Tax Cut, Elimination of Public Works Included in Mayor's $82M Budget
Brick's spending plan is now in the hands of the township council
The average Brick homeowner would save about $245 per year if the township council were to enact Mayor Stephen C. Acropolis' proposed 2012 spending plan.
But the savings would come at a cost in the form of the township's public works department – including its 77 employees and public trash and recycling collection services for residents.
Acropolis presented his budget, which totals $82,141,131, to the township council on Tuesday night.
The spending plan would lower the municipal portion of one's property tax bill from 63.6 cents to 55.5 cents per $100 of assessed real property value, and would shave the entire budget by 7.4 percent.
The total amount of money by which taxes would be cut would total $8.6 million, and the average Brick homeowner would see the municipal portion of their tax bill decline from $1,927 to $1,682.
But residents and council members openly expressed disagreement with Acropolis' plan, saying voters approved extra spending in a referendum last year aimed at maintaining public services.
Some members of the public who came to the council's work session Tuesday – there was standing room only at the meeting – wondered if, eventually, a host of outsourced services would cost more than maintaining the DPW work force under the township.
"You cannot provide tax relief without service cuts," Acropolis said. "It's a choice."
Acropolis said 70 percent of New Jersey municipalities currently have privatized trash and recycling pickup, which would be eliminated in Brick if the DPW were to be eliminated.
"You cannot effectively cut taxes without looking at your employees," Acropolis said, adding that health insurance costs have been skyrocketing even though the township employs fewer people than ever before.
Business Administrator Scott Pezarras blamed the health insurance increases on provisions that require specific, higher-priced policies in public employee contracts.
"It's the highest cost we have in Brick Township, bar none. Our healthcare obligation alone for 2012 is $12 million," Acropolis said.
Acropolis said Brick residents demanded tax cuts in November 2011 by voting for a slate of four Democrats who, among other issues, campaigned on tax and spending concerns.
But some residents said Acropolis, who left the meeting after his presentation was finished, had them all wrong.
"Where does the mayor get the information that this is what the public wants?" asked resident Vic Fanelli.
The Effect on Residents
Former Republican Councilman Al Chrobocinski came out against the plan to cut DPW, saying that after some initial good deals, the price for residents to obtain private trash and recycling collection will skyrocket.
"Once you've gotten rid of all of your equipment, and all of your trucks … the vendors come back and they have you over a barrel," Chrobocinski said. "Once you get rid of the Department of Public Works, you no longer have a bargaining tool."
Pezarras said if the council were to adopt the mayor's spending plan and eliminate the DPW, residents would be responsible for contracting with a private hauler. While ordinances would call for each neighborhood to maintain its current 'garbage day,' different neighbors could conceivably contract with different haulers.
As for the current township-owned automated garbage cans issued to residents, the township would most likely do what Barnegat Township did when it switched to privatized service: collect the cans and resell them to another town.
Council President John Ducey said the cost savings is made less clear by the fact that not just garbage collection, but everything from the maintenance of police cars, to pot hole repair, to snow plowing, to street sign making would have to be outsourced. There also would be no one to operate the township recycling center on Ridge Road if the department was eliminated, he said.
"We want to have an opportunity to take a look, and keep those services for our town," Ducey said, calling the mayor's proposal an event that placed the town "back in a crisis."
Unanimous Reaction
Of those members of the public and elected officials who spoke at the meeting, none said they supported the mayor's plan, and nearly all came out squarely against it.
"It's just plain wrong to play politics on the backs of our loyal and dedicated public workers," said Councilman Dan Toth. "Just plain wrong."
"Our residents voted to keep these services intact, and I support that," he said.
Councilwoman Susan Lydecker said she agreed with those who describe the budget proposal as a "political ploy."
Councilman Jim Fozman called for a close look at the proposed budget, and said department heads should provide reports on budgets to the council at a public meeting.
"I am sure some bloated numbers will be found with each one," Fozman said.
"The workers as well as the people of Brick should not have to suffer due to the lack of oversight of the mayor and the previous council," he added.
What Happens Now?
Though the mayor presents a budget from his administration each year, the final decision on the annual spending plan – and, thus, the taxes to support that spending plan – are in the hands of the council.
Now that the budget has been proposed and copies have been provided to each council member, those elected officials will comb through the spending plan. They can accept it as is, add things to it or cut it further. The council has the ability to put the funding for the DPW back into the budget if it chooses.
"If the council decides to increase the budget by 8 cents, those types of things can be put back in the budget," Acropolis said during his presentation.
"The budget is in the council's hands," he said.
pro works baby
5:41 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Fire Juan and Scoot; Cut Salaries and then talk about getting rid of the people who make you look good. Your biting your nose to spite ur face steven!
Common Sense
5:43 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Totally agree
Mike
12:23 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
100% agree!!
BIG BLUE 111
1:33 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Here we go again. Why only DPW what about bloated PD and all other waste
shorecorruption
2:39 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012
Buy one garbage can and put the mayor in it.Call up private contractor to remove.
Common Sense
5:43 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
What a joke, if we do get rid of the DPW and those 77 employees I guess there will be no need for an assistant business administrator. Can someone please explain to me why we pay Mr. Pezarras $174,880 (2010 numbers) and according to APP.com he had 4 public jobs in 2010 for a total $229,132. And Mr. Bellu made $150,000 and according to APP.com he had two public jobs for a total of $152,000, it is people like this that are draining this township. Enough is enough.
Lifetime Resident
10:59 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
To Common sense...well said....Doesn't the mayor have 2 jobs also?
pro works baby
5:45 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Simple math steven, i know your reading!!! Scott; lower ur salary to $1 if you love brick so much and then do whatever you two do with toms river and the pony show. Leave brick tax money out of it!
pro works baby
5:55 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Want some real common sense? LOL in their faces.. Did everyone know that there are 2 administrators in the mechanic shop downstairs in a small office located in public works? Two guys doing the same job sitting at a desk and the other one playing bingo on yahoo.com. Did you know that theirs 3 admins in public works, two that drive around all day and watch ur garbage cans being picked up and the 3rd is sitting in an office county dump slips. Even better, its a guy who drives around who got kicked out of recreation for fighting that checks to see if you recycled? Yea i bet all you tax payers wondered who was sending you those threatening recycling letters! These are the wasteful spending holes that need to be fixed in brick. Why does there need to be 3 people sitting at a desk answering phones making 40+ a year in public works. Dont eliminate everyone in public works, do cuts Steve!. Again before you bite ur nose to spite ur face; site down and think things out over lunch with scott. Scott donate your salary to the township and keep it at one dollar and eliminate your boy jaun.
concerned and informed
12:05 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
about the recreation department, how come they did not get lay-off notices?Mr. Francese makes $100,000 a year to do what exactly? i go to alot of rec events and never see him at anything, and what about parks department? they didn't receive notices either, maybe that is because pezzarras bff , ken mathis, works there, he is another supervisor that does what exactly? we do not need a dircetor , making that much money to oversee 20 people, we could save some money by getting rid of francese and incorporating those departments back into dpw. then mathis, who has the least amount of senority, would be bumped out. pezzarras is trying to save his buddys job by only picking on dpw, how obviuos can he be, get rid of all three of these taxpayer money sucking idiots!!!!!
peaches
10:31 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
START THE CUTTING FROM THE TOP. THEN GO DOWN EACH STEP. BUT DONT FOR GET THE NJEA. THEY SUCK MOST OF US. ALSO SUPERINTENDENTS. THEY ARE THE GREATEST WASTE. STATUS QUE . CAN NO LONGER BE AFFORDED.
Ryan Meyers
5:56 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Ever watch a movie and you just know what the ending is goin to be? I told my neighbors he wouldn't stay and answer questions & take the heat. But it was worth attending just to watch him slither away. Personally I feel we can reduce costs in all departments, which should be considered thru attrition. Outsourcing the DPW might be cost effective day one, but once we're into the process, we'd be at the mercy of whatever company used. Surprised the administration didn't suggest they could secure the lowest price from a company, usig the volume of the entire town and place safe guards in any contract, rather then make each home owner scramble and throw out all this confusion. Probably part of the Mayors game plan. One thing I hope is considered is getting away from pensions. While the township does have an obligation to honor to those with considerable time, some change to a 401k so the burden to the taxpayers needs to be researched. Lets hope this Council treats the employee's and taxpayers fairly.
KC
4:20 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Hey c'mon people wake up! You are starting to sound really un American. Since when is it a disgrace to belong to a union? Do you remember how things were before unions? Since when is it a disgrace to expect to have medical coverage or nervy to want a defined pension plan. I had a 401k and it is a glorified savings account. I am supposed to live the rest of my life on the price of a car! I think a lot of people here are jealous because maybe they didn't get in on those benefits. I myself didn't but that doesn't mean they aren't a good thing. Let's go after the real creeps here. The politicos who allow us to subsidize the third world. The insurance companies and Medicare who will declare things like chemotherapy an "uncoverable expense"! This is happening as we post. The uneducated people and the jealous would have us return to turn of the ninteenth century mores. The town is top heavy no doubt, but the rank and file public works person is not the enemy in my mind, and I do not know any of them nor do I or anyone in my family have employment with them or the town. Think before you post. Sure there is corruption in all entities, but do you really want to leave healthcare and pensions to the good heartedness of corporations? I want America not China.
Reality
5:56 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Township Council - Please immediately propose that ALL, I repeat ALL, Township workers immediately do the following:
1) Contribute substantially to their health coverage.
2) Switch from ancient, cost-prohibitive plans - you know, the ones referred to as Caddilac plans. (These have not existed in the private sector for 20 years now.)
3) Give back at least 3 of their 12 paid holidays.
peaches
9:05 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012
a 401k is good enough for a privet sector , but not a union worker???/ then have your unions pay for your health care. if they refuse its because its too dam expensive. and that's the reality . the state is Broke. it had to come to this.
KC
12:39 am on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Oh yah right, we should use the private sector as our paradigm.
Reality
6:17 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
For what it's worth, here's my idea of utopia:
We would immediately get rid of the last-in, first-out and same-raise-for-all mandates for public-sector workers." When cutbacks need to happen, wouldn't it be nice if the laziest workers were let go? There are many dedicated public workers. They all know who the slackers are. They resent the fact that under civil service rules, these slackers receive the same pay raises each year as they do. The slackers recognize that it is virtually impossible for them to get fired. Wouldn't it be nice if supervisors AND fellow workers could actually have input into who is let go when layoffs need to happen? Wouldn't it be nice if pay raises were based on actual peformance?
Hey, I know this is never going to happen in the foreseeable future, but I can dream, can't I?
Stinger
6:49 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Both are good dreams that need to be said. Weather our town employees want to accept it or not, it’s their future. Unfortunately it will take many battles just like this to accomplish it.
Kevin Calhoun
11:17 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Unfortunately, if this administration could fire anyone they want do you think it would be the laziest? Those are the people they have hired over the past six years at the same salary as people who had worked their for 10-20 years. That's right they brought their friends and family in not at base salaries but at what everyone else was making, that is one problem right there.
peaches
10:34 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
UNIONS PROTECT THE LAZY WORKERS . IN THE REAL WORLD YOU DONT DO YOUR JOB YOUR GONE.
KC
4:32 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
. A society that won't pick up its garbage or take care of its sick and elderly is NOT a society.
peaches
9:07 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012
its all gone too far. too expensive
Resident
6:58 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
This brings me back to when Gov Christie called out the mayor after the huge storms last winter. The mayor failed miserably to have a plan in place and he tried to blame the state, Christie called him out blaming his lack of an effective plan prior to the storms. This sounds like deja-vu, the mayor has no plan except to blame 1 dept for his complete and utter lack of financial planning. Mayor, when is it ever going to be YOUR fault?
peaches
9:08 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012
where is the money coming from.????
Lee
7:02 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Am I reading this right? Would that mean that the garbage collectors will be out of jobs? Also if we source out than are we the homeowners of brick will be paying for our own garbage collection? Also if this is true are we going to have to pay when we take our own garbage to the dumps??
Lazzari
10:53 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Lee if you are talking about the Ridge Rd site it will no longer be ,,,,,,,,,nor will the people who pick up our trash have jobs,,,nor will they be here for snow removal among the many services they provide,,,,,,,out source is Mr A's new solution thinking back to how well outsourcing our snow removal worked in the blizzard think we're going to be in DEEP do-do :-(
Lee
7:04 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Also what is it going to cost us homehowners to pay for our garbage?
JHill
8:38 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
300-400 dollars a year. Just call Waste Managment and ask. Probably cheaper because this was based on them picking up garbage twice a week.
Mike
12:29 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Huh just a thought,, no snow this year!!! what are the fuel,overtime, salt savings that could be applied to the upcoming budget?
Robert
4:57 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
@ jhil, 3-400 dollars a year is cheap. i have family living in hillsbourgh that pay $145.00 per quarter for a smaller can once a week and recycling every other week. so the mayor says we will save around 250.00 per year but can will spend over 500.00 for trash pick up . plus you know they will come back next year for more taxes once they sub out everything else the dpw does around town.
JHill
7:28 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Robert--we don't live in Hillsborogh so that means nothing to us.
They will keep 10-15 DPW workers--they will have to keep some of them.
robert knowles
8:46 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
there are other companies out there besides Waste Management that are cheaper. You should call around. Tri State Carting seems like a good company check them out online www.tristatecarting.com
JHill
12:40 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Thanks Rob. I was using Waste Managment as an example of a big company because apparently people think it will costs thousands of dollars for trash pickup.
peaches
9:11 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012
that's why the unions ,, must compromise more. and not just dig in. no time for stubbornness.
bricklakeriv
7:18 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Council, Save Our Services for garbage and trash services, we voted to keep the services last year.
Suggestions: Hold an Open Brick Budget Crisis Workshop.
Invite citizens and past council members, both sides of the aisle to attend and work on the Brick Budget Crisis.
The Brick Budget Crisis challenge the Mayor gave is to find 8 cents to keep DPW.
Here are two ideas:
1. Restructure and eliminate 2 administrators, highest paid go first, offer to pay health care for early retirement and give them unemployment.
2. Add red light cameras at all major intersections in Brick. Think of the red light cameras as travel road tolls to create revenue.
Everyone who blogs: Post one idea for a solution to the Brick Budget Crisis.
Do not play the blame game, except after you have posted one solution.
After you post one solution, blame the Mayor for crafting the 2012 Brick Budget Crisis.
Reality
7:26 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
"Offer to pay health care for early retirement."
Yup- great suggestion. If you want to increase the budget even more. It is the health care cost that drives the huge budget increases. The Township CANNOT afford to pay full health care for ANY employee who takes early retirement. We CANNOT afford to pay for those retiring under the current rules, let alone those who would retire early.
Ryan Meyers
7:52 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
"Reality" you have to honor pensions to those already retired. Can you imagine the cost of the law suits alone ? Whats next "eminant domain" where the township determines they can turn your property into a higher producing revenue ? Fair but sound contract negioating is a must from future Councils. 401k's are going to have to replace future pensions, so the taxpayers obligations end when the employee retires. Years ago someone bought low and sold it for an huge profit, unfortunately the last buyer had the misfortune of the housing drop. You can't hold the original owner responsible for the change in current conditions can you ?
peaches
9:16 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012
Health care benefits wipe out any savings . the town might have incurred because of no snow this winter. Dont forget Insurance companies keep raising Premiums. because of Obama care. they are preparing them selves. and also, the government forcing Insurance companies to cover children up to the age of 28, and covering preexisting Illness. do you think Insurance co. are going to eat that????
KC
12:43 am on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Just give them unemployment? So pay for them to stay home, rather than pay them to work? There was never a more important time than now, for the unions to "dig in", Gentile.Would you have us all be eight dollar an hour slave wages to your corporations? Some people here make no sense at all. If you think the taxes here are high try living in other parts of the state.
Concerned Citizen
7:22 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
How come the are no layoffs in the police dept
Ryan Meyers
8:01 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Why did they promote a number of Police Officers increasing the budget, just before coming out and saying they needed to lay off 30 or so cops? Why did the Mayor purchase garbage trucks and then come out and say the town needs to remove 77 employee's from DPW ? I'm sure we all could pin point waste. Would love to know how Bando is still employed, after a supposed near termination, if there's any truth to a previous posters claim that 2 cops used to deal drugs and what duties Juan really does perform ?
disgusted homeowner
10:28 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
I think the idea of "SHARED SACRIFICE" does not apply to the members of the PBA. The police in town have not made the sacrifice most other township workers have in the area of contract concessions. Shame on you !!!!!!
peaches
9:18 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012
you cant honor anything if there's no money. the next answer is the town goes Bankrupt .
knarfie
7:31 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Take a look at having retirees pay for a portion of their health costs like private industry is doing. I would like to know how much retirees health benefits are costing the town. It is probably a bundle.
knarfie
7:36 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
So I guess Toth is no longer a loyal follower of Acropolis. I am curious to see what Brando and Sangioviani do. Will they do the right thing or just roll over?
Kevin Calhoun
11:19 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Toth has always been his own man.
lifelonginbrick
7:42 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Don't be fooled into thinking that private garbage service is going to save anyone money. My sister in law lives in an affluent northern NJ 'bedroom' community. About 15 years ago I know her yearly fee was $850+ and going up every year. If you have a heavier than usual garbage day (say for holidays or a party) they will up your fee the next time your contract is calculated. She used to actually bring some of her extra garbage down here to throw out. When I walked in the woodsy trails in her neighborhood I would see random piles of house waste, she explained that people dump in the woods to avoid their fees going up and up. That extra 200+ bucks we will 'save' one time by adopting this 'budget' is a joke. I'm an adult, I don't mind paying for services, trim the fat in the bloated 'admin' jobs in the township and force public employees to contribute towards their health care. It was not taxes that pissed me off but rather the payola and unethical behavior by the GOP council and mayor.
knarfie
7:47 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
You are telling it like it really is.
JHill
8:11 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
15 years ago there was less competition and morre corruption in the garbage business.
In Howell through Waste Management yearly garbage pickup was 108/quarter or around 430 bucks a year. And they picked up garbage twice a week.
Don't believe me? Call them up and tell them you want a quote.
new member
9:25 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
we don't live in a northern community where we have maintenance fees. so you don't make sense
KC
4:54 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I think most of us here and those of us who voted on the referendum agree with you lifelonginbrick. I think maybe our soon to be former administration is grasping at straws. Look to ourselves too - how some of us dispose of junk with no regard to our neighbors. Mattresses, couches and all matter of junk sit for weeks because people won't pick up a phone and call it in. There is no need for it - you can call to arrange a pickup and put it out the night before. Truthfully I never saw junk in the streets up north as I do here. ( I am a twenty six year resident.) I have overheard some refer to it as "piney". I think we all create too much junk waste. Each and everyone of us. How some people choose to dispose of it should be a crime. This is an issue that as another poster pointed out isn't being addressed. If we had to go to privatization for trash - what about junk pickup?? Also, that the unethical behaviors of some in charge are intolerable we can agree. Particularly bloated is the Dept. of Recreation that takes a recycle schedule template and tries to apply it to leaf removal. It doesn't now and never did work. We look at those unsightly bags from September until January. I don't blame the workers I blame the one in charge who refuses to get off of his duff and figure out a schedule that works. (heavily wooded areas should not be last on the list). I don't think we would even care as you point out about the salaries, if those in charge got the job done.
Jim
8:06 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
If a Brick Policeman/woman has a spouse that has health insurance and the Police person chooses not to take insurance they get paid thousands of dollars for not taking it. Eliminate that.
Bob
10:23 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
its the same for ALL Brick Twp. employees, not just the police
Kevin Calhoun
11:25 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The reason I would think is because the township would save a lot of money that way. What incentive would the person have to not take health coverage otherwise? E.g. $10,000+ vs $2,000 for the township and a savings of $8,000 (I am totally making these numbers up but you get the idea)
TimeForChange
8:08 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Fuzzy math in his numbers. The savings to the taxpayer would be approximately $245 in property taxes, however my taxes went up by $470. We were told that the passing of the referendum would be an average of $300 per household (tax increase). That was way off. I can guarantee you that the $245 number is on the high side and we would most likely see LESS than that as a reduction in our tax.
So, if you are "rolling back" the voter approved referendum and claiming that the savings to the budget would be $8.6 million (same number that was used to say that voting on the referendum to exceed the cap), how is it that I would see less than half of my increase?
This guy needs to find the door, walk through it and never look back.
Brick Skeptic
9:22 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Because taxes were raised $13 million last year. The only part of the increase he is rolling back is the increase outside the 2% cap. And if the Mayor gets his way, you will have to pay an extra $400 to a garbage hauler on top of everything else.
JHill
8:13 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I'll take the tax cut please!
Sorry but I can't afford to subsidize these 77 workers and their families. I have my own family that I have bills to pay for!
The private sector has been cutting over the last 4 years.
Bob
10:25 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
nopt much of acut if you get back about $300 but will pay about $400 for the trash n recycling
JHill
10:55 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Wrong. It is not a straight 300 vs 400 dollars.
If the public works dept isn't privatized your taxes are going up again!
Lazzari
11:04 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
JH how long have you lived here? IF, You've been here any amount of time you'd know the cut is not always what it seems ask those of us who have lived our entire adult lives here & raised or are raising families . Also take a look at what we were told just a few short months ago... AND might I add that though I voted against the referendum , I do know that PWD have given & given up,,,,,,so lets look in other areas . Cause it's said don't make it so,,,,,,,,, as the saying goes!!!!
can't say who
8:14 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Hey Steve! You did not mention that Point Pleasant went out for BIDS FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN FOR GARBAGE TO GET THE BEST COST AND HAVE CLOUT IN THE AGREEMENT. Your idea is to throw each and every one of the township residents under the truck and make them negotiate with whoever they can - with no clout OR protection. GET SERIOUS. Get rid of 10% of everybody (EVEN YOUR RELATIVES IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT) It is called share the hurt. NOT GENISIDE TO A GROUP OF 77.
Bob
10:27 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
you forgot to mention the haulers redid their bids after Brick tried to rtake it over and that saved Point alot
brick strong
6:26 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
POINT GOT SMART AND DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH Brick town mayor and its shady deals..good for them ..
new member
9:33 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
simple answer find a trash company get a price per quarter and pay your trash collector and you wont have any problems
peaches
9:25 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012
our taxes will never stop going up. as long as we put out for all these benefits . I cant afford it any more. no raise in 4 years. but everything keeps going up and up and up.
patriotmfd
8:16 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The people cast their vote last year on the garbage collection.. Yes we want and paid for garbage collection……. Now Mr. Major we want you to Govern as the fiscal conservative that you claimed to be when you were elected. There are too many township employees making 6 figures... Reduce spending 10% in each dept and there is your 8 million in savings……. you play the all or nothing game and the people a wise to it…….. Show some courage and reduce waste and unnecessary spending in every dept……yes even the BPD…. we want to keep all hard working town employees BUT the township employees all need to make a little less and pay more for their health care like the rest of us who pay all the bills at Town hall…. The gravy train has run out of gas,,, start by cutting expenses
peaches
9:26 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012
that's tax raise was last year. were in a new year. taxes go up every year. we all know that.
Reality
8:18 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
My best friend's second cousin's in-laws uncle has private garbage collection. He pays $2,000 per year, and the cost is going up to $2,900 next year! And that is for just the smallest size garbage can, not like the large ones most of us Brick Township residents have now. This person lives in one of the most affluent towns in New Jersey. But his neighborhood is full of trash. The people in this affluent town just dump their trash all over the place so they don't have to pay extra for additional garbage pickup. Futher, the residents of this affluent town only have bulk pickup four times a year. So the trails in this affleunt town are full of old washing machines, refrigerators, mattresses, couches, regular trash, etc.!
JHill
8:42 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Haha really. The people so afraid of this "change" are likely the people who have never had private trash collection.
Instead of doing some research and actually doing something they rely on "message board posters" with hidden agendas for their information.
You are obviously on the Internet people--do some research!!!
BW
8:30 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
For someone who is supposed to be a grown up, Steve acts more immature then my 9 year old!
There is an old saying "be careful who you step on,on your way up the ladder, because you will meet the same people on your way down".
lifelonginbrick
8:37 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Jhill "In Howell through Waste Management yearly garbage pickup was 108/quarter or around 430 bucks" - Maybe it's just me but even those costs you are quoting is more than the 245$ we are expected to 'save' and that doesn't even factor in the cost of other lost services such as leaf/snow removal and recycling. Plus the private company has you by the short and curly and can and will continue to raise the cost past the 'honeymoon' phase with them. Seems like some basic math is missing from your point along with an almost childlike trust that the waste removal business in NJ is now run by boyscouts.
JHill
8:50 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Lifelong--pick up the phone and call around if you dont believe me. Unlike you I have a lot more faith in a privately run business to give me a cheaper and better product than some bloated bureaucracy. That is the great part--you get to choose your own garbage collection company. Competition brings better services and lower prices...everyone knows that.
They will never cut all 77 and Acropolis knows that. They will probably end up keeping 10-15 guys for bulk pickup, leaf removal, recycling center staff etc.
The real saving will come down the line as we shed the garabge trucks (plus maintenance & gas costs), pensions payments, salaries, health care costs.
Plus, what are the 77 workers doing? Route 70 is one of the filthiest roads in New Jersey. Trash up and down the whole road--it is a disgrace.
Reality
9:03 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Well said JHill. Route 70, is a state road though, so you can't actually expect Brick Township workers to pick up garbage along that route?! (I think you are smart enough to get my sarcasm here, JHill.) Well, you and I could, but I'm sure the civil service/union rules would prohibit that from happening. The line of thought is something like this. It doesn't matter if Route 70 is a major thoroughfare in Brick; nor does it matter if it is littered with garbage. Since it is a state road, we must leave it to the state workers to clean.
Lifelong - When the 'honeymoon' is over, I am free to switch to any other private carrier. JHill said it best.
Lazzari
11:14 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Life I suspect that JHill is new to our area, I could be wrong,,, this is a town NOT a city. We for the most part pay homeowner Taxes not rent. We can't just up & move when our lease is up. Sometimes I wish I could though. JHill seems to have a better grasp of our system then we old timers??
JHill
12:03 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Laz-I've lived here my whole life but own property in several different towns so I know how different taxes/services etc work.
This is still a town but it won't be for long--it is starting to look more and more like North Jersey every day.
Lazzari
12:44 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I have noticed we seem to be getting a lot of North Jersey attitude here hmmmmmm
Keep our DWP people,,,if JHill owns multiple properties I'm sure you too can afford to keep them so we can continue to have a TOWN where we employ locals. Have you not seen what has happened to our town these past few years?
native52
3:23 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
There is no better service than the service we get now from our Public Works employees
native52
3:25 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Brick trucks are not the only ones to use Rt70. If you look hard enough there are more private co trucks back and forth on Rt70
disgusted homeowner
10:37 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
It's funny how this mayor thinks. He believes Trader's Cove ( a forever moneypit) and its banquet facility and SPRAY PARK are more important than trash and recycling collection. His priorities are totally out of line with that of the average homeowner. Mayor, clean the wax out of your ears and start listening.......... PLEASE!!!!!!
patriotmfd
8:42 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
To the new Democrats on the Council…. as a registered republican I voted for you (well I actually wanted to fire the Republican crew) but please look at the best long term solution the to PWD issue. I do not like this over reaction governing. I think that if all options are on the table the right answer for the township and the PWD employees would be very clear. Please keep politics out of it and make the hard choices that your predecessors could or would not make… Pirate collection may be the answer but it has other issues to consider and would be best run by the town which would have a better bargaining position… I have no problem keeping the PWD but all hard working public employees need to give back some… I am sure that there is also much over head that could be reduced to save money good luck and yes we well be watching
BW
8:56 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
So JHill when can I expect my refund check for the 600 my taxes went up? If you really think, the king is going to lower the taxes if he is allowed to do away with PW, I have some Ocean front property in the Nevada desert you might like!
FYI I called waste management and got a quote of 150 a quarter, for 1 pick up of 1 50 gallon trash can, and that does not include bulk or recycling.
Believe me Steve has something up his sleeve, and pretty soon he or one of his henchmen here on the forum will slip up and let the cat out of the bag.
Harry j frakel
9:02 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
With the hundred's of posts on here about this subject. One thing that I do not get is why there were not more people there last night. There were only a few public that got up and showed up. Considering the DPW thing and the many, many posts on here you would think more people would actually show up.
Joseph Woolston Brick
9:50 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
A lot of people in town have not heard what is happening. When more people are informed as to yet another Acropolis debacle, you can believe there will be a lot more people in attendance. Plus the fact that it's listed as a caucus meeting and not a regular meeting and I'm sure people thought they wouldn't be able to either attend or voice an opinion and are waiting for a regular town session. People don't have to speak, just being there in great numbers speaks louder than words.
KC
11:18 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
When is the next meeting? Where was this advertised? Seriously, I am not being sarcastic, I hear this criticism all of the time but never get an answer. Not everyone in this town is retired. For many it is a bedroom community and people who are working ten and twelve hour days and commuting, (those who don't have jobs w/ the township) often are out of the loop. Don't assume the worst, tell people when there is a meeting please. I think the Patch is an excellent forum for communicating this as Let's be pointed out.
Cosmo
9:05 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Budget is not posted yet on the website. Did we budget sale proceeds of the equipment? Mr. Pezarras do you have any details?
Brick Skeptic
10:02 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Pezarras said the budget won't go on the website until the council makes its changes. It will be over a month before we see this, unless the Mayor and Pezzaras change their tune and actually give us some transparency in this process.
Scott Pezarras
7:27 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Cosmo
It should be up there tonight, and no we did not budget proceeds from sale of equipment. Current budget laws do not allow that because the revenue has not been received before 12-31 of the pre-tax year.
Cosmo
9:19 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Thank you for the response. I noticed the entire department wasn't eliminated. Is there further information on what/who will be retained and the salvage value of equipment that will be obsolete? We should be receiving some proceeds from selling off assets we no longer need.
Scott Pezarras
9:22 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Cosmo
If these things happen they will show up as a result of operations in 2012. The equipment if sold will be done through Gov.Deals.com a State approved vendor.
Cosmo
9:35 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Understood, thank you.
BW
9:11 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Cosmo, they only post the power point on the website, not the line by line. The line by line is usually available at the library. Good luck!
Cosmo
9:47 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Me, whoever you are, the line by line is on the brick twp website to 2011. The current release is not yet there. Look before you speak
Cosmo
10:37 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
This is not a powerpoint presentation. It certainly looks like a line by line budget to me.
http://www.twp.brick.nj.us/library/budget/2011_Budget.pdf
Jim
9:17 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I propose that Princeton Ave residents collectively negotiate with a private hauler. Once we organize on that front we can begin organizing on seceding from the township of Brick. Mantoloking did this over 100 years ago. Its time for us to do the same.
Cosmo
9:43 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Interesting concept Jim
tom coleman
2:44 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
love the idea of organizing to get best price for garbage if lunatic acropolis has his way! seceesion might be a little out there but we could call ourselves village of metedeconk!
Sal Petoia
9:20 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
So let me get this straight.... the average homeowner will save about $245 a year if PW is abolished, but it will cost about $400 to $600 a year for private collection? Wow! Such a deal! Still say officials should seek the following: pay freeze; increasing employee contributions to health care insurance by four percent each year over five years; go to a four day work week with staggered schedules so that positions are covered for all week days; convince employees that if they are not willing to compromise, many will face the possible fate of public works. Better to have less income than no income! The mayor says the current work rules were "negotiated". Maybe the township needs better negotiators.
Kevin Calhoun
11:37 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
If you remember, or can believe what was said last year, the savings from laying off public works has everything to do with the money we pay people to take our garbage once it is collected. Its millions and millions of dollars that you would not see from pay freezes, health contributions etc.
native52
3:43 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Sal TWU did give back their raises last year. Did the police NO
disgusted homeowner
10:43 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Sal, we definately need new negotiators. Just look at the generous contract he gave the police dept. And 7 new police cruisers and ten new officers. What happened to the idea of fiscal restraint? The referendum passed and stevie went on a spending spree!!!!!
10% Tax Cut NOW
9:27 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The Administration can be more creative then this - What are we paying Scott and Juan all these big bucks. To come up with a plan so short sided is unexcusable. Why did vote for the refereandum in the first place. It's for a forensic audit of the entire budget. There is so much waste in this Brick Township Government that cutting 10% across the board should have no inpact on the services that we are owed - that's what are tax dollars are for - it's time for the Mayor to step down if he can't handle the daily function of the position he was voted to do.
Now that the Council has the budget it is theirs to do what is best for our entire Community not the few family freinds the Mayor takes care of.
On a other matter how did Tony Matthews become Interim Executive Director of the
Housing Authority - go figure.
Joseph Woolston Brick
9:31 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Since there will be one less department for the Mayor and his administrators to look after, then there is less work for the Mayor and his administrators to do. So I immediately call for the Mayors position and that of the administrators to be part time and the pay adjusted accordingly. Plain and simple, the more privatization of services, the less people we need in town hall. If we in our neighborhoods have to start taking control of our own garbage and other services, why do we need these six figure people in town hall, when we are doing their jobs ourselves? Hmmm maybe there is something to this plan after all!
KC
11:24 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Maybe we can hire Tony Soprano for waste management. We would probably have fewer headaches and more transparency. Also, did the town just recently purchase used trucks or didn't it? If the dept. was to be eliminated why make the purchase? Can Mr. Pezarras please clarify if that is the case?
Mommyof3
9:56 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Spend, spend, spend! This town just loves to spend! WHY did we vote in April? Didn't it cost us money to have this "special" vote? Weren't we told that we would be good for 4-5 years IF we voted yes? Didn't the town spend all this wasted money on Traders Cove? Didn't the town just spend money on 2 "slightly used" trucks? Wasn't this "magical" amount, $8.6 million the SAME amount in April to KEEP Public Works AND the rec dept, senior services, & cops? I'm sorry, but there's too much wasted spending in this town! After the people voted yes in April, almost every time I turned around, I was reading something that the town was spending money on...like the "extra" money was burning a hole in their pockets! SELL Traders Cove, the Civic Center AND the old Foodtown...NOW!!!!! As for Public Works, start doing your darn job!! FIX the road on Lake Shore Dr & Pinetree!! STOP hanging out at 7/11!! STOP BSing with the neighbors!!
frances
9:01 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
To mommyof3, You are correct in that the "special" vote carried significant expenses. Statute dictates that the cost must be shared between the BOE and the Township. Having reviewed the generated "Computer Resolution" bills which were approved and voted for by the Council majority at a previous Council Meeting, the payment was in excess of $40,000 dollars. That was simply for the cost of placing it on the Ballot (excludes all other associated cost)
Scott Pezarras
1:07 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
KC
The Twp did purchase 3 used trucks from Rumson Fair Haven that have never see the landfill. Our fleet is very old and we have been spending a lot of money repairing it and keeping the trucks on the road. These trucks are going to be used and if solid waste service eliminated the trucks will be sold. The Twp had to act quickly since there were other towns that wanted the trucks. Fair Haven gave us first dibs we purchased at a price that was over $500,000 less than new trucks. If the department is kept this is a winner, plus we still would need to provide service until ordinances were past and people had a chance to get contracts in place. We will use the trucks for that purpose.
lifelonginbrick
10:01 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Jhill - your math with private waste management still does not add up to actuall savings. Thats your plan to have to shop around for a new waste management provider every six months to a year when the intro price expires - honey here aren't THAT MANY waste managed companies out there for that to be a long term solution. Sounds to me like some of you just have a vendetta against public employees. Instead of just chucking everything we can 'lean' down departments and waste and heck I think we can strap a bag to people caught littering to clean up Rt. 70 or any other road. At some point litterbugs should be held accountable and forced to pay.
Oscar Wilde
10:07 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
took you people awhile , but its about time you have Pezzaras and Bellu in your bullseye....Better late than never
FIRE SCOTT PEZZARAS
Oscar Wilde
10:16 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
i dont know why every one isnt for the private garbage ......than everyone gets to pay a fix amount for the same exact service and not based on how big or expensive your house is.......oh wait maybe thats the reason why !!!!!
10% Tax Cut NOW
10:28 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The Administration can be more creative then this - What are we paying Scott and Juan all these big bucks. To come up with a plan so short sided is unexcusable. Why did we vote for the refereandum in the first place. It's TIME for a forensic audit of the entire budget. There is so much waste in this Brick Township Government that cutting 10% across the board should have no inpact on the services that we are owed - that's what are tax dollars are for - it's time for the Mayor to step down if he can't handle the daily function of the position he was voted to do.
Now that the Council has the budget it is theirs to do what is best for our entire Community not the few family freinds the Mayor takes care of.
On a other matter how did Tony Matthews become Interim Executive Director of the
Housing Authority - go figure.
Does anyone know how many Police personal retired and how many have been hired since the referandum was past in April ?
To Mom of 3 there was no additional cost for the balot question last April since it was on the same balot with the Board of Education election .
And one last comment what do you have to say now Scott MacFadden & Kathy LIndenbaum the fund raisers of the Ballot Question - What do you have to say ?
BW
10:28 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Cosmo, think before you speak. The LINE BY LINE is not on the website. What is on the website is the is the basic numbers. Everything summed up. The line by line is well over 100 pages.
If you look real hard, it will give you numbers for income, but not broken down as to where it came from. Will give you expenses, but again not broken down. Believe what you want. Having lived here my whole life, and knowing the mayor since 8 th grade, maybe he has a bridge you can buy from him.
Cosmo
10:38 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
http://www.twp.brick.nj.us/library/budget/2011_Budget.pdf
bths06
11:16 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Cosmo- like scott said last night the 'line by line' budget you are looking for will be posted after it is approved. While I don't agree with it I know that is the way they have been doing it for all the years I can remember.
We will get to see the finished product not the work in progress.
Cosmo
11:47 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Makes sense not to show us every iteration, but we should at least see what the Council is getting to start with. I mean the mayor has sent out 45 day layoff notices already based on what budget? Then we can compare it to what they approve to see if they really did anything. Transparency is beautiful when you can see thru it.
"ME" is that a line by line budget I posted? I may be a stupid benny, but I think I can tell a powerpoint presentation from a pdf file.
Bob
10:34 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I am wiating to hold my judgement on the budget till the Democrats come up with something. They now have the power, the budget, and the documents. Lets see what they come up with. I want to hear from them first. Time to put up or shut up Dems. I'd recommend a seperate forum for them to present it so they can give details and take questions. I think the mayor should do the same. Then we, the public can make an honest assesment
Minimew726
10:38 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Getting budgets from department heads is a joke as well. I wish someone would take a realistic look at each line item from the previous year in each department. Anyone that can read would see the waste. Towards the end of the year departments spend on ridiculous BS just to SPEND DOWN their line item budgets. If they DON'T spend all the money from that year, they get less budgeted for the following year. Could you imagine running your household like that? How about if they didn't spend it it gets carried OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR?
Scott Pezarras
7:46 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Mini
Not true, centalized purchasing sends out a memo in November and monitors every account for this type of spending. If what you say were true, you would see the bill resolutions go up significantly in November and December, that is not the case.
Minimew726
1:59 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
OMG Scott, I am laughing so hard right now. I can't even believe that you are trying to defend that. I didn't say the last 2 months of the year, that might send up red flags to a council paying attention, but IT DOES HAPPEN and starts around September. I HAVE SEEN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So please, don't go there. If you really don't think it is happening go back over the last few years and see what's been approved in departments for the last few years. Also maybe you should see how this "equipment" was used or if it was used AT ALL. You may be surprised at the answer. OH just a FYI ask the employees, not he department heads.
Minimew726
10:39 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Its like the mentality of " how can my checking account be over drawn if I still have checks left?"
Oscar Wilde
10:40 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The 4 democRATS said they were going to lower property taxes......well it looks like all they have to do is agree with the budget.....of course they could lower the property taxes more......Cut the the police 25% AND CUT ADMIN 50%
KC
11:28 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
With all of the recent gang activity I don't think I would be wanting to cut the police. They are the one service this town has that does respond. If you need them, they respond and in my experience very professionally. God bless Brick Twonship's Finest. ( Again, I have no relatives on the force, would be proud if I did).
OceanCounty
10:49 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
What kind of management do we have in this town? The original article "77 Township Workers Given Layoff Notices" gave me the perception that the town would contract with an independent hauler for these services. Now I'm reading us property owners will need to do the contracting. What about recyclables, bulk, etc? The township voted to keep these services in house, so why doesn't the township negotiate with "ALL" the unions to contain benefit costs and raises? Who will maintain township vehicles? The management in this town needs to take a good look in the mirror. You are being paid well to make smart decisions here. Pushing the work and responsibility to contract private trash collection off to the citizens is not a sound management decision, If the township were actually doing their job, they would put a single contract out for bids like Point did instead of having every homeowner contract individually; A single contract would result in lower costs overall to us taxpayers- Ever hear of economies of scale?
Cosmo
12:20 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Well said OceanCounty. They could have even made a few dollars sub contracting it out, but they are not business people.
big rob
10:47 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
ocean county if the town went to private trash services we would not need any one to fix truck we would save tons of MONEY as for bulk take it to the town your self like other towns do its free and if it lowers my taxes then i'm for private trash services
localexpert
10:49 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Go to a INDEPENDENT AUDIT should be the Councils first step.Include ALL positions workers,Adm.Supv. anything that gets a paycheck from our taxpayer money.do away wiith all the frills for the SUMMER.Police Dept. HOW MANY OFFICERShired this past year,How many SGTS. per officer.Reduce the pay of Scott P. and J.B. how MANY SECTY TO SECTY DO WE HAVE IN TOWN HALL?How much does King Stevies secty.make?????? MANY WAYS TO GO AFTER THE REAL GARBAGE BEFORE HURTING 77 PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILIES...We voted yes last year now the KING is telling us NO. To Mr. Gilmore and Cartine. the last election was a plurality of 3to1...THIS will be a LANDSLIDE against any R you put up.Thank your Mayor for that.....
Mrgrumpass
11:04 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
It all has to start with removing Juan! The new council has hired an auditor that cost several thousand more than the previous auditor sounds like it’s time to pay back for those political contributions! We must start looking at them too!
Roseann
5:19 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
30 day notice to Juan, Briggs and several others and you've saved close to half a million in salaries and benefits. Posters have asked why the need to supplement their salaries with stipends and no one has ever addressed that. How many unnecessary employee's take township vehicles home every night ? Gotta love the mayors threat to veto any one shot revenue, because why ?
Michele
9:05 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Roseann-how much do you think Melanie makes?, she is a seasonal employee no benefits no vacation days when the town is closed for a holiday she does not get paid for those days, nor does she get any stipends to her salary. If you want to check out the facts go to the clerks office and Opra it. Get your facts right before you post a comment about anybody
Minimew726
11:04 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Do an independent audit and have the state DESK AUDIT all empyrean to see if they are qualified to hold the position and salary they get. Yes it does have some hidden risks of some people working below their title and the state changes the title and pay scale but I bet so many people would have to change titled and salary because they are so under qualified fir the job they are doing. Also why are people given titles that have NOTHING to do with what they actually do. That's something that needs to be looked into as well.
Scott Pezarras
7:50 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Mini
That is done by civil service. An employee is not made permanent until they qualify for the position under civil service. Once they qualify they have to come out in the top three on the promational list to be appointed.
Minimew726
2:41 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
ROFLMAO. are you serious?????? You can hide behind the Civil Service laws all you want, Scott. I know how it is SUPPOSED to be done, but we BOTH know as does EVERY employee of the TWP that the statement above is complete BS!!!!! Every employee also knows that even if you score the highest on that test (which and employee pays for) the Admin gets to choose which of the top 3 gets the job, not who the best person for the job is. Every employee also knows all they have to do is go to the Civil service site, download the job description they are testing for and go from there. I also know that some employees taking the test have been helped by Town hall, so PLEASE don't try to imply that there is a level playing field for all employees. It has NOTHING to do with WHAT you know but EVERYTHING to do with WHO you know.
Minimew726
2:42 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
What you lack to say about this "permanent appointment" is that an employee can remain on a "PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT" meaning they haven't taken the test yet, FOR YEARS!!!!!!!!!! Having the title and making the salary of that title before the State has even deemed them qualified for it. So PLEASE, spare me
BW
11:24 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Those of you who call public works lazy and claim they get paid more then they are worth, take a ride over to windward beach. For days now, public works has been cutting down trees, removing brush,busting their asses.
So all of you who say lay them off, go over to windward, and do what they are doing, for a lousy 35k per year. I DARE you.
JHill
11:58 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
All 77 of them?
Why not send a few over to Route 70 to pick up the tons of trash that is everywhere?
Joseph Woolston Brick
12:25 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Me
I have lived in Brick for over fifty years. In that time I have not had one problem with DPW except for leaf removal, which seems to be a theme in all the surrounding towns. I've had years of wonderful service from that department, the people that I have dealt with over that time have been professional and gracious. I want to keep them. Now to another subject, people keep attacking the unions. Thanks to my teachers at Brick High way back when, I was encouraged to choose a profession where my employers needed me, more than I needed them. I've only worked for one company that was unionized, and the reason that company had a union was the fact that they treated their employees like shit, no other way to phrase it, all the other companies I have worked for treated us like gold. A place that treats it's employees fairly will NEVER have a union, there's no need. Now could you imagine if the DPW didn't have a union what would be going on there now? One of the reasons Acropolis picks on the DPW is that their union SUCKS. It's weak and management knows it. Someone stated that most of the DPW workers make $35,000 a year, did you know for a family of four living on that amount is considered poverty level by the Federal Government? Would you for $35,000 a year deal with maggots, feces, mold, mildew, and God knows what other hidden biologicals that may affect your health. I bet not.I appreciate every single one of those 77 workers and what they do for my family.
Cosmo
2:03 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
nothing going on at windward. I live across the street
disgusted homeowner
10:53 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Me, check the data universe info. I have a neighbor in DPW, 20 or so yrs. His base pay is listed at $57,000 per year. I have also punched in other employees names that i know and they are all much higher than the 35K you quote. I AM NOT saying they don't deserve it, but many township employees pay is much higher than you think. The data universe site liss their base pay, no overtime included.....
peteypete
11:51 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
it is beyond me why mike doesn't walk across pinewood drive and smack some respect into you.
Minimew726
11:37 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
You know what, Me, you're kind of right. Most people wouldn't do what the folks of PW do on a DAILY basis for that type of money, but that is what the employees signed up for, that and JOB SECURITY. Most PW workers are the hardest workers the township has. Sure there are slackers as pro works baby pointed out. Most of the slackers are the upper management levels. If the guys of PW weren't doing their jobs on a daily basis, trust me you'd know it. This town would be a much bigger dump than it already is.
disgusted homeowner
8:50 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
you could always take a try PP, but you'll be in for one big surprise......... And have a nice day!
Michael
11:46 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
So basically there is no savings and it will cost the average tax payer $70 per year to eliminate the DPW.
I encourage everyone to go to this pdf and see what the monthly cost for the average homeowner to "save our services" versus Steve's projected "savings."
http://www.twp.brick.nj.us/library/Referendum%20Fact%20Sheet%204%204%202011.pdf
Thanks for nothing. Keep the DPW. I want to save money as much as the next person, but stop messing with people's lives.
Oscar Wilde
12:01 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
well that $70 went to the cops who are not getting touched by this even though they benefitted......that $70 also by hiring more cops that are not needed allows them to write many more tickets to pad their salaries, step ups, helath benfefits and pensions, and allows them to retire to florida at age 55 all paid by the taxpayers.....how many cops both active and retired are brick tapayers paying for AND what is the actual dollar amount per year
TIME TO WAKE UP SHEEP AS I AM SURE A RED LIGHT CAMERA FLASH WILL WAKE YOU UP .....
Minimew726
12:02 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Please, Michael, that was propaganda created by the Township to persuade the people of Brick to vote yes to exceed the 2% cap. Those figures are BS. BUT if anyone thinks they will save ANY money by eradicating the DPW they are as dilusional as the Mayor himself. While some of you point out to make calls to find out how much it will cost to get private pickup of your garbage don't forget to get quotes on recycling bulk metal Xmas trees leaves and branches
Bricktown Lew
12:11 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Good thing it has been a very mild winter! I bet if we had blizzards this year, -77 DPW employees would make an even better "winter wonderland" out of this area than last year.
Minimew726
12:27 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
LEW last years debacle was due to mismanagement. They guys were told to stay home until it was too late. Then most if the couldn't get to work due to impassable roadways. Upper management didn't keep an eye on outside vendors that were sent into specific neighborhoods but never showed. Make upper management take the responsibility of that screw up. Not the guys trying to get rid of 36 inches of snow with crap equipment.
Bricktown Lew
12:53 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I totally agree. It was mismanagement BIGTIME! I was just saying that cutting personnel wouldn't help in blizzard situations and (like emergency personnel) people quickly forget how bad things can go until it happens again.
disgusted homeowner
10:57 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Mini, not to mention our plow trucks falling apart from being in a state of disrepair. How could the men clear anything with the stupid trucks breaking down??????????Wasn't their fault, it was that of upper management, Glenn Campbell, director DPW!
bricklakeriv
12:36 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
How soon will the town post the 2012 Budget online?
Daniel Nee
2:02 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
In the past, it's been posted after the formal introduction by the council. Anyone can OPRA the proposal, however.
TownshipofBrick
2:14 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
the Budget is available online now at www.bricktownship.net
concerned and informed
12:44 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
we are not going to save any money on laying these people off because if we do not have garbage pick up then either does the board of ed., so they will have to pay to pick up thier garbage and raise our school taxes to pay for it, so we save nothing, and the rec dept. has a bargaining thing they do with the board of ed. , the town picks up their garbage and the rec dept. gets free gym time for the programs they have, so if the rec dept. has to pay for gym time then the parents of all those kids in those programs will have to pay more to sign their kids up, so it will cost us more. and why then keep the rec dept. why not make those programs private entities if we have to pay for them anyway,
Oscar Wilde
12:51 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Bricktucky taxes are going UP UP UP ......and the county has you lined up for a big increase too......shouldnt be long until the public employee takers are even complaining that the property taxes are too high to keep up with......
Minimew726
1:10 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Oscar
you dont think they are complaining now? You're an idiot
Oscar Wilde
1:21 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
complaining ??? about what ???.......seems to me for having/keeping higher taxes .....you are the idiot !
Joseph Lamb
1:19 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The mayor claims he reduced the budget for 2012 but $2.5 million is the down payment from Standard Alternative to install the solar panels. It shouldn't be used in the budget, it should be used to reduce the $23.5 million debt Acropolis wants us to take on.
Oscar Wilde
1:22 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
he learned that trick from Christie
Minimew726
1:25 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
They are complaing about having to pay higher taxes just to save their jobs and put food in their tables it cloth their kids and pay their mortgage and bills. You called yourself a Benny in an earlier post, so maybe you just should go home. Um done responding to you. You are ignorant and ill informed
Oscar Wilde
1:28 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
the people who pay those salaries , should not be complaining....
SIMPLY CUT THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT AND LOWER THE PROPERTY TAXES !
BW
2:06 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Cosmo, maybe you should take a ride through the park to the big parking lot and take a look. I live NEXT DOOR to windward, and walk through the park every day. Seriously go take a walk and look. If you are unable, I will get pictures tomorrow and ask Dan to put them on the web site.
Cosmo
2:21 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I didn't look at the parking lot, just the places where the trees are.
Cosmo
2:30 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Ok, I just drove thru the entire park. Not one worker there and its 2:30. Just some kids playing football, families, two post office trucks and one verizon truck (both hiding from their supervisors). Yes some trees are missing, I agree with that.
Joseph Woolston Brick
1:13 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Cosmo, you are not a nice person and have a nasty attitude about everybody and everything. First of all let me set you straight on something. You assume that the Postal trucks and the Verizon personnel are sitting down at Windward hiding from their bosses, let me set you straight. Especially with the Verizon truck. A lot of employees that are out on the road, brown bag it and because of time constraints they eat lunch in their trucks with total permission from their bosses, guess you didn't know that the Verizon trucks have GPS tracking on them and believe me the Verizon bosses know where everyone is. People on the trucks don't have the time to stop at diners and or the money to eat at one everyday, McDonald's is out pricing themselves with their crummy food and portions, so the guys are bringing food from home, they can't drive back to their offices to eat, so they stay in the area that they are working in, find a nice place like Windward or Allaire and have their lunch in peace. So your assumption is wrong, the same thing with the Postal workers as well. A lot of your assumptions are this board are wrong!
Cosmo
9:24 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Joseph, maybe you should keep some of your opinions to yourself. Your benny go home dismissive attitude really shows how naive you are. Please ignore anything I say here, as no matter what it is, it will offend you because I haven't been here for 50 years like you.
Joseph Woolston Brick
3:06 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
It's not a Benny go home attitude, it's my wonderment of you knowing everything about everything. Like the assumption that those postal and Verizon workers were hiding from their bosses, Like I told you, the Verizon trucks have GPS on them, they are tracked as are UPS trucks and others. Their bosses know exactly where they are, what time they got there, how long they were there and when they started up the truck and went somewhere else. The employees can not disarm the GPS units or fool around with them and if they do, there is serious consequences if the unit that has been messed with is found out to have been messed with and not malfunctioned on it's own. My own nephew works for a large landscaping company, they have GPS in every single truck, the kid can't fart without his boss knowing about it. As for Windward, the township and it's workers keep Windward in excellent condition, it wouldn't look like it does if they didn't. My amazement with Windward and it's workers comes after a Summerfest concert. Those concerts end at 10pm or sometimes later and by 8am, you can go down to Windward and not even realize there were 20 thousand or more people down there the night before. Have you ever seen Windward just after a concert ends? It's a mess! Come the next morning spotless! You should have seen Windward before the township took it over, it was a wreck. The Wilmonts let the place go to hell and it took a long time for the township to make it into what it is now.
Shepard to lost sheep
2:07 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Everyone on hear has wonderful ideas. But take a look at what is really eating up your tax dollars besides over paid school and township administrators. Birdsall engineering which our ex-business administrator is a high ranking shot caller in that still pulls the strings of the township at over 300k a year and while your looking into that take a peek at the townships attorney Billing. The town needs to shop around for some out of county or even out of state professional services if its allowed by law. Stop the silly tactics and get back to serving the residents, who put you in office, not just the few out of town corporations that funded the way that now suck the township tax payers dry!
10% Tax Cut NOW
2:48 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Mr.Scott MacFaddan was the ring leader along with Cathy Lindenbaum handling the funds needed to get the vote out last April - and the Mayoor assisted along with
Scott Pessares & Juan BaBa Lu-
KC
11:40 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Joe Woolston is right about these guys taking their brown bag lunch. A lot of companies and unions don't even have offices any more and their vehicles ARE their office. No lunchrooms, no bathroom facilities just cell phones and vehicles. If these guys parked in a residential area people would complain. I think we all are sometimes guilty of assuming the worst. Working nowadays is no picnic. Our society is on the decline in so many ways. Give these guys a break. Again, I don't think it is the rank and file workers that are the problem here.
non crazy resident
2:35 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
you people were all against the referendum, but now you want to save DPW. You all wanted to get rid of it last April. All of you are Flip Floppers. Listen you didn't like the referendum, well here ya go, DPW may be gone. Stop complaining about taxes then, either you pay the town to get your garage taken away or pay yourself. You all are so stupid, you sit behind the computer and BITCH. be proactive in the community and have the balls to call Scott or ask at a council meeting.
Joseph Woolston Brick
1:25 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
You are crazy, none of us wanted to get rid of DPW, nobody! We told people NOT to vote for the referendum because we knew exactly what would happen and that was just exactly what has happened! We knew the mayor couldn't be trusted, he has been on this vendetta with the DPW since the day he took the chair in town hall. Wait until all the seniors find out about this, they are going to Preparation H and feather him!
KC
11:42 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Scroll up!
Cosmo
2:39 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Thank you for posting this "budget". Now we can see the before and after. Just a shame we have no input.
http://www.bricktownship.net/library/budget/2012_Mayor_budget.pdf
BW
2:40 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Funny funny cosmo. If you look where the trees used to be all around the edge of the parking lot. Sign I guess some people just have to be right all the time, even when they are wrong.
Minimew726
2:47 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Yeah Shepard. Some one that really knows how the politics are working g in Brick. Get rid if allthe big corporations running Brick Township. Funny how McFadden still runs townhall only now his running it through Birdsall not admin. How is it he didn't go down with Scarpelli And Nydam. STOP THE BS OF IF YOU SCRATCH MY BACK I'll SCRATCH YOURS. ENOUGH WITH THESE POLITICAL CONTRIBUTORS GETTING SWEET BUSINESS DEALS IN BRICK.
brick resident
8:32 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
MacFadden didn't get in trouble because he didn't do anything wrong. He was fully investigated by the FBI, among a lot of other people at Town Hall. It's a shame that a good person is lumped in with two criminals.
Minimew726
2:48 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Hey non crazy.
I was not against the referendum last year. Check out my other posts from that time period. Furthermore I spoke to Scott for quite some time and that's where a lot if my info comes from. So don't say all cause That's not true
Erikendthecorruption
2:50 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Department Heads answer to no one. If the Township Council is serious about cutting waste, they should start from the TOP. No more excuses. Some of the Department Heads receive more than ONE SALARY and their contributions for Health Benefits is based soley on their primary income. It gets worse, if their is more than one related employee, the other employee gets a $4,000 stipend for opting out of health coverage.
Department Heads should not be able to come and go as they please and rarely put in for SICK TIME like the regular worker (unless they are the Department Head's favorites) They don't punch a clock. That is why they are able to retire with a pay-out in excess of $175,000. It is these types of unchecked abuses that ought to be investigated before you go after the DPW.
The Department Heads should give up their taxpayer paid vehicles NOW. It is simply outrageous that we continue to ask the ordinary hard working employee to do all the sacrifices while the real waste and cuts could be realized without CUTTING SERVICES to the Citizentry of Brick.
Department Heads should give up 25 percent of their salaries now. And Juan Bellu, what ever happened to the TWU's grievance lodged against him. Someone please let the citizens know. Hope there were no payoffs on that front.
All other wasteful spending should be cut ( $400 on ceremonial keys to the Township) when you put 77 workers and key services at risk!
BW
3:15 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Wow!!!!!! I am looking at this budget and the difference between approp actual between 2011 and this is UNREAL. Admin salaries 23k in 2011 and 442k in 2012? This budget is inflated by astronomical amounts!
Going to take sometime to compare these. I can see why Steve FAILED as a financial planner!
Cosmo
3:21 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
at the risk of being right, do i have to ask permission to be right?, the 2010 actual is not correct. there is no way we have a 2.9 million total actual for 2010 (look at the last page). I believe it was done this way so we couldn't compare the two without manually reconstructing the 2012 mayors budget.
brick strong
6:20 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
That increase in admin. salaries is to friends and family..???Its not going to figure out where the over spending is ..do you think ???
Scott Pezarras
8:03 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Me
You are not looking at this correct you are comparing 2010 for part of the year when the new accounting software was implemented. You have to compare 2011 budget and actually spent through the control account to what is being requested in teh requested line item. This is the problem with putting up documents that people are not familiar with they are misinterpreted. There are many laws and regulations that are behind these numbers.
Portia
3:17 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
And, stop rewarding employees for showing up for work. Are you kidding me. The Township gives an employee a "Personal Day" if they do not take a sick day in a 3-month cycle . . . that's four free days and counting. That's as bad as having paid employees $100 respectively for going to the flawed "Health Center" which thankfully has been discontinued. Talk about a waste in spending.
BW
3:25 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Cosmo I have 2011 downloaded. I am in the process of comparing them, but it is going to take a while, because as you said Steve made it almost impossible to do so. Whats nice is windows 7 has this snap feature so you can brig them both up side by side1
Cosmo
4:40 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Lots of separation bonuses, I wonder why?
Cosmo
11:57 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I honestly think many things in this budget need to be questioned. The Mayor and Council have a fiduiciary duty to preserve the assets of the township. I complained about this last year when only DPW was on the block and nothing else was addressed. It was just "give us more money or else". Everyone ran and voted to save DPW, but let the giant Elephant sit idly in the room. On the surface, I have many questions about what is in this budget. (like if we have so many Police Officers, why on earth do we need to budget overtime as well?). I will not comment again until we see how the Council lives up to their fiduciary duty. I think at that point we all need to evaluate what has been done by the Council and examine our options as a community, with the objective being the greater good and not saving any individual's or small group's jobs.
Cosmo
12:00 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I must say one other thing here. Many of you complain that you are only saving $270 this year. That was an increment in a single year, not the build up of what dpw actually costs us in total. The increase for this year as well as the benefit of disposal of equipment is not factored into these figures. So please don't jump the gun without evaluating all of the costs and revenues that pertain to this unilateral decision by the Mayor. Do you honestly think a company can compete if they send you a 24% increase to haul waste? Only insurance companies and governments can get away with that. I fully support the DPW employees, but letting the Town operate public works is costing a fortune. Maybe we can approach one of the public companies to migrate our excess staff to their payroll, and outsource so no one loses their job. It just one of many options we can explore. As far as I can see, no one in town hall has given this any thought.
Portia
3:36 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Me - be sure to take a look at the amount of employees who are getting more than one paycheck or stipend while performing the very same tasks during normal business hours. Talk about DOUBLE- TRIPLE -DIPPING! If we cut those expenditures alone from the budget a significant savings would be realized. All those duties should be incorporated into the job description of a given employee. Such expenditures contribute to the waste in spending simply because there have been few challenges to existing unsound policies.
It is my genuine hope that the Council will analyze this budget with a fine tooth comb. They might want to seek input from previous Citizens who have analyzed previous Budgets because many of the same patterns exist and questioned. In my opinion the 2010 Budget was extremely ill-conceived, and I publicly made my view known to no avail.
JHill
4:00 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
That's great--the township workers don't have any type of filtering on their computers so they are free to loaf around on Facebook and shop on ebay? Wonderful.
Melissa Thomson
4:10 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I am so confused. I thought I understood how a democracy worked. Wasn't there a vote to keep services? Didn't the people say they wanted to keep services? Can he really just do whatever he wants?
C
6:00 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Yes, all the little scaredy cats voted "yes" to keep services & now you have this mess once again. Obviously the vote didn't matter.
Portia
4:12 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
No, that's what some use their cell phone for - phone cell use should be restricted for this reason! But we should not assume that it is the norm. Isn't that the duty of the Department Head to confirm that this does not happen. Of course, he or she would need to be present.
Laura
4:43 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
It seems the Mayor's plan will save each household approximately $245. They will then have to spend that much to hire a private company. You can deduct the amount you pay in taxes. You cannot deduct what you would pay for a private service. How is that a win for the residents?
Oscar Wilde
5:14 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
you can lose your house for not paying property taxes, you can not lose your house for not paying for garbage pickup......(plus those deductions may be going away in the near future)
parkway
4:44 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Doing away with DPW will not save a dime in the long run. Sounds good until you start paying to have it all done. Furthur more those of you who keep trashing DPW you try doing it on their salaries. The person who said most of them make poverty level wages for a family of 4 is correct. Take from those that sit on their butts and look goos leave the hard workers alone, the ones that work outdoors in all weather, that fix the roads, plow the snow and do the best they can with what they are working with. it is a thankless job and all they are are criticized.
Oscar Wilde
5:16 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
if the pay is so bad, the job so disgusting, the taxpayers who pay the salaries so mean.....why do they all stay at the job ????
bths06
5:31 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
oscar, studies have shown there are a few that actually like what they are doing that is why they are there (20%), also there are the ones are just happy to have a job and do it because there are no other jobs for them to get (60%) and finally there are the ones that are the disengaged who could care less what they are doing (20%).
This goes for not only DPW but anyone, public or private.
parkway
4:45 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
that was good
Oscar Wilde
5:16 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
no actually it wasnt very good....LOL
Portia
5:15 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Another cost-saving measure which HAS BEEN brought to the MAYOR and COUNCIL'S attention is to revise the Ordinance which provides for our Public Defender and Prosecutor from status as a Brick Township employee. It is financially irresponsible to continue to provide for medical benefits and pension credits for attorneys. They should be subject to the fair and open bidding process and not be considered an EMPLOYEE of the TOWNSHIP at an absurt cost to the taxpayer. It is my understanding that a savings of $4,500 a month would be realized just from this one revision alone.
It's time for public advantage and the people's work to begin or else we must seriously consider changing to NONPARTISAN form of Government. The business administrator confirmed that 1,700 hundred signatures would be required.
robert meseck
5:44 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
deep down i think the mayor is wishing the council puts the dpw back into the budget, then he will climb up on the roof of town hall and say "I told you so " , saying the council raised your taxes while he wanted to lower them . He will blame the whole mess on the new council .
also a woman made a comment last night about the kids should playing nice in the sand box , but it seems someone left the sandbox . i say go one step further, take your marbles , leave the playground altogether and go the hell home steve. you are killing this town.
C
6:03 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The mayor says if the budget is passed there'll be a savings of $245 a year for each household? Really? What savings? The way I see it If everyone has to get their own garbage removal, there goes that savings.
MM
6:13 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I am sure the FBI or the AG's Office Is looking into this Mayor. He must have ties to a carting company.
brick strong
6:17 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I don't understand maybe because I'm so sick and tired of the mayor's political games..We voted in the new budget and the increase over the cap to save the D.P.W. and Police department..So where is that monies that was approved back then..??Why now does he want to now give us a tax break ..does he think he's going to re-elected ??? haha fat chance ..leave now ..
Oscar Wilde
6:24 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
he is going to give that money back, that the majority of you were foolish enough to vote for a 24% increase upon yourselves.....the rest of the money went to the police so they could write more tickets and pad their pensions and health benefits
bths06
7:18 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Oscar how is $245 all of the 24% increase? The bill that i pay went up a total of $435 for the year. I don't think that $190 is equal to the 2% increase that the Gov. put into effect plus the 2% from the BOE.
Oscar Wilde
8:01 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
the 2% FRAUD CAP has more loopholes than Swiss cheese that falls off Christies daily hoagie......the pensions and health benefits dont count against the cap, even though they are what are strangling the taxpayers the most every year and with no end in sight.....but you will not hear that from the liar Christie OR the greedy public unions
localexpert
6:26 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
FOR 245 I will take the services i voted YES for and keep what I have now.He put in place 10 new cops so he agrees with our Yes vote on the referendum.Now I cant wait to show him the door along with S.P. and J.B. If the voters want a new MAYOR ti will be a landslide against our own BLAGO.Vote out the remainder of his group.D.S. D.B. D.T with more DEMS. Hey ALAN C. why dont you run ,that will be an avalanche against you. BYE STEVIE
C
6:48 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
November elections can't get here soon enough. I'm afraid of all the bad decisions can be made until then. I just hope the Council keeps their promises to us & do what's good for the people of Brick. The mayor certainly hasn't.
disgusted homeowner
11:20 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
The mayor is not on the ballot until NOVEMBER 2013 THE SAME AS GOV. CHRISTIE!!!!!!!!!!!
Scott Pezarras
7:41 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The Budget as presented is on line on the Twp's website. It is the revenue and expenses by legal line item and the corresponding detail that was entered by the various departments.
36anonanon
7:44 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
What the council now needs to do is balance this budget. That is why they were voted in. Not an easy ask, but before any layoffs are considered the council should analyze all spending. As someone said earlier, freeze all capital spending and non essential spending for the immediate future..at least until the revised budget is approved. The council now as a short time to do this....late nights and all the pressure from the township residents.
non crazy resident
7:56 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
You ask Scott to take a $1?? Are you kidding me, the council should take 1$. They ran on a platform for saving the town money by not taking benefits... Well, little lydecker is taking her salary at $8000, Ducey is taking his benefits for $20000, Fozman is taking his salary of $8000+stipend of $4000= $12000, Moore is taking the same, salary and stipend of $12000. Total DEM Costs are $52,000...Thats equivalent to another mayor. thats 51,999 more then the Mayors taking.
Joseph Woolston Brick
1:37 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Crazy, so what your saying is you want these people to work for free is that it? They are doing actual work and should be paid for their time. So what do you think is the fair payment for their services? Can't wait for your reply. What we have to make sure is, that we are not over paying them, that they are getting fair pay.
Portia
7:59 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
It is beyond comprehension that some folks, the same-select few, continually misdirect their frustration and outrage on our competent Business Administrator Scott Pezarras. He continually reaches out to the public to answer resident concerns. He always conducts himself in a professional and civil manner. Folks should give it some serious thought as to who else beside Mr. Pezarras has the insight, foresight, knowledge, and fortitude to oversee the Township.
Although I would be the first to point out that there are numeroust cost-saving measures to be had, I do appreciate Mr. Scott Pezarras's business acumen and work ethic. It is inconceivable to me that he should be likened to the incompetent Mr. Juan Bellu. Do you have any idea how much time and effort Mr. Pezarras extends to our Township? Try not having him available at one Council Meeting and see what happens.
Oscar Wilde
8:17 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
he wouldnt know how to tell the truth, if Juan Bellus job depended on it
BW
8:09 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
WOW! An excuse for everything. New software, reading it wrong. Maybe it is because the person who wrote it doesnt know his tushie from a hole in the ground? NOW THAT IS A GOOD EXCUSE!
I have the budgets all downloaded from 2008 to this one. Dont worry I KNOW how to read it!
Scott Pezarras
8:17 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Me
Anytime you would like to discuss this feel free to come to microphone or simply call my office. I respectfully disagree with your comment about the "tushie". I have all the licenses and credentials that qualify me for this job. What is your background, are you familiar with the statutes, CAP laws, DCA regulations. Are you aware that municipalities do not work off of a GAAP accounting system? Do you know what system they do operate under? How is it that you never call my office to have discussions on the issues you bring up on this forum. I have put my number out numerous times, some have called and had their questions answered.
non crazy resident
8:21 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Scott Pezarras is one of the most accesable members of administration, why don't you take advantage of this instead of BITCHING on the patch and crying like a baby and making up facts.
Portia
8:17 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I would urge the Townsip Council to maintain the integrity of the People's Vote in last year's Referendum, and save the Department of Public Works from elimination. It shouldn't matter which way you voted in the referendum to understand that the plurality of votes should mean something and the democratic process took place as was intended by our Forefathers. Essentially overturning the Referendum ballot will place a dark cloud over Brick Township for years to come. This is not the legacy I'd like for Brick Township to be remembered by. Leadership is best served by individuals with a Cool Head and Warm Heart!
Oscar Wilde
8:23 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
oh dont worry voting YES for the 24% tax increase is the legacy Bricktucky will be remembered for, with hiring a guy with $100,000 in tax liens for $150,000 salary a close 2nd
frances
3:15 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
It makes no sense to put our Township back in Crisis mode. And it makes less sense to use the same arguments to eliminate our services as was used to save our services. To arbitrarily and capriciously dictate that half the services voted on may remain while the other half must go is unconsionable at best. "Overturning" the referendum ballot is politicking at its worst!
Dawn Marie White
8:19 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The Role of a Business Administrator in New Jersey - The appointed manager or administrator is charged with carrying out the policies established by the elected officials and with delivering public services efficiently, effectively, and equitably. Elected officials, in turn, have more time to concentrate on creating a vision for the community’s future.
Scott Pezarras you do a marvelous Job... This budget was prepared At the direction of the mayor. Now the budget has been presented to the council, Mr. Pezarras will change the budget to reflect the requests of the council. Mr. Pezarras has brought in millions of dollars in grant money to this town and works with all of our elected officials equally.
Once people recognize that there is a need to continue planning for the future of Brick in order to become independent of state funding as much as possible, the better we will all be.
BW
8:19 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
LOL Scott I was talking about Steve. He IS the one who came up with this budget isnt he? That what we have been told. So if you have nothing to do with with this scam, why get so upset?? HMMMMMMM
mike
8:26 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
waste management is not the only comp available there are others that dont charge nearly as much so stop comparing local prices to those of towns up north shut up and shop around and see how much it costs for yourself instead of complaining without the facts
Scott Pezarras
8:26 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Me
You addressed the comment to me after I answered your question. I assumed you were speaking about me, but my explanantion still stands that the document was misread.
Lori Morrison
8:45 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
After reading the article and all the comments made, I am sure the Mayor is looking at this and enjoying every minute of it. This is nothing more than his way of getting back at all of us for voting out his butt buddies, the council for denying him all of his pet projects and making public works look like the bad guys.
Vera Fozman
8:50 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Scott, Employees names and their respective salaries are usual and customary in most budgets. As such, they are not present in the Mayors "2012 Introduced Budget". My question would then be, why are they not included as individual line items rather than lumped as a whole sum? I am aware of GAAP guidelines, as well as "Off Balance Sheet" accounting. The present budget as submitted is vague and all over the place.
non crazy resident
8:55 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Vera,
ASK YOUR HUSBAND, isn't he a councilman?
Vera Fozman
8:59 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Non - No.
Vera Fozman
9:00 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Non - I choose to submit my question to Scott.
non crazy resident
9:03 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Vera,
Why don't you do what most people do and call scott to make an appt. with him.
Vera Fozman
9:06 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Non - Scott has apparently made himself available for questions on this forum.
non crazy resident
9:08 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Unless you feel scott should be paid overtime, I would give him a call in the morning
Vera Fozman
9:13 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Non - So you are implying Scott charges the Township of Brick for the statements he provides on this forum?
non crazy resident
9:20 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
no he is doing it on his own time.. you are asking in depth questions, he isn't on call 24/7. try calling during normal business hours of 9 to 430 :)
Scott Pezarras
10:01 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Vera
The format is in DCA required format in conjunction with their regulations and rules. I don't understand you comment about it is "all over the place". It is in the only format available with our software. There is no standard issue software utilized by the State, but the system we utilize now is utilized by 300 municipalities throughout the State.
Vera Fozman
10:09 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Scott, your answer refers to the manner in which the data is formated. My question is in regards to the line item data missing.
non crazy resident
8:52 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Lori,
Stop assuming, speak of the facts and keep your opinion to yourself. its really sad you think this little of the mayor
Lori Morrison
10:01 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The point of this forum is for people to express their opinions. Read the other 200 plus postings.
Scott Pezarras
10:31 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Vera
Individual names are not listed in this new software package. I can't change the software.
Sean Conneamhe
8:55 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
"It was said at the meeting that there were no to be no one-shot revenue gimmicks in the proposed budget."
"However, the $2.5 million up-front payment from Solar Sam's home office is such a one-shot deal."
Vera Fozman
9:04 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I concur.
Erikendthecorruption
9:18 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Sean, wish that it were for 3.5 million, not 2.5 million - it's called negotiating. Better in our operating budget so that it doesn't have to come from eliminating services or burdening the taxpayer. That is not a one-shot deal. And our newly elected Council President Ducey will be reviewing the project for further negotiations for the betterment of our community. I'm looking forward to his findings. Councilwoman Lydecker has proven that she is for the people. She gave up her health benefits and the $4,000 stipend for opting out. Her actions speak louder than words. It's my understanding that she thinks that this is a worthy project, as do I. My faith in her is great as she demonstrates time and time again that she reviews all the materials and asks relevant questions at the Council Meetings. Hope that I am not speaking prematurely, but it is only my first impression. She appears to be dedicated to learning about Town Affairs to enable herself to perform in its tasks.
Scott Pezarras
10:03 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Sean and Vera
There is no Solar Revenue in the budget. Where do you see that?
JHill
7:40 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Scott, where was the 2.5 million applied?
Scott Pezarras
8:01 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Jhill
The $2.5 million you are talking about, I am assuming is from the solar redevelopment project. It has not been received and won't be unless the Twp moves forward with the project. After the Twp commits to move forward through the next phase of the agreement, then the $2.5 million will be turned over to the Twp.
JHill
1:06 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Thanks for the answer Scott.
Oscar Wilde
9:14 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Vera, do you get 50% of the $12,000.......i would just like to know how the taxpayers money is spent
TimeForChange
9:45 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
What a stupid comment to make.
Oscar Wilde
10:12 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
yeah your are right, she must be taking atleast 75% at a minimum.....i apologize
localexpert
9:16 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Lets list for public scrutiny all employees salaries,including Supv. Dept. Heads Secty and go line by line and figure who is needed and who is not... We voted on a referendum a yes VOTE FOR OUR SERVICES,and we want that legal vote to remain iif not then the COUNCIL should tell the KING to get rid of the 10 cops that he and his in law have hired and sworn in..See Ya Stevie
Sean Conneamhe
9:44 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
"It was said at the meeting that all the employees' unions were consulted about alternatives to the proposed employee lay-offs."
"However, the employees belonging to the Teamsters Union were never consulted, as required by state law, despite numerous opportunities to do so."
"This omission, in itself, should procedurally nullify the lay-off plan."
Scott Pezarras
10:06 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Sean
Notices were sent to the Teamsters for a meeting with no response if you would like a copy, you can OPRA them. The plan was approved by Civil Service, therefore it was done in accordance with their rules otherwise it would have not have been approved.
Minimew726
9:54 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Localexpert
I think that's a GREAT idea but don't stop there, have townhall include their hire dates that way the public can see who worked their way up the ladder and see which employees had cushy jobs with top salary just handed to them. You would be shocked to see those numbers.
Oscar Wilde
10:06 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
keep your eyes on the uncollected taxes......It is Scott Houdinis greatest trick
Oscar Wilde
10:08 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
so scott you say you will answer all questions, so answer me this.....you were one of those who led the public to believe if they voted for a 24% increase upon themselves they would not have to visit this issue for another 4 or 5 years , why are we here again like ground hog day (just as i predicted by the way)
and do not tell me Nov. vote was for lower taxes (the fools like their garbage picked up and the cops to write tickets for them to pay) it was AGAINST arrogant people who had/have no respect for the taxpayers and put out nasty negative literature was the last straw.....your mayor did the impossible and got 4 democrats, who have never been for lower taxes , voted in, so why are we here with this and the year is not 2015 yet ??????
Scott Pezarras
10:19 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Oscar
Financially we are in good shape if the $8.6m that was raised by the referendum remains intact in 2012 and the other referendums initiatives presented are moved forward.
Oscar Wilde
10:36 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
so i guess that means you would be against the mayors budget
BW
10:08 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Scott, tell us, since you are Steve's right hand man, what is this grudge and vendetta Steve has against public works? Anything to do with E.C.??
Scott Pezarras
10:16 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I have no idea, you would have to ask the Mayor.
Scott Pezarras
10:14 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Oscar
Do you understand what a reserve for unclollected taxes is and how it impacts the budget if you don't calculate this properly? If you don't have a reserve and there are delinquent taxpayers the town will not have the money to pay the other taxing entities (school, county, and fire districts) if that happens we would have to pay it out of the Twp's surplus, or worse if there is not enough surplus balance we would have an operating deficit. This is not a good scenario. If not I urge you to contact my office and I will be happy to explain it to you. 732-262-1050, I will be back in the office on Friday.
Vera Fozman
10:17 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
What surplus? With all due respect of course.
Scott Pezarras
10:24 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Vera
The one that is regenerated through operations of the prior year, and the reason we received a credit upgrade from Standard and Poors. It is all in the financial documents of the Township. They are in your husband's council box.
Vera Fozman
10:29 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Risk and an upgrade by S & P. Interesting. Thank you Scott.
BW
10:18 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Vera we dont have a surplus, dont you remember Bellu told the press the mayor could spend it because there were no emergencies in the foreseeable future!
Vera Fozman
10:22 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I am aware the surplus was spiraled. Interesting how one can conclude emergencies are not possible in the future.
BW
10:21 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Speaking of delinquint taxes, it is funny how many of the mayors inner circle have had their taxes sold at tax sale. What is it with them not wanting to pay income taxes and property taxes?
BW
10:24 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Oscar FYI Bellu's fedliens are now $210,000.
Oscar Wilde
10:30 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
WOW ! and to think he got hired as a business administrator.......when umemployed people in the private sector cant get hired because their meaningless FICO score went below 600.......wake me when the revolt starts
Lori Morrison
10:27 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Scott Pezarras has been working for the Township for many years under both Democratic and Republican Mayors. He knows what he is doing and it very good at it or else he would have been let go when there was an opposite party mayor elected. Cut the guy some slack.
none of yobusiness
10:27 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
As a 35 yr resident of Brick I have reached my breaking point. The greed that goes on in civil service along with politicians is unbelievable.That being said, i must point out a fact that i cant stop thinking about. A garbage collector is listed number nine in the top ten most dangerous jobs in America nowhere does policeman appear. The average salary for a garbage collector is 45000yr approx here in Brick yet a policemens avg salary is 100000yr both are plus benefits. Can anybody tell me why? Before you go crazy on me,i come from a family of many policemen. The only two reasons I cancome up with are because they have a strong union along with a great propoganda machine and within the last decade politicians feel they should give them more because of 9/11. if its because its a dangerous job well why arent garbage men making 150000yr. just saying!
Oscar Wilde
10:34 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
join the breaking point club, glad to have you......
Joseph Woolston Brick
2:01 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Here's what I don't understand, people that work for Brick are making salaries that you would see in New York City government, but shouldn't be seen in a town of this size. We are talking Brick a town of maybe a little more than 70,000+ having almost the same salaries as a person who works for a city that has a population of 8 Million. It doesn't make sense. New York City needs a full time mayor at beck and call 24 hrs a day, Brick doesn't, so why was the mayor allowed to claim he was full time and his salary raised and without the consent of the people of Brick. I just don't get this whole town government we have at all. We vote in one thing, we plainly tell the mayor we want our services to be kept intact, here's your tax raise, now do it, and the man turns around and does the opposite. We want an explanation from him and he runs out of the meeting like he had diarrhea. How does that work when your a full time mayor getting $50,000 or so a year it's not like we had to pay you overtime to stay and explain more, take questions. Remember sir, you work for us, not the other way around. Your employers want an explanation of your actions ASAP!
Reality
5:41 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
None of youbusiness & Joseph Woolston Brick -
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. These outrageous salaries/benefits are the reasons our taxes are so high. Someone please explain to me why we have 90 officers earning over $100,000 per year. Why does the mayor's secretary earn $70,000+ per year?
Are these employees contributing $1,000s per year health care? Do they pay more than $10-$20 copays for office visits and prescriptions? What do they pay for an er visit? I bet it's only $50 or less. What do they pay in gas/tolls to commute to work?
Brick Township employees - and I'm not talking about just the DPW - refuse to get it!! The REALITY is:
The MAJORITY of Brick taxapyers work in private sector and we are broke!! We can no longer afford to pay for your outrageous benefits. This is not just a DPW issue!
10% Tax Cut NOW
9:24 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Better union negotiators - and it is good to have family in the Mayors Office
Vera Fozman
10:37 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
"More than $6.7 million was lost from last year's spending plan, with almost $3 million in anticipated surplus not being realized among other revenue losses that total $6,729,606."
Scott Pezarras
10:47 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Vera
??????????????? I don't understand what you are saying. You may call me on Friday to discuss if you wish, you have my number.
JHill
7:53 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
6.7 million is what we are paying for the new Trader's Cove Marina for the Lakewood residents. It will be jam packed every day of the week but Saturdays!
Michael
10:40 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Scott, if you are still answering questions, what happened to this proclamation?
"Acropolis ended the discussion with a bright forecast, however.
“If the referendum does pass, we will be on sound footing for probably four to five years.” (source: http://brick.patch.com/articles/acropolis-no-layoffs-if-referendum-is-approved)"
If understand the proposed budget correctly, my taxes last year increased by approximately $315, but the new budget will save me $245 this year. I'm still at a net loss of $70 and I have to contract my own garbage and recycling collection.
If I understand it correctly, I can't believe this would make any fiscal sense at all for any resident of Brick Township.
Scott Pezarras
10:45 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Michael
The entire increase in 2011 was comprised of inside the CAP and outside the CAP increases. The amount of the referendum (8.6 million) was the amount that we needed to exceed the CAP by,in you case it appears to be $70 that was within the CAP.
localexpert
10:46 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Line by Line Audit. Council go for it
Reality
6:08 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
To Mr. Pezarras:
I agree (for once) with Mrs. Fozman - Please post all employees names, job titles and salaries on the budget that is on the Township website. The public has a right to know this information.
One word - TRANSPARENCY
lisa
7:32 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
if i'm going to save 250.00 in taxes and it costs me 250.00 to have my garbage picked up privately. wouldn't it be better to pay the 250.00 in taxes and keep 77 people employed
Lori Morrison
7:46 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Lisa,
If the DPW trash services are eliminated and our property taxes are reduced, we will not be able to include private trash collection as a tax write off. Our property taxes may be lower but how much will we actually be saving?
Oscar Wilde
8:02 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
1. its not our responsability to keep 77 people employed
2. just cause they leave brick doesnt mean they will never be hired in private sector(unless you think they are all overpaid morons)
3. the costs of the 77 pension and health in future costs are rising so fast, it is much cheaper to privatize garbage
4. you can lose your house for not being able to keep up with the disgusting increase in property taxes, you cant lose your house for not paying for garbage
native52
11:21 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Oscar you are the MORON
localexpert
7:42 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
ALL should read what J.W. Brick said. This is the theme of our argument.Who is he to disect our YES vote on the referendum.Its ok for 10 new cops but not okay for the 77 who are presentky employed. We voted your people OUT to stop the rubber stamp KING STEVIE had. Brings in J.B. at a large salary but now wants to be a fiscal conservative on salaries.he IS REALLY TRYING to HURT the people of Brick..The 4 new members better take him to task over this budget and do away with his cronies.Everyone knows WHO they are...
Joseph Woolston Brick
12:49 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I don't believe the mayor is trying to hurt the people of Brick, he's trying to buy popularity back and hoping to save some of those in his administration for the next election, unfortunately it's too little too late. The problem with the mayor is he sees everything as political, it's all democrat vs republican to him and thats not the case, if he had learned that a few years ago, I don't think he would be where he is now, which is one foot out the door. He also has to learn not to take everything personally. After the defeat of the Ocean Ice Palace he acted as if everybody in town had turned democrat and were against him, which was simply not the case, those of us that live here didn't want the place. Could you imagine where we would be now if the town did buy it? I wasn't against the mayor personally when I signed that petition, I was against the town buying an old run down building that millions would have had to be poured into to, to bring it up to todays modern standards But I'm totally with the mayor on Traders Cove, preservation of land where the general public of Brick can go for boating and swimming. What's wrong with that? Brick is shrinking! WHAT? You say? Yes it may be growing as far as homes and buildings but shrinking in land where the people who are not millionaires and don't have homes on the water can go swim,crab and launch their boats. Those lands are rapidly disappearing. Preservation of what little is left is key for this town to survive!
Oscar Wilde
7:58 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
alot of you are missing the point, the 4 democrats ran being against the 24% referandum and doing everything they could to save the brick taxpayers money......i have yet to see them save $1 for the brick taxpayers
(and actually costs more than they promise with the health benefits they took or get $4000 for passing)
you need to see this for what it really is.....there is NO difference when it comes to spending taxpayers dwindling money, between democRATS and republiCANTS
Joseph Woolston Brick
1:00 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Oscar, the Democrats could have all offered us wild crazy promises like trips to the moon and we would have still voted for them! Nobody cared what they promised or said what they were going to do, they were voted in as a stop gap measure to keep Steve's people in check, plain and simple. In fact in any of the people that were voted in think they have their jobs now because of their platform and promises they are just a delusional as the rest of them up there. Think of them as doorstops that were placed in front of a door to keep the big wind from shutting it. Get it now?
BW
8:35 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Brick resident, how I wish the FBI woul come back and investigate town hall again!
Mrgrumpass
9:53 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
The FBI will find nothing, because there is nothing that crosses the line in town hall, they may find improper and just plain arrogant and poor management there aren’t any no show jobs, no one is stealing or taking bribes! I don’t think anyone will be cuffed and dragged off as some here would like.
Micsun
9:11 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Let me see if I have this right.
Proposal to raise taxes over the 2% cap in order to keep trash collection and police employees.
It gets passed
Find out the Police dept got raises prior to vote.
Buy a new garbage truck
Spend $25,000.00 for new garbage cans
Offer to pick up Pt Pleasant garbage.
Now despite the vote for trash collection which is what the people wanted, the Mayor decide he doesn't like that idea.
I know the garbage cans did not come in yet because I requested a replacement. So did they cancel the order for the trash cans? If not, why not? If trash is not an option for the township, it would mean they have another $25,000.00 to keep for another of the Mayor's bright ideas.
Is the Mayor giving us a tax credit that I can really see against my taxes? Because as an unemployed homeowner I could really use it.
Pt Pleasant was so smart to stay away from us as a township. Just wish the people in Brick would get smarter
Sal Petoia
9:31 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
So many comments and so much anger. Obviously people on both sides of the political aisle defending their favorites. We have a problem. Too much spending. Acropolis sees the solution as doing away with public works. Personally, I don't favor losing those services, and I am not convinced that over the long term privatization will save me any money or make life more convenient. The big question we should be asking is why the mayor singled out public works which represents about 20 % of the work force? If we need to cut the payroll by that amount, why not spread it over the ENTIRE work force. If it is legal to eliminate 77 jobs, it should be legal to eliminate 20 % of the personnel from ALL departments!
What is so sacred about all the other departments? Or if we don't want anyone to lose their jobs, why not a temporary 20% cutback in work hours? Or renegotiating contracts to have employees begin contributing more for health insurance? How about asking the employees for their ideas to save THEIR jobs. They are not stupid. They can see the handwriting on the wall. They've had it pretty good up until now, but the ride is over. Either help, or suffer with the rest of the community. If the mayor was really sincere in trying to solve the budget crisis, he could have strived for better solutions.
Minimew726
9:53 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Hey Scott P. Got a bone to pick and maybe you can answer this VERY serious question that seems to be eluding everyone here. Before our Mayor left the meeting, tail between his legs, he stated, and I quote, "if the council decides to INCREASE the budget by 8¢ those types if things can be put back in the budget" WTF!!!!!!! Now explain to me how there needs to be another increase when we, the taxpayers of Brick, were told by the mayor, you,and just about everyone that if we exceeded the cap we would be on good footing for the next 4-5 YEARS? Its been 10 months and we may need another increase if we want to keep services in house? What the F happened to all the money? You are the business administrator. FIGURE THIS $HIT OUT. WE ARE TIRED OF BEING LIED TO. DON'T FORGET WE PAY YOU NOT ACROPOLIS.
Scott Pezarras
10:43 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Mini
Call my office and I will be happy to discuss this with you. It gets too invilved to try to type on this forum. 732-262-1050. I will be in tomorrow
Minimew726
11:35 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
With all due respaect Mr. Pezarras, wouldn't it be better if you tried to answer that question here so MANY people could get that answer, intead of just answering one person. I'm sure you can give the readers digest version here that the common taxpayer can understand at least try. Why an additional 8 cents to keep services? Haven't we paid enough?
Red
2:16 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Mini, i think the point here is that cutting garbage lowers taxes 8 cents from last year...putting the garbage back in would require the 8 cents to be put back in the budget. It's not 8 more cents over last year, its 8 cents over what the mayor gave them, which is what it was last year.
Minimew726
2:25 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Thank you Red. I still want Scott to explain. obvously there is more to it than that simple explination
Scott Pezarras
7:17 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Mini
Red is correct if the 8 cents goes back in we any increase will stay within the 2% tax levy cap.
Mrgrumpass
9:55 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I don’t think council will allow PW to be dissolved; the council knows what the people want and will act correctly. I want my trash picked up as well as road repair and snow removal.
John
9:59 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Czar Acropolis pushed the citizens of this township to vote for the budget last year saying that if it did not pass he was going to cut garbage and police officers. I have an idea! Instead of cutting public garbage services, why don't we lay off half the cops. I mean, we have about 10 officers for every fender-bender and another three to pullover anyone going 10 over the speed limit. We also spent a fortune to put those stupid cameras in at every intersection which give tickets to those of us who really don't deserve them. The funny thing is, the pictures taken by those cameras are reported to a company in Arizona, so we don't even need cops to monitor them! So instead of cutting public garbage and recycling, we should lay off a good portion of the cops, and maybe then I won't have to wait for a table at the diner or in a line at one of our two dozen Dunkin Donuts just to get a cup of coffee.
Oscar Wilde
10:19 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
and they make 3 times as much in salaries and get to retire early.....
how many cops , active, retired and disabled are the taxpayers paying for and what is the total dollar amount per year
John
10:51 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Looking at the budget, salaries for this upcoming year will be over 16 million. This doesn't include the close to $641,000 spend on those stupid red light cameras.
Lazzari
11:16 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
At least Az is employing people to monitor our cameras guess we can be happy knowing we are helping people there ,,,,,,,,,,rofl sry the devil made me say that :-~
Tapuout
7:01 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Ok John now that you made yourself sound like a total moron please allow me to make you feel smaller then you already are. The red light cameras are in fact from am outside company but monitored by officers only the a sworn officer of the court can issue a summons. Second of all your right at all times all 100+ officers are I. Dunkin Donuts at the same time all the time, as well as the diner, even though there are three different shifts. I think you should photo those events and send them to guiness to put in the record book. We get it you got a ticket in the past and are crying and not you get to act like a grown up child and pound your feet and cry and Im sure you complained about that officer. And if you think fender benders and tickets are all cops do in this town take your lazy ass down to the pd and do a ride along so you can substantiate you ignorant accusations/bs observations. Oh and I don't drink coffee and only eat at a diner with my family usually the OB.
John
9:27 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Feel free to call me a moron all you want. Apparently you don't need an education to become a police officer, as seen by your incredibly excellent grammar. Secondly, don’t take my words and skew them. I never said that ALL officers are at Dunkin Donuts at the same time. If you are going to try and argue with people with the written word, you should really get your facts straight as well. Stop embarrassing yourself. Secondly, I have never gotten a ticket from those red light cameras, so don’t accuse me of just crying about them. As an officer, you should know not to accuse individuals of something unless you have proof. I don’t support the red light cameras because I think they are a waste of money, especially when you put them up and don’t get rid of any police officers to save money. I also dislike them for the fact that I feel they go against our constitutional rights. You are just another one of Acropolis’s minions who will support him even when he puts this town in the gutter. I am so glad we give “intelligent” individuals authority in this town.
Lazzari
10:40 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
OH! Good morning all you nice people I met at the meeting & same to everyone else :-)
Lazzari
10:43 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Have to say it does make perfect sense to lay off higher paid personal more police hasn't made this a safer place to live especially if you live near Herbertsville Rd....just saying..........BTW what are our stats nationally these days?
localexpert
11:28 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
The King wont touch the Police because his IN LAW is in charge.Lay off the 10 new cops ,that will save over 600,000.00 That is a no brainer,then look at those jobs that are not needed IN TOWN HALL. Freeze all salaries to last years level and watch those who get overtime.That should be easy for the Council to look at.Council this is your first test play the Kings game but one better.Go for the new 10,see how he and in law like that.SEE YA Stevie
Minimew726
11:44 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
hey Local,
Don't forget getting rid of some of the "paid Holidays". It's these stupid days that create a lot of unneeded overtime. Let the garbage men pick up garbage on Election day, it's not like they can't get out to vote. STUPID HOLIDAY!!!!!!!!!! Township did away with Good Friday, now start picking through the other useless holidays and get rid of them too, Veterans day, MLK day, Columbus day. GET RID OF THEM
Joseph Woolston Brick
1:20 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I will never forget my first job which was for a large LARGE company that was union, except I was middle management and not in the union, but I had to learn all the union rules and regs and I also benefited from the union contract as well because what the workers got off and paid for, so did I. I was around 22 at the time and I remember sitting at my desk reading the paid holidays and I see Columbus Day, I remember saying to myself, Columbus Day? There's such a thing? When the hell is it? I was like, well OK, no problem with me. In reality I could careless if I had Columbus Day off or not. I had never celebrated Columbus Day in my life! You wouldn't believe some of the other paid days this company had besides that one. But you know what? They offered it, I took it. Yea union that I didn't have to pay dues to, LOL
Scott Pezarras
7:37 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Mini
This needs to be negotiated out of their contracts, management cannot unilateral take these Holidays away.
KC
10:57 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Yah, get rid of those holidays including Christmas and let them all eat gruel. Don't give them any healthcare and let them live out their old age destitute. That will fix everything.
disgusted homeowner
11:36 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
pLEASE NAME A private company or business that gives ELECTION DAY OF WITH PAY!!!! I worked for a unionized company for over 20 years, had 11 holidays, neither coumbus day or election was 1 of them. Beat this one, in Toms River public works had off lincolns birthday on 2/13/12 and then the following monday they had off president's day. Talk about wasting the taxpayer's money.........................
Joseph Lamb
1:04 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Scott, you answered Thulen at trhe council meeting and said the $2.5 million was in this year's budget.
What gives?
Scott Pezarras
7:27 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Joe Mr Thulen said that not I. What i said was that it would go into surplus balance of the Twp.
Oscar Wilde
8:21 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Scott Houdini does it again.......and its gone.......poof !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAKsMnAM8vk
tom coleman
2:54 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
scott p is a professional-you need a competent administrator-juan b is another story! political appoinment sounds right. i urge the council to not fall for this nonsense and keep the good people of dpw-they do an honest days work and do not deserve this treatment. keep the budget static and form a task force to find ways to reduce costs or better yet find ways to increase revenue.
VICTOR FINAMORE
3:50 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
With an economy challenged, resources cut, state aid cut, gas going up, property taxes will continue to rise - there is no dobt that there is high pressure building among people with in the town.. as well among the politics with in the Township it's self.. everyone is feeling it and as the dog days of this summer coming - we are all going to feeel some sort of an fallout.
It's like a noose that has already been hung with everyone caught in between it's gasp. yes there is a problem, we need to find a solution now.. in this moment,, which is the most difficult thing to do,, We also have to realize that it's not only the DPW, it's a "ripple effect "- there are many other departments that may also be affected by this as well,, BTPD is also under a budget,, School systems as well...
and lets not forget- there is also another problem growing in our backyard - Lakewood is still "encroching it's ways in everyday "- pick a condo development in the area bordering Lakewood.. it doesn't take much to figure out .
we are not all apart of this needed solution now, or may have a majior problem much sooner than ever expected... the end result would become a spiral that would go into a flat spin whith no recovery.- I'm not pointing fingers, right now we need a working solution for all, and here we all have a chance offer those sugestions,, someone will be watching and reading. we all have a chance to voice our views and opinion here and at a Town meeting as well.
Fred Gee
5:22 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I'm not saying I am for having garbage pickup outsourced, but I am asking why would it be proposed to have each household enter into it's own garbage pickup contract, when it would be much more economically feasible to have the Township enter into a contract with a private company for the entire township, which would be paid for out of existing tax revenue with a decrease in cost to taxpayers? This seems to be the same scare tactic that was used in pushing to get the referendum passed is it not? Politics need to be put aside and there needs to be a joint effort in working with this problem, and that doesn't mean just throwing it out there and saying it is in your hands now. If necessary, sacrifices should be shared by all departments not just one!
KC
12:19 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
I agree w. Fred Gee, Share the pain! I think it is obvious that there is a new math economics at play in this country. I think what needs to happen in a fiscal crisis is EVERYONE from the top down takes a pay cut. Compared to being unemployed it is a picnic. I think cutting our police force is a terrible idea in light of many prior posts by various people pursuant to changing demographics. I would like to add, I have never personally witnessed anything but professionalism from the Brick PD. Their jobs cannot be a pleasure cruise with so much going on in the world and yes, right here in River City. When things go wrong Who ya gonna call - Ghostbusters?
VICTOR FINAMORE
5:22 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Heath Care is one of the largest cost to any plan, this is an area that everyone could find a solution to manage cost and keep employees working. Many companies are beging to use Sallary Bands to help cover cost evenly with out a burden. Example of Sallary Bands could look like - cost for Benefits to the employee along with in network Copays - Add 10% more for out of network Copays.
Income level: Benefits costing employee:
$0.00 - $49,999.99. 20% cost for insureance = Med/Rx/Den/Vis
$25.00-30.00 Co-pays in network
$50,000.00 - $99,999.99. 30% cost for insureance+ $35.00-40.00 Co-pays
$100,000.00 - $149,999.99. 40% cost for insureance + $45.00-50.00 Co-pays
$150,000.00 and greater. 42% cost for insureance +$50.00-60.00 Co-pays
What's included in Base Pay?
Hourly Employees:Hourly Rate x 2080 hours = Annual Base Pay.
Salaried Employees:Monthly Salary x 12 months = Annual Base Pay.
Base Pay does not include overtime, bonuses.
Educate employees- 401k, ROTH +FSA plans how to save,invest and tax breaks to benefit them.
Allocate flex scheduales to save OT expense - Utilize employees for shared services in town to keep jobs and cut cost.
purchase or deposit - Vaction time.
A single person in CA. pays an avg $1,800.00Mo. for medical with a 70-30 split of coverage. 30% is the out of pocket cost+ monthly preim for medical+Rx only.
Base Sallary Caps - not incld bonuses.
"sharring ideas to keep people working."
forthekids
6:40 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Everyone who voted for the King has gotten what they deserved. Did anyone really think he would serve the taxpayers with honesty and integrity? I never did and never will, THE PIGS CONTINUE TO FEED FROM THE TROUGH!!!!!!!!!!!! Brick MUA, TR MUA, Brick Housing Authority, political patronage pits of no show jobs for the pigs to fatten themselves. Finally, starting in April Big Mike R and Francis Gartland from Federal Hill Rick management will be prosecuted by the FEDS, and all the PIGS will be scurrying from the FEDS, you heard it here first. Oscar I thin k you are right there is going to be a tax revolt in this town, just when you thought our town couldn't get any worse.
BW
7:20 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
WTH?? Scott you are saying adding the 8 cents will keep us inside the cap?? Then why on Gods green earth is Steve being such a jackass?
In his attempt to make the new council members look like fools, he has dug that hole so deep he has no chance of climbing out of it. Yes jackass is the right word!
Scott Pezarras
7:40 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Me
The Mayor said that during his budget presentaion. He also said the taxpayers voted for tax relief.
BW
7:42 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
LOL Scott it wasnt tax relief we voted for it was ACROPOLIS RELIEF!
Scott Pezarras
7:50 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Me
I was just stating what the Mayor in his budget presentation. The Mayor seat is up in 2013.
BW
7:51 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Yes I know Scott, 2013 unless the God's think otherise.
localexpert
8:24 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Scott if you would be so kind.How many police officers have been hired since WE voted YES on the referendum? What is their starting Salary???? Thanks
Scott Pezarras
8:45 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
local
The twp hired replacements for officers that retired, the currtent amount of officers is 126, however one is not working and he has applied for retirement. Last year I believe we hired 9, one didn't finish the academy. They were hired at $28,999. We hired two recently one to replace the person that did not finish the academy, and one to replace a retirement. They were hired at the 2012 starting salary of $29,579.
It was stated last year that we were not going to increase the number of officers to 140+ which was the number mentioned in the independant audit that was performed by Matrix Consulting in order to achieve maximum benefit.
Oscar Wilde
8:49 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
how many active, retired and disabled police are the taxpayers paying for and what is the total dollar amounts for salary, pensions and health benefits
its not the 126 that is the problem, its everything else you dont see
paul b
4:28 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
It was my understanding that the number of police officers were to be capped at 125. Members of our governing body can confirm this assertion. The independent audit performed by Matrix Consulting was another unnecessary expense - costing the taxpayer about $40,000. Its primary purpose was to serve as a public relations tool which backfired but I will reserve further comment at this time.
brick mom 61
8:37 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I am posting this information here and on today's post also- I contacted the state Attorney General's office about the tax referendum and the subsequent lay off of the public works employees. I was refered to The Department of Community Affairs, specifically Acting Commissioner Richard Constable III. His number is 609-292-6420. A friend called the office and was told to email the director of the division. His name is Tom Neff and his email address is DLGS@dca.state.nj.us. We need to report this to the state, and not just vent our anger here. Maybe the right person will learn about this and do something.
Oscar Wilde
8:50 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
the only honest politician in America , may as well be talking about Acrapolis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R99hCsAchDk
forthekids
11:29 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Thank you Scott for coming on this forum and listening to the people, you have proven that you are a clear asset for the taxpayers of Brick. Your honest answers and quick response's show that you are well informed and excel at your position. The same can not be said for your constitutes who continue to decimate our town. Nov. 2013 is not that far away, hopefully that will be a new beginning. THE PIGS CONTINUE TO FEED FROM THE TROUGH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THEY MUST BE STOPPED
Scott Pezarras
1:11 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
forthekids
Thanks for the kind words, I can take the criticism some dish out on this forum because everyone has a right to express their opinions, but it is nice when some here acknowledge the effort. I have told many people to call my office to address their problems but few do.
frances
2:39 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Although it is virtually impossible to educate citizens on all aspects relative to municipal finances, our Business Administrator, Mr. Scott Pezarras demonstrates a magnitude of patience and understanding with the public at large.
1) The Department of Community Affairs (DCA) website is an excellent source of information which outlines the guidelines and specifics regarding municipal finances.
2) Further, anyone can submit an "OPRA" request through the clerk's office which will be forwarded to Human Resources for a salary/compensation history on each
individual employee. Make certain that you request a separate line item for each individual’s overtime received in year 2011. Include in your request a list of permanent employees and seasonal employees. Include in your request “new hires” in 2012 and pending title changes and promotions/salary increases for year 2012.
I would suspect that no "title changes or recent promotions with salary increases" have been implemented, given that 77 employees and families are at risk of having no job at all.
This should satisfy the recent numerous inquiries on this blog. Involved citizens make for the best citizens and knowledge is the key to good governance.
brickedup
3:01 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Hey Scott Pezarras
What are yor thoughts on Juan Bellu's tax lien situation?
Scott Pezarras
9:51 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
brickedup
I can't comment on this because I don't know about it.
Oscar Wilde
10:22 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Scott Pezarras couldnt tell the truth if he was given truth serum
brickedup
11:48 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Scott Pezarras,
You do now!
http://www.oceancountyclerk.com/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=5589822&file_num=2010092755&doc_status=V
http://www.oceancountyclerk.com/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=5589823&file_num=2010092756&doc_status=V
http://www.oceancountyclerk.com/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=5685118&file_num=2011011193&doc_status=V
George
9:03 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Scott Pezarras does a fine job for Brick but he doesn't have the final word it's the mayor who has the final word that causes most of the problems because he can't manage or budget money all he knows is how to borrow more instead of correcting the problems.
Sean Conneamhe
9:40 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
"Bee patient. Township officials are working to the best of their abilities to figure out the budget."
BillHeather
9:53 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
So essentially what Acropolis is doing, is “cutting taxes” and forcing the hand of the democratically held council. If they disagree with his budget (which they will) and put the “8 cents” back in, to save the DPW, then they are basically fighting a “tax cut” and increasing spending. Then they look bad. Hopefully they can put the funding for the DPW back in and find cuts elsewhere, like a less expensive health plan, less sick days for the DPW employees etc. They need to leverage this Acropolis ploy and turn it around on the Union.... either you give up a little or you’re all out of a job.
BW
9:59 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Bill PW has already agreed to cuts. They took a pay cut, along with other things. It is time for those in town hall to take some cuts, pay cuts, benefits cuts, holiday cuts, etc. Tell me exactly what does Bellu do to earn his 164,000plus benefits? And how the hell can he even be an ABA when the man has no idea how to even file his income tax? He now has over 210,000 in tax liens against him, according to the ocean county clerks office.
It is time to disband the friends and family club and make cuts in town hall.
George
11:32 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Me does Bellu even show up for work everyday?
BillHeather
10:17 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Me... couldn't agree more. Useless town hall figureheads making 6 figures all have to go. Why should any of them be making 6 figures in the first place? They all suck at their jobs, which is why Brick is where it is. There's fiscal mismanagement across the board. I wasn't just singling out the DPW, but they happen to have the floor at the moment. Bottom line is... this is a political ploy, not a cost savings measure. Acropolis knows there is no way this is going through. He put the ball in the democrats court for them to make the ugly decisions. I'm a republican and I can't wait to see Acropolis go.
disgusted homeowner
8:58 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
I think it's time for the supervisors and upper echelons of this administration to take the same cuts or even more that they forced onto so many of the township's other workers. DPW made significant concessions. Did all the managerial people do the same? I've heard not.
KC
1:47 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
I am in favor of pay cuts and maybe even benefit cuts be shared by administration who seemingly feel exempted. I am not in favor of holiday cuts. That serves no purpose but to destroy morale further. We are one of the most under-vacationed civilizations as it is. Remember how they wanted to make those bus drivers work on Thanksgiving Day in Lakewood! Taking holidays away seems draconian and serves no purpose. The one day delay in trash pickup is a minor inconvenience. It would only serve to encourage employers of non vital services (like retail) to force employees to work on holidays. I personally boycott those stupid holiday kill sales. Where are we going as a civilization when we have no holidays? I understand that there are many who perform vital services who don't have that option, but seriously?
patriotmfd
8:37 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Why are we (Brick Township) not in the state insurance program
APP article 2-29-12 NJ municipalities could save $100 million with state health benefits
http://www.app.com/article/20120229/NJNEWS1002/302290024/NJ-municipalities-could-save-100-million-state-health-benefits?
john
7:50 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
I dont understand this.Our government talks about cutting unemployment. Well how do you cut unemployment if you keep laying people off? Why cant we cut salaries (more so from the top) to help save jobs? I am sure if you asked these employees to take a pay cut to save their jobs and let them know if they do their jobs will be safe,then i am sure they would do it.
john
8:07 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
BIG DOG.....maybe you should knows some fact before you speak.Point Pleasnt is 1/5 the size of bricktown.also Point Pleasant has 52,000 LESS people then Bricktown,also Point Pleasant has 20,000 LESS homes then brick.So IF Point has only 5 trucks and 15 people (which i doubt)...how do you expect brick to downsize and get all that down with the same amount of people as Point?
Sean Conneamhe
8:26 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
"Many employees took a pay cut last year to save their jobs and were told that their jobs would be safe for at least four or five years."
Brick
9:55 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
Sean
I believe most employee's except for cops,JB,SP and the Mayor
Scott Pezarras
12:54 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Brick
You are incorrect we didn't have a raise at all last year. The TWU and the Teamsters took their contractual increase for part of the year then when they agreed to help out due to the referendum, it was discontinued from that time moving forward.
All unclassified employees received no raise in 2011, and we contibuted 1.5% of our salaries towards healthcare coverage before the Governor signed the bill into law.
Brick
9:59 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
Scott P
You say the people voted for lower taxes... 95% of the people of Brick also think your salary should be cut and Juan should be fired.. What says you?
Scott Pezarras
12:45 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Brick
I say they are entitled to their opinion.
Portia
4:12 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Scott, you are a highly competent effective and valuable Department Head. In my opinion, we are fortunate to have you and your caliber of expertise on a wide range of topics is required for a municipality of this size. Your level of knowledge relative to municipal government is unmatched and as such I consider my tax dollars well spent.
With that said, I feel the opposite about Juan Bellu.
Stinger
5:58 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
I'm beginning to think that a dictatorship is really the best form of government. The trouble is finding the right one.
Sean Conneamhe
6:35 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
"Nobody should have their pay cut and nobody should be fired or laid-off."
OceanCounty
9:04 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
1. The Mayor's proposal appears to be a shoot from the hip reaction; not very well thought out.
2. If the administration really feels that laying off the DPW will save the town money, why isn't the administration develoing and putting out a Request For Proposal for a contractor to do those services for the town directly. We all know you can get a better price through economies of scale.
3. The Mayors approach would dump the responsibilities of contracting for these services on the individual homeowners. While many towns currently operate that way, is that the hands-off approach we want from the people we trusted with our votes?
4. While the Mayor talks about savings on "trash" pick up, what are the additional costs each resident will incur for pick up of recyceables, bulk, leaves, and Christmas trees? Bulk pick can be expensive. Just think of the many times you run to the township recycle points during the year.
5. You will also be forced to hold onto stuff longer and consolidate bulk pick ups to save on pick up costs.
6. Will our tax bills really be reduced to cover the actual cost for pick up of the above? Somehow I doubt it.
7. The other consideration is if residents have to individually contract for trash/bulk pick up, they would lose the tax deduction.
OceanCounty
9:16 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
8. There is another area where the town could achieve cost savings, and possibly avert some of layoffs. Recently there have been articles in the Patch and APP which indicated that Brick paid more than $1M more per year during 2009 & 2010 for its health coverage than it would have under the NJ state health program. The administration contends that the savings are not that great for 2011 & 2012, and the state plan is underfunded, etc., but since the town's benefits are better than the benefits in the state's program, it's a more costly plan. The administration needs to work with the unions and transition to the state plan, and do what’s best for our town as a whole. How many jobs could be saved if Brick had a more cost effective health benefit program?
Spartacus
11:10 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
" In peril and yet happy "
Portia
3:18 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Year after year Citizens have recommended that the goal of our Governing body should be to significantly reduce and/or eliminate associated OVERTIME costs - more than a million dollars in savings could be realized.
Further, overtime expenditures should have to be analyzed and then approved at the Council Meetings (specific to the associated Overtime expenditure, not lumped into a generated bill resolution.) To-date overtime expenditures remain unchecked at the discretion of our highly paid Department Heads who are neither willing to share in the sacrifice by giving up their taxpayer vehicles.
Previous excuses provided for the use of most overtime is not substantiated, and I suspect that should overtime expenditures and approval of same be DISCUSSED at the Council Meetings, much needed accountability would be achieved and tax dollars would be saved.
Scott Pezarras
4:06 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Portia
Direction of the workforce is not within the Council's purview in our form of government. Your comment that OT is unchecked is incorrect, all OT driven by non-discretionary workloads that does not require administrative approval (storms, court, saturday garbage due to a holiday, and scheduled night events) is all controlled by contract. Discretionary OT MUST be approved by myself or the Mayor.
It is cheaper to utilize OT when needed then to hire additional employees with benefits.
I don't know what dept heads you are speaking of that have vehicles. The only people who take home vehicles are members of emergency management and the DPW supervisor that is on call, so that they can respond directly to a scene.
With regard to your statement of "dept heads not being willing to share in the sacrafice" they started contributing to required amount under Chap 78 of the healthcare reform bill prior to it being signed into law and took no pay raise in 2011.
We could not impose that on the unions they were subjected to the effects of Chapter78 when there contracts ran out at the end of 2011. Two of the units, Teamsters and TWU, agreed to give up their 2011 raises moving forward, after they had received them for a portion of the year. The Twp did not take them back, nor did it unilaterally take their raises, it was agreed by the two unions.
knarfie
4:19 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Portia, I tend to agree with you about Scott. Bellu is just a payback from the Mayor at the taxpayers' expense. It's a shame.
Portia
4:36 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Hi Knarfie, the Citizens of Brick must continue to speak our own minds and stay involved.!
Scott Pezarras
9:00 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Knrfie
I know I read up a few posts after I posted that, I appreciate the support.
Scott Pezarras
4:34 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Knarfie,
Portia did not say anything about me. What do tend to agree with?
Portia
4:38 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Scott, in response to blogger "Brick" I commended you for your knowledge and numerous contributions to our Township. Everyone have a good day!
Scott Pezarras
5:10 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Thank you Portia, your kind words are appreciated.
knarfie
8:36 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Scott, I believe she said she thinks you do a good job, but Bellu should go. I also think you do a good job, but Bellu is an Acropolis payback.
Portia
4:34 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Scott, I respectfully disagree. It is my hope that we can agree to disagree. In these economic times, we could and should reduce the cost of overtime in many areas. And since the Council controls the purse strings it is within their scope to review all expenditures. It was my understanding that the Department Head approved the overtime so forgive me for my misstatement. For that I do apologize. Please clarify: If someone gets overtime the request goes to you or the Mayor and then the Department Head lets the employee know that it has been approved? Is that the customary process?
In my opinion "The Get Up and Go" initiative whereby employees were allowed to leave work by 11:00 am or 12:00 pm has outlived its time. It no longer serves the Township well. and should be discontinued.
Regarding Department Head Vehicles and in this economic climate I do not see why a Department Head who lives in Brick could not just use his own vehicle during an emergency and submit mileage and the like.
Again, I always appreciate your input and contributions to the Citizentry of Brick Township.
Scott Pezarras
5:22 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Portia
If the OT is discretionary then yes, either myself of the Mayor has to approve that. Since we cannot control things like the weather, traffic stops, or other incidents of crime and the reports that are associated with them, if an event takes place and it drives OT to complete dealing with it, we have to adhere to the contract. Scheduled OT I totally agree. Many of recreations events occur after hours or on Saturdays and need to be supervised, although this is discretionary you wouldn't have the events and activities if we didn't have OT. Admin does ask the employee to consider comp time instead, but that choice is the employees by law.
The get it and go is somewhat of an anomaly when we did not have it in the past. The task of picking up the garbage drove OT everyday making this task more expensive, and the workforce adhered to the letter of the law regarding ordinances (size of brush, weight of cans, size of recyclable containers and the like) that created many complaints.
I guess the main goal is to get the garbage and recyclables off the streets, unfortunately get it and go works.
The vehicle thing is other than police personnel and several DPW employees that are involved with emergency mgmt., no dept head or division head takes a vehicle home.
The vehicles have equipment in them so using a personal vehicle would not work, I will make sure the Chief goes through the benefits of this during his presentation.
Scott
paul b
6:03 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Scott, does that mean that Department Head Glenn Campbell no longer has a taxpayer paid vehicle (In 2010 he did take home a vehicle at taxpayer expense?)
What is the TOTAL cost of overtime spent for year 2010 and 2011?
What is the TOTAL cost of overtime appropriated for in the proposed budget 2012?
Do you think that there are ways in which the Township could reduce overtime costs?
Scott Pezarras
8:58 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
paul b
Yes Director Campbell is p/o the emergency management. There was a time when every dept/div head had a car, but now it is reserved for emergency mgmt personnel and the DPW supervisor on call.
The OT is posted on the twp's website for each dept. 2011 appropriated and spent and requested for 2012.
Non-discretionary situational OT can not be reduced since it is driven by certain situations and is paid in accordance with contracts. Same with on call pay.
Discretionary OT is controlled and could be controlled further, but wouldn't have a lot of recreation and youth programs which are held after regular work hours. We do ask employees to flex their hours or take compensatory time but you cannot stop them from being paid OT it is a labor law. If we did not work on Saturdays when we have a Holiday in the week and skip trash and recycling p/u that week and if we didn't do OT during the week and on Saturdays during leaf p/u, or have council mtgs and caucus mtgs at night, and eliminate the free rabies clinic, we could cut a lot of discretionary OT.
This would be a cut in service levels that I think the people would not be happy with.
Stinger
7:12 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Maybe we can train the eagles on top of the cell tower to do tricks for extra cash.
Hey, If they want to live here they're gonna have to pay somehow.
paul b
11:15 am on Sunday, March 4, 2012
I would argue that the majority of folks who voted in favor of the April 2011 Referendum specifically voted in favor of the Referendum to maintain the Department of Public Works because they did not want to have the services provided by the Department eliminated.
Many were willing to do without other services but were adamant in keeping the trash pickup, recycling and the hill open. Yet, that is the one service that is slated for elimination . . .
Why do we continue to add on nonessential costs, new recreational programs for additional movie nights, line dancing, aerobics, etc. when we are asking the taxpayer to do without having their garbage picked up?
Currently, the collective bargaining agreement provides for an employee to work one evening a month- do we utilize that provision at all in an effort to cut down on overtime?
Upon entering into the Shared Service Agreement with Toms River a provision to pay out five percent in administrative costs was included. We could have saved a significant amount of money if we would have excluded that clause. Recently a Councilman brought up that $100,000 was expended for services. He probably is not aware that the agreement provides for a 5% administrative fee. We could have saved $5,000 without impacting services.
Although I recognize that we cannot unilaterally discard current agreements, going forward we need to rethink the way we distribute Overtime in Brick Township. The costs are staggering.
frances
1:50 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012
@ Ocean County, I am not in favor of eliminating the Department of Public Works. The people's VOTE should count and remain intact. Its demise would render all future Binding Referendums meaningless!
However, if the Township pursues this avenue and were to contract with an independent hauler on behalf of the residents, we would lose at minimum $600,000 taxpayer dollars that we would have to in turn reimburse the Condominium Associations, Apartment Complexes and the like due to the Municipal Services Act/Community Services Act. Savings would be significantly reduced.
Given the numerous Regulations and State Mandates that plague municipalities, we ought to reach out to our State Legislators and Governor for remedy/relief (as well as our local elected officials.) In my opinion, true property tax relief remains an enigma to the POLITICIANS in Trenton. It is a disturbing reality.
OceanCounty
2:10 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012
frances,....I am not in favor of eliminating the DPW, UNLESS Brick can achieve significant savings by contracting the work out, and when I say "contracting the work out" I mean the township contracting directly for equivalent services.
Pushing the contracting down to every homeowner is a non-starter in my opinion, and will more than likely cost us more, and since it will cost more, there are many folks who simply cannot afford it. Additionally, it will more than likely result in increased "dumping" throughout the township. How much will it cost to replace the convenience of the recycle centers?
Moves such as this show how little the Mayor thinks about the people. It's a political move that doesn't make much sense.
The administration simply needs to "Do it's job" and implement cost savings efficiencies to preclude these ill conceived cuts.
frances
4:26 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012
In total agreement with you that it simply makes no sense! It would be my hope that no one in their right mind could believe that it would be acceptable to overturn the "Historic Binding Referendum of 2011."
Lori Morrison
2:17 pm on Sunday, March 4, 2012
Senior citizens make up a large portion of our population. The PTR (property tax relief) program also known as the "senior freeze" provides reimbursement to our seniors and disabled starting at the base year they apply. For example, if you start the program in 2010 and your property taxes paid were $2000, and you pay $3000 for the year 2011, you will be reimbursed $1000, and every year after that your reimbursement will be the amount you paid over your 2010 base year. By eliminating the DPW services and forcing them to pay out of pocket, that is money that many seniors and disabled need to survive. I do not think the Mayor is proposing this to lower taxes, by watching his actions and listening to him at meetings this is more of a personal vendetta. I hope that anyone who may qualify for the PTR program gets the information and applies. My mother's property taxes doubled, and was reimbursed by the program. Let your neighbors, friends and family know that there is help out there!
Sophia Loyd
9:30 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012
I do not care how long it takes the DPW to do their job, yes they are TERRIBLE AT IT. I have to call almost every week because they "forget" my house, and I have to call for bulk pick up numerous times... but that is okay, you know why? Because I do not want to have to be controlled by a disposal company. Sure its inconvenient that I have to call up sometimes but I pay very little from my taxes for that service as compared to what private services will charge me. I will not be getting the money they say this will save everyone and don't fool your self neither are you. So what does that mean? It means I will be paying the same amount of taxes (actually I will be paying more because the towns "assessment" is bogusly high ) AND of course I am in turn responsible for paying for private disposal.
What is going to seriously suck when and if they get rid of the DPW are:
1. having to coordinate my current garbage day with the private company, I will expect terrible traffic if 3-5 different disposal companies try to pick up trash on my block on the same day.. being a blunt dead end and all..
2. subcode officals are going to go ticket crazy writing out sanitation violations for people who try and reduce the amount of pick ups they get by storing two weeks or so of trash.
3. Neighbors are going to complain like crazy about people who decide to get small 1-2 yard dumpsters.
knarfie
9:36 pm on Wednesday, March 7, 2012
I have called public works several times to pick up various items at my house and they
have always arrived when promised without a problem, so I must disagree with you about the service. Also the people on the phone I spoke to about the pickups have always been very polite . I have never had a problem with them.