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Refuge Manager: No Chance F-Cove Will Reopen For Summer 2012

Process will determine future access to Barnegat Bay site

 

Before a packed township council meeting Tuesday night, the manager of the Edwin B. Forsythe National Wildlife Refuge told boaters from across the Jersey Shore that one of their favorite destinations would be off-limits this summer.

Virginia Rettig told dozens of angry boaters that any recreation in the areas known as F-Cove and T-Cove must be tied to wildlife, and "boating, for boating's sake ... is what we call, 'not an appropriate use of a wildlife refuge.'"

Technically, Rettig said, public access was never allowed at the 12-acre cove off Barnegat Bay, which got its name because its lagoons – once slated to be a residential housing development – are in the shape of the letter 'F.'

But since 1991, when the federal government took over the site and included it as part of the refuge, the access ban was never enforced, partly because there was a question as to who owned the actual waterways in between the federally owned land. Last year, Rettig said, a determination was made after consultations with the state and government lawyers that the waterways were under federal jurisdiction, mainly because they were manmade, and thus not a naturally-occurring tidal flow area.

That explanation did not sit well with members of the boating community, nor township council members.

"It just hurts," said Brick resident Kevin Kohler. "People spent their entire lives there, they have memories there."

"One could kind of compare this to what's going on with the Port Authority and the toll hikes — ram it through, and then ask questions later," he added.

"What wildlife is being harmed?" asked Point Pleasant Beach resident Chris Cavaiola.

"We have not done specific studies that have addressed that," Rettig replied, to a round of grumbles from the audience.

"Honestly, I think this is a little too much government," said Councilman Domenick Brando, who pledged to contact federal and state officials in hopes of working out a solution.

Next Steps

While Rettig said the cove will definitely remain closed for the 2012 summer season, a formal review will begin next fall which will eventually determine the scope of public access — if any — that will be allowed in the area.

Under federal law, any public access to a designated wildlife refuge must be specifically tied to wildlife. Six activities are allowed: hunting, fishing, wildlife observation and photography, and environmental education and interpretation.

Some parts of the Forsythe refuge are open to the public, including the Holgate portion, where four-wheel drive vehicles can access the beach so people can fish.

Several members of the audience called on Rettig to reopen the coves while the review process is taking place, a suggestion that she said will not come to fruition.

"If we're allowing the public in there, engaging in activities which we haven't authorized, I'm responsible, and we really don't want anybody getting hurt," she said.

Many members of the public who spoke blasted the agency for disallowing access to 12 acres of the 47,000 acre refuge, which stretches from Brick Township to Galloway Township.

Hypothetical scenarios were discussed that would see the federal government relinquishing the land back to the township in the event that Brick exchanged F-Cove for more environmentally valuable pieces of wetland. Though a long shot, Rettig acknowledged such deals have been made before.

But such a scenario aside, the formal process for gaining back access to the site will include an environmental review and public comment period which will begin in September. Eventually, a determination will be made whether the coves can be reopened to some type of public access, which may or may not include powerboats.

"I actually sympathize," Rettig told boaters. "However I have a management responsibility as the manager of a national wildlife refuge, and this is the point where we are with these two sites."

Related Topics: brick nj news and f-cove

bayboat

6:03 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

"Wildlife education and interpretation" are allowed.

Well, when I'm sitting on my boat in F cove, looking at all the trees, bushes and seagulls,(wildlife) that's my interpretation of happiness.

Does that count?

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Kathy Willenbucher

9:03 am on Sunday, May 27, 2012

Contact your Senator. I have written. Everyone should if he gets enough letters he will get the message. His website www.ocean.nj.us/stateandfederaloffiicalpage.apx. Below is my email to him.
Dear Mr Lautenberg,
I have been a resident in Brick NJ for 9 years. I pay my taxes and vote. I am extremely upset with the decision to close F-COVE in Brick NJ. This was a wonderful place to take the family on a boating day. It is close to my house and with the price of gas made a nice boat trip and day out without breaking the bank. I would like to know how a decision can be made that significantly effects the quality of life of the local taxpayer without a vote. This area is 13 acres area of many many acres. It is used by the public only during the summer. The new manager, Virginia Retting, has decided this should be closed. Large oil companies can spill gallons and gallons of oil into the waterways for gain and greed. However, the small taxpayer should not be allowed to beach their boat where birds nest. Next door a dreg project for Trader's Cove has done been going on for 2 years no one has closed them down. This is the first letter I have ever written to our government. I am posting it on the close fcove website along with your information. I feel we the taxpayer have no say on what happens to our own local community. I can only tell people to write you and state their displeasure. I for one will show mine at the polls.

Greg Thompson

6:09 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

F cove is a big party spot and I've seen drunkin boaters in there. When they leave they are a danger to anyone out on that water. Never mind it's a refuge, someone can can hurt or killed. I wonder if anyone in that cove ever call marine police to report drunkin boaters? If not you should be. It may be your own life you save... Lets face it folks, that river and bay is a mad house in the summer and the party spot "F cove" is part of the problem.

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Resident

6:41 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Greg, using your interpretation of a few bad apples, should all bars be closed too?

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I know

8:09 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Resident... Bars don't serve alcohol to minors or allow the behavior that goes on in F cove. I agree it's a beautiful spot buts anyone who has been there knows its just an out of control party spot. Here's my question...if you had a 16 year old daughter, would you let her hang out there???

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Resident

9:31 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Iknow, Seriously? You don't think there are bars that serve underage drinkers? How bout closing down every store that sells cigs, don't tell me you don't see minors with a cig in their mouths everywhere you go? As for the 16yr old daughter comment, you will always have kids being kids, I would bet you might have crossed the line as a teenager spreading your wings,no? My point is, if the behavior is rowdy POLICE IT and remove the bad apples so it doesn't ruin the bunch. Police it and educate the boaters on what is expected and if not followed then they will lose it, not the other way around. I find it hysterical that it is ok to use the grounds to hunt down and kill animals on it, but don't disturb the animals with loud music or drinking beer..........

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resident

11:09 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Close F cove and the partying and drunken boaters go away? You probably think the world is going to end this year also.

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Chris Conwad

11:07 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012

That was actually the lamest thing ive ever heard, shut up.

Resident

6:40 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Federal law allows access for hunting,fishing photography etc. So every boat owner simply needs to have a fishing pole or a camera when they enter.

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lisad

7:14 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

don't forget a gun...lmao.....I think what needs to be done is someone needs to read up on the rules and regs and whether since its considered Federal, do we have open access to do those "wildlife" related things? and if so all we do need is a fishing pole or a camera...i guess i'll try that and find out...i doubt they will fine me 5 grand and up to 6 years in prison...

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bayboat

8:50 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Yeah! Who says I cant party while I engage in photography?

slow news

6:57 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

What a slow news week. I wana hear more about birdshell!

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Daniel Nee

10:55 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Slow News -- F-Cove is among our most read topics of all of 2012 and last night, it led to the highest attendance at a town council meeting I've seen in a long time. It's a township issue and we will continue to report on it.

What is "birdshell?" Are you referring to the "Birdsall" engineering story from last week? It does not appear as if there is a Brick connection to that (reportedly has to do with Middlesex County politics) but if there is anything related to the township we'll report on it.

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Resident

12:08 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Daniel, Fantastic job you do with this site. Thank you.

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JHill

2:37 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Yes, Daniel. Keep up the good work.
There is a lot that goes on in this town that nobody would know about if it weren't for you and the Brick Patch. Good job--keep it up.

rd

8:09 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

brave lady. that area of the bay is a mess. it needs to clean up this is a good start

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Danny

8:12 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Sounds like Rettig is more concerned about being sued if someone is hurt than actually doing her job. Maybe she should be fired and put someone in there who knows what they are doing. To close this off after so many years without having done any studies to see if the boaters are causing any harm is a complete sham. Rettig needs to go. Where are our Congressman when needed.

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lisad

8:34 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

playing the devils advocate, do you blame her. people sue for broken toe nails and i am sure there is a lot worse that goes on in there. last year some a-hold jumped off his hard top and landed 5 feet from my bow...my props are still moving even tho I was at a standstill. In the end, a few people ruined it for a lot of people.

lisad

8:32 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

I don't think people understand the ramifications of this...next it will be Tice's as they have been researching the damage boaters are doing to the seagrasses...mark my words...pretty soon it will be "no leaving the actual intercoastal and channels"

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SoylentGreen

10:41 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Boaters have only themselves to blame.

John T Vogel Jr

8:55 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

New spot this summer. Applegate Cove. It's between inter coastal channel markers 24 & 26, to the west. Check out Applegate cove on Facebook.

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Fight F Cove

9:20 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

All of the folks who are AGAINST this closure - please join our Facebook page.

http://www.facebook.com/FightClosingFCove

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SoylentGreen

9:50 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Good! Keep it closed. The Jersey Shore wanabes and juice heads will have to go elsewhere.

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Paul Michaelis

11:53 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012

Your name indicates a lack of same, I've been a boater for 64 years and when I visited F cove I saw none of your description. What I saw was a group of people having a good time and pretty much being civil and certainly a lot cleaner than even the GSP with all their taxpaid cleanup crews. I would rather see the "partying" taking place in this location than distributed along navigation channels. This group of citizens deserves a suitable location like F cove certainly as much as the birds and much more than the complainers who aren't disturbed because they don't live near there. Since most of these people pay taxes, why aren't they entitled to some benefit? The birds and animals in this area have accommodated humans for more years than most people can remember and can certainly do so for 3 to 4 months of the year. This is merely another instance of "Big Brother" having to be dominant. After all, If government can't demonstrate power what else can it do to justify it's existence.

Life

9:52 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

so you can hunt and kill the wildlife but your trying to save the wildlife??

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Tom Cular

9:59 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Like a lot of things, a few ruined it for many. Too many BENNIES. Find a spot in Jersey City or Hoboken.

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Life

10:03 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

It just seems kind of odd that F-cove has been there 50 plus years? Now all of a sudden it can't be used at the same time that the new " Brick Township Park" formally Traders Cove is being developed !

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Mr. McMurphy

10:41 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

If a couple of boats a F cove will destroy the wildlife, why is it okay to have a full blown paved over parking lotted boat marina, with over 100 slips and many more morings with gas and oil being used and spilled all over the place, just a couple of feet away?

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Barry Russo

10:52 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

More and more of Brick being taken away, and more and more gang-bangers and fist pumpers moving in. Whats left in brick to enjoy, the cesspool known as Windward Beach? Or the future Foodtown lot, maybe the run down Ice Rink? You can' t really enjoy the beach from May-September because the Jersey Shore wannabies are here from NYC and North Jersey. So what do you idiots do all summer, hide in your 40+ year old bungalows?

LMAO at Brick, man how the mighty have fallen.

;)

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Jerry Marzarella

11:50 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

I brought up exactly that point at last nights meeting. Ironic that F-Cove was fine for decades until the Traders Cove debacle came about. Naturally Ms. Rettig said there was no connection but then she didn't have an answer for anything. Had the mayor been there maybe he could have answered that question but I'm sure if there is a relationship between the two that it was some backroom deal that we won't find out about until indictments come down.

Chief Wahoo

10:34 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Land of the free...... What a joke !!!!

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SoylentGreen

10:40 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Oh please. We are not and have never been free to do whatever we want.

BrickAmericanMan

11:04 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Join me at treasuer island! I have many fond memories of the f-cove and hope that one day it will reopen.......what about if we beach up along the banks right outside the cove entrance? Or maybe Cattus island park beach? lets see how they like all of us there.

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Joseph Woolston Brick

11:07 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

So you won't open F-Cove for 2012? I bet we as a township can get together and do just that. How? Go over Rettigs head. She has to have a boss and if he/she doesn't do it, then they have a boss too. People just don't lay down and die, start calling, emailing, snail mailing. We will get that cove open and with a little luck, get it turned over to the township, the Feds have no business owning it or having jurisdiction over it either. Rettig is afraid of being sued, OK there has to be something to sue her for, for closing F-Cove. There's a lot of smart people living in this town, lets do this! Find the loop hole people!

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lisad

11:35 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

some of you people really do sound like idiots. there are over 47,000 acres through out south jersey "owned" by the federal government, i for one am happy that we do have some natural resources left and protected. Rettig has a point about being sued although she didn't use that as an excuse we all know its true. I do agree that there has got to be a loophole but all in all the pigs and drunks ruined it for all. How do you propose we get it turned over to the township, do you really think Brick wants the added liablity of potential lawsuits when someone gets seriously hurt while being drunk?? or just seriously hurt in any other way. I as a Brick Tax payer don't see that as an answer.

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Resident

3:16 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Typical grouchy old man mentality.....

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Joseph Woolston Brick

10:53 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Your all wrong on every comment. I don't own a boat, I can't afford one, I'm too busy paying my property taxes. I've never been to F-Cove, T-Cove or and other lettered cove in my life. What I'm concerned about, is how much is being taken away from us, the regular hard working person by either the government or the rich. This is the way I look at it. If Miss Rettig can't control what's going on in F-Cove and the only way she can is to close it and deny EVERYONE the use of it, even the people who are obeying the laws or cleaning up after themselves, then maybe she shouldn't be in charge, maybe she has reached her Peter Principle in life and should be replaced! Doesn't she have the marine police or some kind of law enforcement at her beck and call? Then send them in there and ticket the hell out of the abusers, a few good tickets and big fines and the word will get out and the crap will end. As far as the natural resources, I'm all for saving the forests, animals and the environment, but within reason, where was their concern when Brick teaming with wild life?

TheMagicRat

11:10 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Let me get this straight. In an effort to save wildlife, boating is prohibited. But you can hunt and fish there?

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TD83

11:37 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Resident.....bars have liquor licenses and the responsibility to flag people.....Fcove does not

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SoylentGreen

11:43 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

They also have bathrooms. In F Cove, the whole place is your toilet.

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Resident

12:21 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

TD83, and it is the responsibility of boat operators to follow the law, if they don't that is what we pay police for,no? Also, I do not think it is illegal for non operators of the boat to drink if they choose.

TD83

11:57 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Last time I was this past summer....there were beer cans / trash everywhere . And some guy floating in the middle drinking a beer, not a care in the world....and almost got ran over by a boat!!!! I do like going there once and awhile, but it's just not safe! They are basically grounded them for the summer , hopefully teaching them a lesson.

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Chris Conwad

11:10 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012

ground us for drinking, what a joke. lets just close every bar up n down the jersey shore?

GaryR

12:22 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Sad...Big Brother strikes again. At some point in time, wildlife will have more legal rights than us humans...and judging by what this Federal representative says, that day is right around the corner.

While the Government's line of thinking may work in the heartland of America where they protect certain species on tracts of land that encompass thousands of acres away from large areas of our population, you need a different approach along the coastlines where the population is considerably more dense...and judging by her comments they obviously don't have a clear cut plan other than to say they'll feel their way through it. No doubt this study coming this Fall will take FOREVER to the point most will forget about it because they'll throw grant money out to some University to drag this on and on and on....

Judging by these results, I wonder if I can marry a Whooping Crane so I can get a low interest Federal loan to open a new business?

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Jerry Marzarella

11:54 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

You're wrong Gary, wildlife already has more rights than we do. The worst part is there have been zero studies done on the effects on wildlife and at this point there's no plan to do one.

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Joseph Woolston Brick

2:47 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012

Obama has announced his support for marrying Whooping Cranes today. Feel free! I myself will be looking for beaver.

Citizen

1:03 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Look up NJ Easement laws (Easement by Prescription) you may have something there.

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brick strong

1:39 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

For years Brick and all ocean towns business have made large amounts of money and that helps them survive and now your saying we want one area to close hummm ..what about the bars that stay opened till 1 a.m. and all those folks drive home sober ??? What I'm saying the drinking problem's are all over and we look at just certain areas to post "theres a problem there "..open your eyes ..and what about the pill problem thats hitting our schools by storm...??

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Pauly Michaelis

2:47 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

I was at the hearing last night. I asked several question with fact base points and I was told that she could not answer the question at this time but if I would contact her department that all my questions would be answered. I sent several emails this morning. Let see how long it takes them to get back to me. I'm guessing they will get lost. One positive out come. The entire Brick counsel was supporting not to close the cove!

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Mike

2:57 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Don't expect an answer too soon. I sent an email last week and have not received any answer. And, yes... Pauly, I agree.. it seemed that the council was in agreement to help support us. However, they also pointed out that the case is now federal and they have no say. Their suggestion to escalate this matter to senators and congressmen was the only proper step in the right direction heard last night.

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lisad

4:42 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Pauly were you the one who included a question about who the soliciters were? or were you the doc? both of you were good....

Mark Story Jenks

3:02 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

I wonder who started calling it F Cove? It's not a cove at all. It's man made Lagoons.

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baybabe

3:12 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

This isn't going to stop the"typical boaters" whatever that means, besides being envious.. Its not going to stop partying in the bay, the roudiness etc.. In fact, its going to force us to find a shallow area in the bay to "get naked" and party. I hope when you drive or should I say, when you are (stuck in traffic)on the mantoloking bridge you get a glimpse of me and my white ass clear as day, cause you will, you bunch of jealous, poor, pathetic residents of Brick.

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JHill

4:05 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Eww--you swim in the bay?
I have news for you--your "white ass" is going to have all red spots all over it from the sea nettle stings.

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John

6:49 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012

we should all just anchor outside of the cove instead

baybabe

4:10 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

I said I will be laying out on my boat..

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Jim

4:16 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Get the Fed the f_ck out of Brick!

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baybabe

4:36 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

And since you bring up sea nettles, its a fact that they are in our bays from "run-off" of pesticides and fertilizer.. I wonder how many on the anti-f-cove supporters care about the bay and wild life when they fertilize their lawns? Sickening.. Or why don't you just blame the activity in the f-cove for all the problems? Jack asses.

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lisad

4:45 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

I really really wish i would have thought to bring up the sea nettles/jelly fish and ask her what they WERE doing about it. (got tongue tied up there as i've never stood before a town council) Seems to me you go after some of the MAJOR problems first...F Cove does not come across as a major baywide issue at this time. The jelly fish problem IS. have you seen the size of the ones floating in to our lagoons right now, as big as man o wars. I think that issue should be paramount, talk about taking away tourism dollars...THAT is what SHE should be focusing on.

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You know me

4:55 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Look up F cove on YouTube and tell me that everyone there is there to just enjoy nature. We made our bed now we can sleep in it.

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John

6:48 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012

your an idiot, make your bed and suck it

slow news JR

5:43 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

@Daniel Nee: Birdsall is the right name, yes.. So you dont think the biggest engineering company that is hired by brick township being involved in making bogus campaign contribution isnt news? Arent you suppose to be reporting for brick township? Maybe if you weren't so politically strong armed on what to say; when to say it, you wouldnt be worried reporting more on the story. Birdshall is being investigated by the attorney general's office and you totally went left wing on us and totally didnt report the facts.

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Daniel Nee

8:38 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

I never said it wasn't news. But the raid didn't happen in Brick, and there is no indication the investigation has anything to do with Brick.

If a Brick connection develops, we'll report it. Until then, we'll let the Middlesex County Patch sites report on Middlesex County political scandals. Not sure why that makes me a left-wing strong-arm guy. If I was the type of person you accuse me of being, I would have deleted your post and refused to address it.

Upset Union Member

9:16 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Dan you need to report more on birdsall and what involvement they had doing business with brick township. I dont know what your waiting for or who's telling you not to report the news, but its pretty obvious. I'm sure most of the patch members who read brick news didnt know they were the engineering firm that dealt business with brick and the ones who did know would like to know what involvement brick had contributing to their campaign donations. Why wasnt contributions posted as to how much they gave acropolis for his campaign or why they made multiple $299.00 donations so they didnt have to report anything? This is the news brick needs to know. No one cares about a bunch of mad bennys from static island that cant party anymore on their multi million dollar lagoons.

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JHill

10:57 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Instead of being a coward hiding behind fake screen names why don't you call the FBI with all of your inside information.
Creep.

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Daniel Nee

1:11 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012

UUM -- I have nothing against covering the Birdsall issue at all. We can run future stories on it if it develops into something that is connected to Brick. And we'll have all the public records available for everyone to see, just as we have had in the past in stories affecting both Republicans and Democrats.

As for this story - I see the traffic stats. Believe me, people care! And for the record, nobody who could be construed as a "benny" spoke at last night's meeting ;)

brick taxer

9:42 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Dan, the tax payers need to know how much birdsall gave acropolis for the election. Is this how acropolis was able to pay for all those fancy wood signs all around the town? Dan i know birdshall is a middlesex county company, but they did businees with brick. This isnt similar and good news to let he tax payers know about? Aww sad that acropolis is puling the "oh sheit dan (delete that post) handle"

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SoylentGreen

3:10 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012

Let us know how that works out for you

Fcovebaby

12:30 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012

So we can hunt and fish. Let's everyone go MDW...hunt, fish, and kill every animal there. When no wildlife is left to protect, what's the point of enforcement?

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SoylentGreen

3:12 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012

You sound like the typical F Cove boater. No wonder they closed it.

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lisad

6:05 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012

I truly hope this is a joke out of frustration, if not you are probably one of those who ruined it for all of us with that mentality.

Greg Thompson

6:50 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012

Well Resident. Being I've been sober nearly 20 yrs closing the bars wouldn't bother me one bit. But of course that won't happen. People need to be responsible for them selves like I try although I'm no where near perfect. This story is about F-cove and nothing else. As it goes a few bad apple do spoil the bunch. It only takes one for a tragedy to happen, y'all should of been policing yourselves. I presume your not a bad apple and am sorry you lost your spot. As a reply to some others bout bringing a gun to the cove to hunt LOL. There's no open hunting season during those months. Don't get caught by the Warden cause then you'll know trouble real quick. As someone posted below. "We made our bed now we have to sleep in it" As another poster said check out youtube for F-cove. Think I'm gonna ck Youtube, I bebeive I already know what I'll see. Good luck and be safe where ever you end up. Things go bad in seconds... On the water or off...

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Kristy

8:07 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012

I love the whole irony of the situation. She wants to protect the environment and wildlife, however we might be allowed back in there someday as long as you promise to kill some animals by hunting or fishing.

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Barry Russo

8:50 am on Friday, May 11, 2012

I am all for reopening F-Cove. I would rather have these drunk, moronic idiots urinating, crapping and puking in that place off the beaten path, then doing it on the beaches. Let them destroy F-Cove for all I care. If we could somehow run 24 hour episodes of Jersey Shore in F-Cove, we could attract all the fist pumpers and Snookie lookalikes into the cove. Then we can enjoy the beaches during the summer months like in days of old.

Better yet, why not open a bar right in F-Cove? That way they get all the nutrition they need. Let them kill the wildlife in there to survive, and drink from the bar for nutrition. Imagine going to the beach in July and actually being able to play with your children again, instead of covering their ears and eyes from the embarrassment of these North Jersey and NY degenerates.

If I had it my way, I would set ONE giant roach trap in F-Cove. They check in, but never check out.

Ahhhhh, I can dream.

Upset Union Member

8:54 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012

@Jhill: It's not the FBI its the Attorney General's Office.. This is why dan needs to report the story more so left wing advocates who dont know what their talking about gets an education like you deserve.

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brick strong

5:40 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012

Hey youtube f..cove ..no great lose to me ..they will find another spot to party ,drink,dance ..no biggie

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Nik

8:27 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012

I have never been to F Cove nor really intend to. But I have a ton of family & friends that have frequented the area for years. Yes , I guess there is a large chunk of people (mostly young seasonals) who disrespect the space. Why can't we find a way to just deal w/ THAT???? How does this woman (who seems to keep having circular conversations w/ herself) keep saying its hazardous to the wildlife? It was originally created for real estate development!!!!! I assure you that would have caused far more damage to the entire county!!!!

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craig

11:51 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012

Hello all. Craig here. If anyone attended the Brick township meeting, I was the first to speak in the Q&A session.

We are planning on suing Fish and Wildlife in Federal Court in the next couple of weeks.

We will be setting up a dedicated web site as soon as possible to keep everyone informed of our progress.

Please stay tuned!

We have not yet begun to fight. We have all lost a big part of our freedom due to this unilateral power grab by 2 unelected federal officials (specifically Virginia Rettig and her as-yet-unnamed solicitor).

This action can not, and will not, go unchallenged.

Virginia Rettig has 47,800 acres to manage in her region of the Edwin B. Forsythe refuge (in just Ocean and Atlantic counties). The F-Cove and T-Cove together comprise less than 1/10th of 1% of the refuge.

I'll leave it there for now. More information will be posted ASAP!

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Jerry Marzarella

12:58 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012

I was at the meeting. Craig, you set the bar very high for everyone that followed you at the podium. Please keep us posted as to plans going forward. Have you considered a Facebook page or something similar to update supporters

lisad

9:04 am on Sunday, May 13, 2012

a question if i may. just what is suing going to do. As Retig said, F Cove is a Wildlife Reserve owned/managed by Dept of Fish and Game and was never really opened to partying, underage drinking, trashing, and dangerous play. There is not one person who has gone into F Cove on a weekend in the summer and not witnessed at least 3 or the 4. what is there to sue? Its the effing lawyers that got this country into this mess by suing for everything and now the Dept of Fish and Game doesn't want to be held responsible for someone getting hurt. As much as i hate the thought we lost it, I understand why. Another point and i will preface this by saying i've had waverunners for almost 15 years and like to think i am reponsible however, going into T Cove to hang with some friends, watching all the IDIOTS come flying in on their wave runners racing, making wakes, spinning while they are within 200' of land in an area of no wakes probably had something to do with it to. I would always say to people on my boat, "that is what is going to close these places to us" and i'd yell at them but i'd get the finger or whatever....people make their beds i guess they have to lie in them too. Good luck suing the federal government.

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craig

1:49 pm on Sunday, May 13, 2012

Hello Lisa. I'll be brief but let me explain thusly:

The F-Cove and T-cove are closed because Virginia Rettig and her solicitor unilaterally determined that Fish & Wildlife have jurisdiction over the water that flows in and out of the F-Cove. This is a new legal position. The short version of how this legal determination came about is simply this (I am paraphrasing here): "Because we say so". It is the arguments they internally thought sufficient that we intend to challenge and have reversed.

I have spoken to Virginia Rettig. If nobody ever did anything in the F-Cove except pull in a power boat on a Tuesday pre-season afternoon to sit in silence and eat a sandwich on their own boat, that trespasser is harming wildlife and is to be arrested, fined, and possibly imprisoned. Her world view is incompatible with law abiding, nature loving, respectful motor boaters from entering the coves. Furthermore, she cannot envision said boater entering the coves with a paid season's pass with a boat hull registration regime and contractually agreed code of conduct.

I might point out to those of you who aren't on the same page with the local tax-paying residents who enjoy the coves in a respectful manner that once this federal power grab sets in, the coves will be off limits as long as the federal government exists. Notwithstanding the Mayan prediction of worldwide apocalypse, that pretty much means forever.

I gratefully accept your kind wish for good luck.

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John

6:46 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012

Thanks you fucken piece of shit for closing it. I hope the cove fucks u in the face u dumb bitch

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green

3:11 pm on Friday, May 25, 2012

Why not ban all boat traffic on the Barnegat Bay while we're at it?

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