Ok. Now tell us where this money is going & how it's spent! This money needs to be accounted for in Brick. I'm waiting.........

Carol is right. Where is the money going? Can we expect full disclosure or will the money be buried as usual? Maybe the Mayor can spend it on snow removal so we don't have to listen to the constant whining about the blown snowstorm budget.

How long will the township be paying ATS for? $17,800 per month nets them $213,600 a year. At what point do they stop receiving money? At the 5 year mark they would have gotten $1,068,000.00 from the ticketing, are the cameras worth that much??

I noticed lots of cameras in Toms River also. I hope they are real, beacaue red light running is actually a sport down here. I hope they are producing tickets,too.
It's life threatening to reach any intersection now.
Linda

this is a 5 SECOND light unlike the 6 second lights on the other Route 70 cameras!

Too bad they don't catch the same type of folks with a cell phone to their ear!

I have 2 questions: #1 - Is there a legal amount of time that the light must stay yellow before turning red? I believe I heard there was but it seems these lights turn MUCH faster than they used to and the amount of seconds also varies as I have noticed sitting at the lights in this town. #2 - The town keeps boasting about all this money they are making on these cameras but I have not heard one thing about where all this money is going...Shouldn't there be a full report for all the taxpayers with everything spelled out in detail as to where this money will be spent so that we make sure it goes to useful purposes like fixing our crumbling roads and all the many other parts of our town that are falling apart???

Most likely the monies collected go into the general fund. Where I live, in california, our red light tickets cost $391.00! Best to avoid those intersections. It's a big scam and the camera companies are making $$$$, while we get screwed.

I have noticed some days it seems the lights dont last long at intersections. hmmmm makes a person think...

Good observation. More cities are doing this. In California, they have to be a minimum 4.3 seconds, at camera intersections. this greatly decreases tickets. Depends on the charter amendment when cameras were approved. There are also federal minimums and some cities got caught being shorter than that. I've heard my city is losing $, and I am glad :).

I don't understand how people can say we are getting "screwed"?? Don't speed, don't run a red light and you won't get a ticket. Sounds simple to me. I live off of DrumPoint Road and use both those roads all the time. I have NEVER, not ONCE, gotten a ticket. Why you ask? I don't speed, I don't run the light, thus I do not get a ticket. I am a pregnant mother with 2 small children in the car with me. Its MUCH more important to me we make it home safe, rather than fast. PS I was an EMT for 10 years. Guess how many deaths I saw because of speeding and running red lights. Thats right, too many.

The reason most people get these tickets is for "rolling" through the light. The drivers did not come to a complete stop. Only a very small percentage actually runs the red light. This is just a revenue enhancer at the expense of the public.
This $670,000 could have been better spent by the public rather than turning it over to the Town and out of state people.

Is that fact or opinion? How do you know how many are given out for that? And correct me if im wrong but isn't rolling through a red light illegal?

My statement is fact. The overwhelming majority of tickets are given for making a right turn on red and not coming to a full stop. This hardly constitutes a threat to other drivers.

I love Fred's suggestion. If that money went into a snow removal fund, we would NEVER have to worry about that cost again!

What is the percentage of tickets that are given for making a right turn on red? How big is the majority? How do you know this?

You made the statement, so the burden of proof is on you.

And again, is it illegal to roll through a red light? Whether or not it is a threat in your mind, it is illegal. So one can assume it is your position that people should not have to adhere to the traffic laws. If a motorist went past your home doing 75 mph at 3 am, would that person be able to say "there was no one on the road...my speeding hardly constitutes a threat to other drivers" ?

It's a study by AAA over the years. It's a national statistic. Driving at 75 MPH is dangerous. Making a right turn on red hardly is in that category. Why don't you use your real name? You sound like the administration.

Probably getting paid to try and divert "bad publicity", for the red light camera companies. Yeah, let's make it about Joseph, a concerned citizen. Nice try loser. Where's your statistics? Blah, blah blah. Seriously how many times do you see people blatantly going through red lights? Hardly ever, once in a while. If those that don't beleive this about revenue and not safety, that's fine, good for you. Sheeples.

I guess I'll take your word on it. Are you saying it isn't dangerous when someone makes a right in front of someone? It happens all the time at Chambers Bridge by the 7-11. The people make the right while the drivers have the green arrow from 70. Is that not dangerous? Law says to stop on red before turning right.

Sound like administration? Why because I challenged you on your statement?

If the town is making money on it that's great, we could use it! It is a revenue enhancer if you don't want to pay it obey the law! Don't try justifying that it's a hardly a danger. If you obey the law, you pay $0. I Got caught once, rolling making a right hand turn, won't catch me again.

Not saying some driving situations aren't dangerous. I'm just saying they are doing it for $$$, the red light camera company, in Arizona, is raking it in. Yup, soaking us dry, with the blessing of our elected leaders. That's all. They can be stopped, and then pull right out in front of you. How is a camera gonna save you?

The town disbands the police department's SET team due to budget short falls. But now we pay officers to sit and review video and photo evidence of traffic violations? I guess there isn't enough revenue generated in actual crime fighting. EUREKA! Why doesn't the town take the money from this program and use it to reinstate the SET team that can rid our streets of real criminals.

Red, why hide behind a make up name? Is that because you have something to hide? Your comments sound like the Mayor's so I'll just call you Mayor.

I assure you I'm not the Mayor or any political person. All I did was ask you how you know that the majority of tickets are for rolling through red lights. But I'll just take your word on it.

Clamdigger, you sound like the Mayor. Between you and Red, how about not hiding behind fictitious names? Many people who comment here think you are the Mayor anyway.
As far as the tickets generated by these cameras, it won't be a surprise to anyone that the number of tickets generated because drivers actually went through a red light will be very small. The facts will come out when the state finishes their study.

Kill the messenger, kill the message. Right Joe? Why answer a question and back up your statements when you can just say "You must be the Mayor." Anyone who disagrees with you must be the Mayor.

My issue was that you said that the majority of tickets come from rolling through red lights. I am not defending the cameras or the Mayor and Council. I just asked you to back your statement with any sort of proof. Any proof to back up your claim. You can't do it.

As for the cameras, I'm not agains them because like other people have said, I don't go through red lights. If you want to break the law and go through or if you want to roll through a red light then fine, go through. There is apparently a sign warning people. No pity.

(ps. I go by Red...forgive me if I don't post my last name on the Internet)

Mayor, get a life.

Joseph Lamb, YOU need to get a lfe! What is with you calling everyone the Mayor? How ridiculous. Just stop the arguing & calling names & stick to the topic. &&& NO...I'm not related to Red or Clamdigger. I'm just someone who wants to read intelligent comments about a specific topic without wading through so much anger! ENOUGH!!!!

You are all missing the point about the cameras. So far, in Florida, almost every camera driven ticket that has been contested has been dismissed. The cameras ticket the owner of the vehicle, assuming that the owner is the driver. This will eventually be found to be unconstitutional. You cannot punish someone for an offense that did not commit. I am a retired police officer who was in charge of traffic enforcement. We had considered cameras, but after I researched it throughout the country, we decided against it because there was no way to identify the actual driver of the vehicle. Until technology improves, cameras will remain strictly a revenue producing item.

For the record, I was unfortunate enough to receive a camera enforced ticket from another state. They allow you to contest the ticket if you were not the driver. The ticket went to the driver, not the car.

To Jag:
That's correct. But you, as an innocent person still had to contest it to be found not guilty. That's where the unconstitutionality comes in.

I can agree with that statement. The photo enforcement should only be useful if it can include pictures of the vehicle and the driver.

Agreed!

If Brick made $500,000 at these 2 red light cams,why not put them on every light. Think of all the cash we could make. Of coarse, driving in Brick would be a nightmare. Oh, I forgot it's already a nightmare! Over $ 673,000 was collected, that means almost 8 thousand tickets to cars not drivers were issued. How can this be constitutional ? I've noticed over the last few days they were working on the light at Brick Blvd.Why? Was it not working properly?
The town seems to forget, that if they collect $ 85 for a ticket, thats $ 85 less to spend at a local store. An increase of taxes does the same thing , less money to go the local merchants! Thieves!!!

Clamdigger, I got a ticket from Ez Pass for $25 last year .I had an Ezpass box in my car. I've heard of the nightmares of trying to correct an error with Ezpass . So I just paid the stupid ticket because my time is worth something! This is what "they" count on!

And those flashes while waiting for the light to change at night are annoying.

Kim is correct. It is yet another tax, and it's unconstitutional. And anyone with critical thinking abilities can come to the conclusion that it's not in the best interest of the community in that it takes those dollars away that would normally be spent IN the community and not fattening a corporations bottom line in Arizona.

Clamdigger, your points about responsibility are well taken. The point that you are forgetting is that an innocent person still has to go to court to prove his/her innocence. This is why the whole system is wrong. As for your reference to the owner being responsible for insurance, if a vehicle is uninsured and is being driven by someone other than the owner, the person driving is issued the ticket if stopped by a police officer. Another point: Most police officers that I know agree that this is wrong. The exceptions are the politically connected officers who agree that law enforcement should be a revenue raising function. I ran into this kind of attitude when I was in charge of the Traffic Bureau in my department. I was more concerned with traffic safety than raising money that politicians could waste on ridiculous projects. Research shows that cameras do nothing to improve traffic safety.

Hi Clamdigger
I agree with all of your points. The trooper should have stopped that woman and issued a ticket. Under enforcement is worse than over enforcement. The cell phone law appears to be the most violated and under enforced traffic law in NJ. It is probably one of the most dangerous violations, as it appears that most of the people on cell phones are paying little attention to other drivers on the road.

Kim E, hate to break the news to you however if you paid the 25.00 EXPass ticket you made a BIG mistake. I have an EZPass, have for years. I have, like a fool forgotten to reload my account and have gotten quite a few fines in the mail (prob in the arena of about 20 plus or so over the years). Before they had the online I would simply call in, speak to someone and as long as my account was replenished I ONLY paid the toll amount. Now with the online service all you have to do is log into your account online, access the violation and it automatically charges you ONLY the toll, not the 25.00 administration fee. You can have them take it right out of your EZPass account. I know a few people this has happened to and again simply rectified by following the instructions online. As long as you have an active account no issues, even did it with my mothers car. I was driving her car, went through EZPass out of habit, she got the ticket, I called in, told them what happened and guess what? They took only the toll out of my account and added my mothers car to our pass for the future. Really quite easy. All you people need to just calm down. The cameras are there, slow down so you don't run (or roll) through the light and you wont get a ticket. Just like rectifying an EZPass issue, its easy.

Hey Joe Red brought up a good point I would like the stats and figures that you have or are u unable to come up with them just another idiot on here talking out of their u know what. Typical politician too when u can't answer the question u divert attention or pass the buck, now answer red's question or shut the hell up
Brian Ulman Brick resident tax payer and decorated marine vet I don't hide and I am not the mayor or part of the administration
Now put up the stats or shut up joe lamb

Merry Christmas to you too.

If you weren't able to follow what has been said, I can't help you. Read what's been posted. If you don't like it, you sure won't like the solar panel and other situations.

Alot of you people are ignorant. Whoever said they slam their brakes on when the see a yellow light is an idiot,you shouldn't be on the road. Sometimes it is safer to go through a yellow espically when it is raining out or if you are near the light. Everything isn't black and white it depends on the situation. I believe that the red light cameras are a scam. I have driven 120,000 miles over the last 4 years using my own vehicles between delivering auto parts and personal driving. I have seen almost everything on the roads, most of my driving being in monmouth and ocean counties. I got a red light camera ticket at the intersection of Chambersbridge rd. and Route 70. I was suprised when i recieved the ticket in the mail because it was anything i could remember, like blatantly going through a red light a several seconds after it had changed. I would venture to guess that the yellow light time at that intersection is shorter than at most intersections. The people that say "well someone has to take responsibility for it the car didn't drive itself", need to shut up. They are the kind of people who talk in cliches, but they're BS doesn't hold up. Just wait until it happens to you, then all of a sudden "oh, that light is shorter", "it is a scam". I have never gotten a ticket for going through a red light anywhere else. I have been through hundreds of thousands of intersections and seen thousands of cops, of course, alot have been the same cops multiple times.

(Continued) People should be given tickets for tailgating and going into the opposing lane around someone when they are turning off, just hit your brakes, if you weren't tailgating you wouldn't have to do that. The town of brick made $500,000 in 1 year, net. That's a ridiculous amount of 85$ ticket considering they only make $30 of that. That's about 16,000 tickets, lets say 8,000 each camera 70 and brick blvd. Sounds suspicious!

My friend just showed me a ticket she got in the mail for making a right on amber onto Chambers Bridge Rd from Rt 70. Has anyone else gotten ticketed for making a right on a yellow light? I can't tell how long the light was yellow.

"American Traffic Solutions, Inc. Is owned by the Goldman Sachs investment bank."

"One more way by which private businesses use government to make private profits by fleecing the public."

hey Pezarras, way to defen taking $17,000 a MONTH out of the pockets of Brick Taxpayers , who pay your salary, and sending to a private company of vampire squid

how do you people allow this guy to walk around you, i would run him out of town. he is taking you all for the sheep you are