible for its safe use. You people are ridiculous, get out of your house get some fresh air clear the cobwebs out of your brain, the boogie main is not under your bed!

Mrgrumpass, sounds like YOU got it all figured out, just like alot of you on this post. But first, I see what happens when "others" disagree with you, and they have other concerns about these red light cameras. Your answer is "all you have to do is follow the rules!", well try re-reading ARIEN's post, what then? Some of you people think money grows on trees! I've heard that turning on red is a problem, tell me, why can't the TOWN correct that part (and don't tell me because its the law OK). The other thing is why not add another second or two to the yellow light time? Why, because it seems to me that this is ALL about the money, other wise these changes would have been done already.

If I'm correct, I don't think the township has anything to do with setting the time on the traffic lights. Does anyone know if I'm right?

There could be timed boxs, weighed intersections or
movement camera's maybe in place.
Regarding the placement of the new red light camera @ 70 and Brick Blvd.
is it strange that $ 300k was received last week for the same area ?

just re-reading some of these comments, thought I'd clear something that people seem to believe they know. pertaining to the people who all say the camera's take away from actual officers discretion if he was at that intersection, EVERY camera ticket has to be viewed and verified by a police officer in the Traffic Safety dept of brick police. so in reality, if he was not likely to pull you over for it on the road, you're not likely to get a ticket for it from the camera, since the officer is the one actually issuing the ticket.

Also, be mindful when rt 70/brick blvd camera goes up, as brick blvd is a 35 mph zone right there, and the yellow light onto 70 east bound is timed accord to that speed limit, so it is short. since most people dont do 35 there, and are speeding, most people also run the light as they feel they didnt have time to stop, or that the yellow is "too short." in fact it is not too short, you are simply going too fast. as far as you being in the intersection as it turns from yellow to red, and fearing you are going to be cited for running the red as you passed the opposite side while it was red, the camera takes three photos of a vehicle it believes ran a red light; one on its approach to the intersection, one in the intersection, and one as its leaving the intersection. either the company will see you did not in fact run the light, and will not submit the video for officer review, or the police officer will review the video and not issue you a ticket