This might be the most absurd comment ever written so far on the Patch...time to pack a bag and check yourself in...haha

While I do not agree with how the Council handled this situation, all of this talk about PPB going to the point of no return makes me chuckle,like when Dyer threatened at a council meeting that the BW was going to pick up and move to Manchester,,haha....PPB will always exist regardless of what residents or businesses are here.. The residents will pay more to live here and the businesses will do the same so all of this talk of Asbury Park etc...is ridiculous......We are lucky to live in a wonderful town and everyone knows it so stop with the doom and gloom and how the town is going to cease to exist..........people truly want PPB to stay PPB and not become Seaside,and people are willing to fight and pay more taxes to not allow that to happen,,we will not become Seaside because the residents will not let that happen,regardless of what needs to be done...

cathy kelly so you pretty much you want tow to go bankrupt.. this is the worse thing the town could ever do.. People are going to lose jobs, and so many others are going to lose the houses and money because of this.. This hurts the town and most people in it.. Apparently you need to be checked into a mental facility if you think this is good for the town.. This is extortion and everyone on the council should be thrown in jail.. Barrella is not ooking out for the town, he is looking to screw over good people cause he doesn't like them. Your going after people who put more money into our community then anyone.. What will our town do with out the POINT PLEASANT BOARDWALK.. cause i guarantee you if the Storinos leave point pleasant cause of this.. there will be no boardwalk for families to even go to.. but people like you probably want that.. This will become seaside, your just being ignorant.. and guess what if ppb is such a great place why are we trying to change what has worked for so long...

Cathy Kelly -- you are so wrong it's unbelievable. Speak for yourself -- you are NOT the spokesperson for all the residents. I am a full-time resident with kids at antrim and in the high school, and I am NOT willing to pay ANY more taxes. This town ain't so wonderful anymore and it's got all to do with people like you and your mayor and council buddies. My wife and I can't wait to sell our house and get heck out of here.

007 -- you're killing me with curiosity.
47, kids in Antrim and HS, hate the town, wants to move.
Text or e-mail me....so I can figure out who you are.:0)

Why bring them back? You probably love Reid. The guy doesn't get it. He basically wants the bars to do as they please, make as much money at anyone's expense.
When someone gets shot or stabbed this summer, maybe he'll wake up. Hopefully you will too!

These 4 "nutjobs" did the right thing, thankfully. And wait until the next election, there will be one, maybe 2 more to join them...at least one seat will go to an independent with Reid winning the conrarian vote. There will be no need for the mayor to break any ties, There won't be any. Then watch the patchwhiners scream.

This is absurd! Being an employee i will be out of a job along with thousands , its a resort area not a retirement area . Jenkinsons pays for a lot of the towns needs , that two hour difference has a major impact . Jenkinsons pays for things out of their own choice , this town will soon
turn to asbury .

Fisrt Off Cathy Kelly, You need to stop spreading straight out lies. Dyer never ever said or threatened at any meeting that the BW was going to pick up and move to Manchester. So dont spread lies you about someone you can't back up.. Go get the min from the meetings.. And If our town didnt need money and wanted to stay the same why is our council specifically the 4 who passed this law, trying to put up parking meter's on the blocks of residence.. There completely making this town worse.. And MIKE seriously people shooting people now.. No one comes to Jenks or Tiki Bar with guns. COME ON MAN..

Also, I live here to and I speak with more people and know more people then you do.. And NO ONE, wants to pay more taxes.. thats absurd to say that people want to pay more money to live here..

Cathy Kelly Stop Talking about other people and trying to attack them personally.. I'm not talking about what you were in highschool or what you are now.. It was definitely not said.. AND I KNOW IT WASNT.. so obviously you want to continue to BOLD FACE LIE.. obviously people can see you were obviously not liked in high school and I hope that people that see what your writing can understand what kind of serious whack job you are. You obviously just sit at home looking at every post trying to put your 2 cents in.. Your a joke..

YES MAM, FIND IT.. and you are right.. and go check made ever Varsity team when i was a sophomore.. but thanks for bringing up great memories of highschool for me.. and the only nerve you hit was bringing up my family when it is not needed.. My father is no longer on the Council so in return should not be a focus of you. And you should not be bringing him up. Especially when there lies that are coming out of your mouth.. Please please find it, ill wait.. and i guarentee ill be waiting forever for it

After reviewing all of these posts I feel Nick you must be a DRAMA queen! Your stating many things to be false and untrue. The nut jobs are the four you are so eager to return to council.

Please do Cathy cause that says nothing and means nothing.. Cause he disagreed with Barella.. That shows nothing and proves no point that your trying to make... And just like someone else said on here, he has 16 houses up for sale on one block.. People are leaving..

Nick, I hope you are kidding with this statement. That is just a ridiculous statement after what these prior councilmen did and got away with. If any of these councilmen would ever run again they would be laughed at.

Ryan M,,,Bankrupt really??? haha..ok where to begin,,I have stated that I am not happy with the way the council handled this,,but jail again haha Is the Boardwalk going to go away because they stop serving alcohol for two hours,again I don't agree with it but now I am just screwing with you...So 2 hours of not serving alcohol is going to shut down the BW,make all the families go away,and make PPB go bankrupt? Is that what you are saying?

007, I do not speak for ALL residents and never proclaimed that I did,I speak to alot of residents,through email,phone conversations etc....so I know many people feel the way I do. You stated "This town ain't so wonderful anymore and it's got all to do with people like you and your mayor and council buddies. My wife and I can't wait to sell our house and get heck out of here. Can you please elaborate on how I and people like me made this town worse? I am sincere when I ask you this...

Agree abolutely... if they were attempting to truly pass the ordinances for the towns well being, money (pay off) would not be an option

ryan,wow you must have been in the "popular crowd" haha Dyer absolutely made that statement at a council meeting,I was there,,I don't need to check the minutes,I heard it with my own ears but you can check the minutes,I am sure its in there somewhere,i don't remember which meeting it was but it was definately said.....now stop twisting my words and go put your varsity letter on hahaha

Ryan,did I strike a nerve perhaps? Did you not make varsity,haha......The only way that you can say that "YOU KNOW IT WASN't" is if you are Dyer yourself and if thats the case,are you SURE that you want to stick to that story because I WILL find it,either in the minutes or one of the articles from last year,,,your choice....and you are calling me a whack job hahahaha

ryan, statements from just one article: Regarding the impact of higher fees on local businesses, Dyer said that high taxes and fees have driven businesses out of the state and some companies are even leaving the country because of high taxes.

“Are you hinting that the amusement games are going to relocate to Manchester or Lakewood?” Barrella asked him. “Because I don’t think they’re going anywhere.”

“That’s where we disagree, Mayor,” Dyer replied.

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full article: Point Pleasant Beach Dunks Proposal to Make $12,000 More From Boardwalk Games

Now i will find where he actually said they will move to Manchester...

Ryan,first let me state that had I known that I was not talking to a
"grown up" I would not even have engaged in the conversation with you. Second point is you are Jeff Dyers son(which explains so many of your comments) third point is your father is not a focus point for me,I simply stated A FACT of what your father said at a council meeting,,,,fourth point is if you are saying that these statements:::::“Are you hinting that the amusement games are going to relocate to Manchester or Lakewood?” Barrella asked him. “Because I don’t think they’re going anywhere.”
“That’s where we disagree, Mayor,” Dyer replied.
mean nothing than you are not giving people enough credit......Fifth point is, I heard him say it with my own ears and only because you are young,am I willing to do the work and find it for you.....

BINGO!!

ryan Michael, They are leaving because of all the politicians and businesses. What the town has become. All the lies and fraud that has been going on.

Less tickets mean, less court revenue, which means cuts in services, layoffs and higher taxes. Get ready!

Exactly...big tax spike on the way.

but they already budgeted and paid for them and project revenue based on past revenue...

I would venture a guess here that most towns in America that have a population over 50K...their Police write a good amount of tickets between 12am and 3am...that's DWI time. Probably just more in resort towns like Point, Seaside, Belmar, Asbury, etc.

I agree and I also hope that they file an appeal and at least push it back a few months to prove that

Not really, the town has the power to regulate alcohol sales as they see fit

Nice try....

the 3.2 million comes in between the time of 8:00 AM - 11:00pm
Nice try...

We won't need as many police...less salary, less pension, less health care costs. Don't just tell me the revenue...tell me the bottom line profit the town takes in.

The PEOPLE voted them in to do a job and they are doing it.....

But wait a minute Peg -- You had a campaign sign on your lawn supporting the election of these nutjobs. You told me I should vote for them too. NOW -- you're disgusted? Sorry Peg -- you're 6 months too late and $800,000 short.

1st of all -- Who is 007?

Yes I did, because I believed the promises I heard at the Mayorial Debate. The promise that the Mayor and new council members would work with the business's in town to come up with a mutual agreed upon solution to the problems. I do believe I have a right to change my mind based on the actions that have now taken place.

Be fare, identify yourself?

Mainly for a political show. The prior council did not listen much either. They all just did what they wanted. That is what all politicians do.

So i'm assuming that Jenks and Tiki opened after you moved there? I don't get people like you, you know where you are moving and then want to change it. Next time move to LBI

I already have a house there...
And yes, I also go to Jenks and Martells.

Part Timer -- You're delusional. Turn up your hearing aid if you wanna hear the waves crashing on the shore. Ain't nothing gonna change. Actually your quality of life is about to get a whole heck of alot worse!

What's stopping you from doing that everyday? Irrelevant comment to the story at hand.

What time will you be sitting on your porch, with a cocktail, listening to the waves crash...not until after midnight!! Your comment just proves that the town is doing this with the intention of driving business away all together and making it a "bedroom community".

Part Timer I say enjoy your Vodka and the sound of the waves!

DON'T THINK SOOOOOO....

ALL my neighbors are selling their homes! I think I have 14 - 16 FOR SALE on my block!

Large entertainment center for all to enjoy, not just the midnight crowd....

So to you it is all about the money and not the quality of life? but earlier you were calling it extortion...

Move to a geriatric section of Florida, it'll be more your speed. Or don't stay up past your 9pm bedtime and you won't have to worry about anything going on with the bars. Sounds like someone is bored and just wants to have their little voice heard lol Good luck with your big tax spike. Might not be able to afford the "vodka in hand" next year lol you should change your name to "old and blind as a bat"

...would hurt the owners more. Not the town.

SL, with that comment, it sounds like you belong back at Jenks

I hope they don't open the beach to anyone and truly kill the town

Better Living ... they still have revenue from seaside and many other investments ... this would put the mayor in his place and they wouldn't feel it

I can't believe some of the ridiculous statements. They will never close down, they would lose millions. Sell maybe. I don't care how much they own or where they own. They are not stupid. It is about money and they are not going to lose money to spite someone else.

...unless it is considered a donation with stipulations? Not sure either.

At this point arrogant dumb politicans who played to the squeeky wheel to get elected have actually made it easier for DCA to void both parking and bar closings as illegal attempt to make BW pay, instead of the quality of life measures some wanted to pretend they were

I'll bet but in all fairness I should know who I'm betting haha...The town has the right to set the time for alcohol being served,period.... Like I said,I don't agree with how the Council handled this whole situation BUT I do have to give a little credit for not accepting the status quo and trying to do something about it......now with that being said,I do not have alot of money but I will gladly pay more in taxes to not turn into Seaside.....yes the BW was there and yes I love this town,but anyone that is trying to say that it has not been transforming from a family town to a party town in the last few years is either sticking to their agenda or not living where it affects them,either way,the facts are the facts and I (living here for 10 years)visiting for 10 years before that do not want to become Seaside

CK---the problem you perceive is all caused by politicians cutting cops and you know it. And you really should read the Commissioner’s letter. He makes it pretty clear that if you close the bars early because you want the bars to pay for the extra police that you can't do that, so I'll take your bet. And like you I'm happy to pay extra taxes to live in PPB---we just don't have to because of tourist revenue

Tooker doesn't understand too much. I almost felt bad for how stupid she sounded tonight. If it isn't about the trees or cats, she doesn't care.

Maybe the whiners in district 4 should pay for the lawyers. After all, it's THEIR "quality of life," not ours.

Just like the prior council did with the Prayer suit. If you made all these council members and lawyers pay back for all their arrogant, bad decisions and errors on balancing the budget. We would not have budget problems to begin with.

Mr.CommonSense, What are you trying to say with this statement? "Those Lakewood people" Wow, Point Beach residents.

I WILL TAKE IT...

You would huh. So the whole place could look like the Sea Coast Oil building or the old pumping station by Jager. The town still hasn't gotten around to cleaning up the area where Yogurt Plus was knocked down at the inlet. There are wooden saw horses there to keep people from driving off the edge of the parking lot. That was what, 3 years ago.

Yes, it does move the problem up two hours. Do we really want to flood this town with specials to solve someone else's problems? At least its two hours more a night that PPB will have a little bit more peace of mind...
When we see a flood of police force in PPB, we have now reached a place of no return....Seaside Heights

BL---you are joking, right? PPB had more specials with fewer problems and without becoming Seaside for 60 years before misguided politicians, trying to cut taxes to get elected, cut cops.

Emb- you say for 60 years? Well, we've been lucky! Our luck is running out!
You say fewer arrests??
Take a look at the police blotter...and the amount of arrests etc after 12:00am within the last few years.
C'mon...

Better living, what "peace of mind" are you talking about? You should be sleeping by that time lol Go to sleep people and let everyone have their fun. Stop "searching" for absurd things to complain about. If you want "peace and quiet" move to the middle of Montana.

BL-----it was not luck, and it is not running out. Try and understand, the so-called status quo is something that grew up over many years because it works!!!

And try and pay attention, I did not say anything about arrests, a statistic manipulated for political purposes----I'm talking problems, and everyone, even your buddy Cathy Kelly recognize that we had less problems until the cops were cut three or four years ago when Barrella and his group came to power

In this economy who has that kind of money? Why would you want to run a family owned business out of this community who has improved the quality of the boardwalk. You may not remember the Rip Tide and what was going on back then, but my Mom would never let me go on the boardwalk after 9 pm. This vote was not about my quality of life. It was about money and the mayor's ego.

No they won't, I'm a business owner and I would never. I know my collegues wouldn't either. That place is a black hole unless you're looking to sell salted pretzels haha

beachmom46, There is a lot of money out there. Maybe you don't have any. There is a lot of filthy rich people in the world that keep on getting richer. You must have heard the statement. The rich get richer and poor keep on getting poorer.

It's worse than that, they will get in their cars and taxis and go to other towns for the last 2 hours of drinking then get back in their cars and taxis to come back to their rentals after the other bars close. This way you get to deal with the noise and drunks twice instead of just once at 2am.

...I would rather have it in their houses, than them roaming the streets.
Unfortunately, what you described, sounds like irresponsible people who don't know their limits .
Irresponsible people + alcohol = major problem

kf- that's our responsibility? How about the person who is drinking? When do they take on the responsibility of having too much? Many of them are loaded by the time they get into the bars. So it's ok to just keep feeding them alcohol until 2:00am?..but it's our fault cause we are chasing them out at 12:00am?
Please...

Better Living - I never said that the drunks were responsible. I'm just telling you what is going to happen. I live in Manasquan and see it every weekend in the summer with the drunks from the Parker house in Sea Girt. I did not say it was your fault either. You can't legislate responsibility/stupidity, the drunks will still be their whether you like it or not. The police will have to actually work harder because of the midnight bar closing rush and then again when the drunks com back to their rentals.
On top of that, if I owned one of those bars I would look in to having it's value reassessed with the loss of 2 hours of revenue and try to get my tax bill lowered.

One question: Does anyone here NOT like Ocean City?

Better Living, I don't like Ocean City. I'd much rather visit a place like PPB or Wildwood or LBI, a place where I can find some family entertainment, like rides and games, and still be able to go out to dinner and have a glass of wine. The law says that I'm legal to have a drink when I turned 21. I don't need hypocritical elected officials telling me that I can't be trusted to drink. And, I mean....HYPOCRITICAL! But, I guess they feel that they're the only people who can drink responsibly...yeah, right.

@ Better Living...If you love Ocean City so much, pack your bags and make the move. Guess what, PPB will never turn into Ocean City. Dream all you want. I want $100mil dollars!

Mike, PPB is a residential town that is and has always been in the tourism business. You ask what does it cost the town. Good question. But, like any other business, here's how you calculate it. You take the gross that you make (for PPB municipal government that gross is the money we collect from parking revenue and court revenue/fines) then you subtract your expenses (like the cost of "extra" police) and you come up with your net profits. Tourism brings...2 or 3 million dollars into the town. Extra police...cost less than that. So, we're making a net profit of at least one million maybe two million dollars per year. I don't know many businesses in today's economy that would walk away from that. As for property values going up, well, if your property value goes up, so do your taxes. And, you only make money on an increase in your property value if you sell your home. If your goal was to sell and move out anyway, then I guess you're really not all that interested in living in PPB either way.

Oh joy - property values. That plan will deplete the town of millions of tourism dollars, kids of summer jobs, police officers of work, and you still will have to deal with that crowd because the beaches are still here. By the way, we are the Jersey Shore - not those people with the blowouts and from out-of-state.

You are ALWAYS ALWAYS going to have the Jersey Shore Crowd whether you like it or not. There is NOTHING you can do about it but complain. Yes, I get where you are coming from but its the truth. It is NOT going to go away by closing the bars 2 hours early and if I'm wrong, I'll say I'm wrong but this new law will be tested this summer and we'll actually see if it does anything. PPB isn't going to turn into the Outer Banks.

Lucy-you're on here...lol

Yet you're here. How do you explain that?

I never said i was an integral part of the town, retards.

is it entirely impossible that someone either works a midnight shift job, or does not work a regular monday-friday work week? ..... You're the one sounding like the troll there, Lucy...

Don't judge the entire town on the actions of that Mayor and Council of District 4. There is a lot more to the town that the politicians only care about during an election cycle or when the tax bills come out. The sad thing is the entire town is going to be ruined by the squeaky wheels getting greased by their elected neighbors.

Thank you Thundercrack! I agree with all of the above! I know many families who have STOPPED coming to PPB and now no longer frequent PPB every weekend, nor do they rent homes because of the change that has happened in this town. Quite sad actually! I pray we start to see more families in our town!

I didn't realize the town of PPB was in the business of employing people.
They shouldnt be driving if they are drinking.
Please...go somewhere else.
Sounds to me you drink and drive...careful on your way down to seaside. Bay Head cops are a tough!

Better Living, all Governing Body members receive a salary, small though it may be.

This response is a pretty clear example of why the ordinance was passed.
All of the bar supporters should read this one. This is what you are defending.

Colonel Mustard, it's interesting that you would bring up those comments by Corbally. Isn't that the same meeting where Corbally mentioned how he had asked his daughter to describe the late night service at the BW bars? So, I guess Corbally's own daughter likes to visit the BW bars late at night, much as Corbally once did before he got on the wagon. Not that I blame her. Those BW bars are a great place to visit, and as long as you drink responsibly and behave responsibly, no one should fault you for it.

I just think its a little ridiculous that at no point during this has any of the councilpersons uttered a single word about the out of control police salaries in PPB. How many specials could you hire for a mere 10% of the 2+ million those 18 high paid officers make? Pay cuts anyone? Oh no, can't have that! Must tax local businesses instead? As far as Corbally's comments I just think it was absolutely ridiculous to characterize the events as he did. This isn't LA or NYC...it's Point Beach for cryin out light! I hope they lose their shirts to the Storino legal machine!

Hey Colonel Mustard, don't call the police when you need help. When your life is in danger or you're in the middle of a heart attack. Forget the number 911 and take care of yourself. Don't rely on the "shirts" to save your life. They recieved the proper training and completed all the required courses and academies both physically and mentally to get where they are. Some of them are military veterans and people who do what they do to help the residents when they need it. Stop worrying about other people's salaries and worry about your own. That's the towns job. They have law binding contracts that they agree to at a table with lawyers and members of the state that you have no control over. Complain all you want, but I promise, those salaries will never change. They are set in stone. Every officer in every town makes close to $100k a year. That doesn't make them the enemy. They deserve every penny and I'll pay more if I have to.

C'mon Scott. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! Don't worry about police salaries? That's not my job? It's public information pal, and I never knocked the job that police officers do, I considered it as a career option myself (why wouldn't I, look at how much they make!) But don't sit there and tell me that they "deserve" how much they make. NJ has the highest paid cops in the country! The average salary for a patrol officer is around 50k/year according to salary.com. I'm sure a lot of the officers in Point that have the higher salaries are not in patrol, but it's often argued that you are paying for their "years of service, experience, and dedication" If that's the case they should take all of these qualities and formulate a plan to deal with the issues with the RESOURCES THEY HAVE instead of devising half-baked ideas named after breakfast cereals! As for not calling 911...pretty sure the police don't drive the ambulances, or drive me to the hospital...ya they are usually first on scene but Point has an excellent VOLUNTEER EMS squad that handles that. You are obviously on the government payroll to make comments like that. I'm with Christie...the party is over!

@ Colonel Mustard...you're absolutely right. The party is over....for Christie!! lol Don't get me started with our screwed up government trying to cover their tracks. It all started with Governor Whitman taking millions upon millions of dollars from the police, fire and teachers penisons and benefits fund to pay for the states expenses while never paying it back. Most of the state population doesn't even know this. Why would our governement expose their screw up?? Guess what Christie is doing....taking even MORE from police, fire and teachers pensions to pay for Whitman's theft. The police are not overpaid nor are they the "bad guys". They got hit by the government not once, but twice in the pocket to even out this states debt. If anything, they are twice a victim. I'm done with this conversation, you can't win. Christie is definitely out when election time comes around and at the end of the day, I bet the ordinance for these bar establishments get rescinded anyway due to legal battles. So you lose twice. Don't get your hopes up too high there...pal.

@Scott....I hope the ordinance fails, and it probably will! As far as your views on Chris Christie and re-election...his approval rating just hit an all time high. Just sayin...

I never pay attention to any other day other than the vote count after election day. There's NO WAY he'll get re-elected. If anything, he'll drop out to work his way higher. Maybe in D.C. He's not going to stick around anyway.

If you don't mind my asking, since you're very "into" the bar scene at 24 years old, which bars do you go to? And, what time do you usually leave those bars? It seems pretty odd to me that a person of your young age would consider Storino as making a monopoly here. Can you explain what you mean by that? Do you realize that there are actually two different Storino families that own the businesses on the boardwalk? (two brothers)

I actually go to Jenks quite often, as well as Farrells and Frankies. And I usually leave around 1 am. I think that Storino is making a monopoly because he controls a major amount of the business in town. So much so that if you are young and live in this town looking for work you can't help but work at Jenkinsons. I get that some of you might be saying, "Oh thats good they are providing jobs for teenagers". But what a lot of people don't realize is that they pay less than minimum wage. A reason I refuse to work there.

Ptbeachres, I'm really confused now. You say that if you were a parent, you wouldn't want to take your family here because the town gets trashy and unsafe at night. So, then why are you out at Jenks, Farrell's and Frankies until 1 am? If you think the bar crowd after midnight is such a problem, again, why are you out there until 1 am? Hey, I don't mean to sound like your mom or dad, but this just doesn't make any sense to me. As for the minimum wage thing, I know that when I was a waiter working at Houlihans in college, we got paid less than minimum wage. The idea was that you made it up in tips. So, maybe it depended on the type of job you were looking for at Jenks?

Hey, you should've known the consequences and situations that come with the area you moved to. That's like me moving to Asbury Park and then complaining about gang activity and shootings in the area. Well no crap. It's common sense. Either move or put your kids to bed at 10pm and they won't see anything. Problem solved. I'm here all day.

I am resident too and I agree with you!

PPB is and always was a family resort. The most destructive force affecting this reputation is the exaggeration perpetrated by Barrella Gordon Tooker and Corbally, and people like this Rudd lady, who believe this exaggeration. And they are doing this because of their personal animosity toward the BW. Watch the news-------We should all be ashamed.

Ptb- Well said...and there are jobs up at the BW where the teenagers receive below min. wage, and aren't waiters or waitresses... They are classified as being able to make tips. The kids that carry umbrellas on the beach. $5/ hr plus tips. One teenager said she never received a tip all year.

Don't blame Jenkinsons. It's a seasonal job, and according to the State of NJ you aren't entitled to minimum wage.

Don't get me wrong, Jenks pays like crap and makes money hand over fist, but they are just doing what they do because it's allowed. It's a smart business decision.

Those 8 cops are "special officers" and their "assigned detail" is to stand there for police presence. The regular officers are in the patrol cars driving around the streets and the problems that occur near the residences is usually after bar closing when everyone is either walking home or to their cars. Go back to sleep and let them do their jobs. Find something relevant to complain about.

Is this the same police presence that requires 8 specials to guard Joey Tomatoes at 2:30 on Saturday afternoon? Don't punish PPB business owners because of a poorly allocated police resources!

Nah, I'll stay in Belmar. Much more fun here. And you can dance with our mayor on stage with the other patrons of the bar at DJais lol Belmar is a real town. I used to live in PPB. I have friends and family there now. My uncle is also a police officer there so I understand both parties arguing the story at hand but honestly, the only thing coming out of this is money out of residents pockets for the big tax spike next year. You throw a stone in water, it makes ripples and you'll feel the effects, not right away, but around this time next year. Seaside sucks anyway!

As much as I disagree with the decision I have to say "Move along, go quickly. There are ten people ready to take your place."

Vanessa ... you do realize the town gets 3.2 million dollars a summer ... a summer in taxable revenue a year from Jenkinson's? Not to mention the 5000 jobs the boardwalk provides to people in the area ... As a former employee and friend of the family ... I hope the Storino's knock down the boardwalk and sell the land to real estate developers ... they'd get close to, if not over a billion dollars from the sale of the land ... the town would get hit hard since there is nothing left to do in that town besides go to the boardwalk .... and they won't have to deal with the stuff that they had to for years from the politics of that town

Hi BeachMOM -- no no no. You misunderstood my comment.
I was summarizing what "007" posted to try and figure out who he was, since he knows me but I don't know him because of his alias.
He said he was 47 yrs old, he had children in Antrim and the HS, he hated the town and he wanted to move. I NEVER SAID 47 Students hate the school.

I am sure more than 47 students hate the schools.

Wait.... how do I comment now that I want the 800K but before I was calling it extortion...
So to you it is all about the money and not the quality of life? but earlier you were calling it extortion...

All true

Great news!

Wait.... how do I comment now that I want the 800K but before I was calling it extortion...
So to you it is all about the money and not the quality of life? but earlier you were calling it extortion...

PT--aren't you the guy who made up nonsense about LBI then tried to blame it on a nonexistent cousin when you got caught? Yes, legislation mandating payments is illegal, bar closings won't work, so my position is and has been, work with the BW, accept donations for specials---perfectly legal, residents and businesses win, but politicians lose so ain't going to happen

Gordon doesn't even know where the men's room is in borough hall. He's just a Barrella, Loder, Diaz follower.

and you live???
I will send the drunks over to your house to pee....

The mayor and council of District 4 along with the people that they represent don't really care about the workers. They are all part of the "I got mine, you go away" crowd. Almost a 1% verses everyone else kind of thing on a much smaller scale, of course.

These ordinances do not seem to just overlap; they appear to be stacked on top of one another so that they simply smother each other in terms of an issue that is of equal importance to EVERY resident of this town, revenue. The Governing Body has asked the Boardwalk Owners to come up with a more detailed plan on their donations. It’s equally, if not more important for the Governing Body to let the residents know that they understand these numbers, because we do not, and that is why they were elected.

If you have no idea what the legal cost would be then don't post an idea of $250,000.
YOUR COMMENTS HAVE NO BACKING OF PROOF AND ARE JUST TRYING TO PUT A SPIN ON THIS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WHO YOU ARE BACKING.

Anyone like to weigh in on what a couple of hefty legal battles cost? I thought I was being conservative. Part imer, this is a real issue. Revenue matters and when you cannot tax for it, you have to shut things down and fire people. I will not apologize to you for viewing the big picture and thinking of the future of this town.

Answer this, if they drop the pay to stay ordinance then it is legal to sut the bars @ 12:00 (not legal fees)
Parking plan is legal on all town roads (no lega fees)
Property tax is not lost because they close earlier (town still gets 1 Million ?)
People get laid off, ( I did not realize when i bought my house that i was also paying the salary of the bar workers) Look aroud you, everyone is losing there jobs, Businesses are going under.

I will repond to each line item and not issue a vaque attack on you personally as you did to me:
- If negotiations fail, the BW will have no chioice but to fight the early bar closings, and the town will have to defend itself.
- The Parking Plan is already in court
- I never said anything about a reduction in BW tax dollars. But this will not go up either.
- I did not say anything about the boardwalk jobs. Taxes pay municipal workers: cops, public works, administrators, etc. These are the jobs that will be lost.

PT---it really is a shame you keep speaking on things you clearly don't understand. The parking lawsuit has been filed and is not going away anytime soon. The bar closing ordinance is going to be challenged because, as the Commissioner of the DCA wrote "The conjunctive nature of 2012-15 and 2012-16 suggests that the Borough is looking to use its power to regulate closing times as a means to increase . . .fees." In other words, you are using your power to close the bars improperly. You are right, they could have just closed the bars, but they did not. Instead they made a money grab. Now when they try to close the bars it looks like the money grab it always was. Horse is out of the barn. Can't now pretend you can’t keep them open, when you were willing to leave them open, if only you had enough money. As much as you want to charge the bars because you don’t like their customers and think they cost you money, it can’t be done. And the small cost of extra cops doesn’t justify the early close. Town going to spend big bucks on losing lawsuits.

Mr. Schneider, thank you for your well-articulated and presented post. My concerns are the same as yours....if we lose all of this revenue, where is it going to come from next year. I know that, on another article, someone named Blindbert complained about not being able to enjoy the south breeze after midnight, and I offered to change places with him if that was his biggest problem. Here's mine: money!!! I think it's wonderful that Ms. Kelly and some others will gladly pay more taxes to have their streets quiet, and I think it's great that they have that type of money that they CAN afford to pay more taxes. Not me. I'm barely making ends meet. My wife and I were in a much better financial situation when we bought our home, and it's NOT that easy to sell. Has anyone noticed the number of homes for sale in PPB and what the asking prices are? It's a buyer's market folks. People are behaving as if we have murders and stabbings, when all we have is loud, disruptive and uncivilized behavior. The tickets bring in money for the town and punish those who behave badly. As for the legal costs, I would look at what the Borough Attorney charged the town for fighting the Recall to give you a good starting point. It's the same guy, after all.

Then I must say, I feel for you... you might be the only person I have ever heard say something like that...

Nick,stop twisting my words please to enhance your agenda...I said if it is a choice of turning into Seaside or paying more taxes,I would pay more taxes....what would you do? just let it turn,,,than you would really see how far your property value would drop...

PT---and what's the name of the bar on the causeway cousin told you Ship Bottom put out of bussiness. There is none! Ever been to Joe Pops Shore Bar?

Or move! If you can't deal with it, get out!

I wish there was a "like" button

Asbury is better than sleeze side.... residents from Asbury don't even want to go there.

aww,you hurt my feelings hahaha..please keep posting,you are just oozing with intelligence haha

All I can say is wacky lee korbel is 100% correct on everything in this post

Despite the fact this is written terribly (does it really on the internet anymore) WLK is absolutely correct!

These stats are definitely inflated! DPW took a serious hit to their budget and they were forced to take Furlough days as a result, but don't touch the police budget! Because if you do the town will be overrun with drunken urinating fools!

I hope all the renters throw epic house parties. That'd be HILARIOUS
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Quarter Deck not closed by Ship Bottom---Quarterdeck sold for top dollar and turned to a companion banquet facility to big wedding facility built in Bay---had nothing to do with Quarterdeck crowd or town reaction---as I noted to part timer when he tried this nonsense earlier. So what do you make of the County and the State reactions to your boy Barrella's harebrained ideas?

shouldn't you be in school by now,you already missed first period,you should get moving

Looks like most of the whinners in the press were on some type of commitee or board Barella appointed one time or another Now they want Loder to join the follie. Korbelly and Barella lied about the parking plan.Barella says he didnt see the EMail.I guess no one talk about it to him. Its all Bill Mayer fault,no not really but how many times is Barella going to blame him.

Shouldnt you be cleaning your house, maybe some laundry,maybe get your hair done,shopping ,how about taking a nap being your on the computer ALL day and night.You must be in separate rooms or your other half wears night googles or earplugs while you bang away at the computer ALL night and day. Again Im agreeing with you,the place has gone downhill since you moved here

Looks like the Klan has weighed in on the subject.
A new low here on the Patch.

I tend to agree with everything Stephen Schneider said. Plus I know that our 18 paid cops have more training but come on folks, they are at the top of the pay scale in the state and we are a dead town 9 months of the year. As to their training and fitness, there are a few that top the weight scales over 300lbs, they could not pass any physical fitness test given today! If you are going to be paid the big bucks, you should at least be able to run 1 block without having a heart attack!!! If they did more than just ride around town we would have more revenue already! Speed limits in town are a joke and that alone could produce year round revenue. Closing the bars early will cost more police dollars because our $10.00 an hour specials will not be able to issue all the dui's at 2:30 when people return home from the bars in other towns, only our 100k plus boys could do that!

WoW! This is one angry woman. Sounds like she needs my services.

Mr. Moylesworth, I agree with your perceptions about certain residents no longer being willing to tolerate the summer living conditions that exist near their homes. As for the previous Recall attempt, I think it's unfortunate that the Recall lawsuit took up so much time, allowing people to forget why the recall was started in the first place: the parking plan initiative and the meetings held at the Antrim school and the hiring of the 25th cop, which Barrella opposed unless he got his paid parking plan. As Ms. Born wrote, why do they let the public speak if they're not going to listen to them, anyway? That's exactly what the public saw, in Barrella, back in 2008, right after he got elected the first time. But, Barrella managed to successfully drag out that recall lawsuit, so that by the time it was time to vote on it, he only had one year left in office anyway, and he'd managed to change the public's perception of him. Well, now Barrella is back...the same arrogant guy that he was in 2008, with many of the same ideas that he had in 2008. And, with all that the town went through with the first recall, I highly doubt that anyone will ever consider doing a recall of a politician again. Without his Council voting bloc, he'd have no power, other than what nastiness comes out of his mouth. People need to stop voting in Barrella's candidates if they want an end to all of this madness.

been here,as i stated over and over,I did not agree with the ordinances..I am curious myself to see how the parking turns out. I have done some research on it and apparrently there are towns that restrict parking on county roads(monmouth beach,seaside park,eatontown) to name a few...I want to see how the county justifies that for some towns but not PPB...Again,I do not agree with it,but I do not agree with the double standard either......

Ms. Kelly, you do realize that Monmouth Beach and Eatontown are not located within Ocean County, right? They're in Monmouth County. PPB is in Ocean County. There's another article posted on this issue that appeared yesterday. I think that you will find that the County Administrator, Carl Block, is reviewing Seaside's procedures to make sure that they coordinate with the County's PPB decision, so the County is trying to ensure that there isn't a double standard with regard to the parking situation. Now, what are your thoughts about the DCA letter regarding the bar closings? Do you think that the "stay open late if you pay a fee" ordinance is legal after reading that DCA letter?

It could be that nobody ever challenged one of these tickets past the local court. Cops will write whatever they want and local "judges" (fundraisers would be a better job title) will go along with anything the cops say if they want to keep their jobs.

Great idea!!! I have a boat in town, 5 bucks a ride,8 ppl per trip, time across 2 mins, gas about a buck a trip, great new business!!!

CK---closing bars at 12:00 is legal, except when you blatantly say you can keep them open if you get more money---then what you have done is try to get businesses to pay for cops and then DCA and ABC are not going to let you get money or close bars early---you wait and see---your boy Barrella and his followers really screwed this up

And on the parking the difference is the other plans allow all to park, but charge residents less or allow them to park for free that is different than what PPB is trying to do, which is prohibit some taxpayers who pay to maintain the County road from parking at all during certain hours---not going to happen

Ms Kelly - why don't you ask you friend Mr. Corbally about what goes on in Monmouth Beach. I thought he is the Borough Administrator there?

Nick,I am not a lawyer but the ABC spokesperson said in one of the articles that"a town has the right to regulate what hours that alcohol could be served" Once again,I said that I didn't agree with how this situation was handled but you and others just seem to want to blame the council,the residents,the police and anyone else that disagrees with you...thats ok but you should at least have the facts...

Dont talk about ppl having the Facts Cathy Kelly, cause you write without knowing the Facts too..

Beachmom,ok I will ask Mr.Corbally,but wait aren't you the one that blatantly LIED about hearing Tooker on 101.5 and also BLATANTLY LIED about my 14 year old daughter not being offered a job,,,,ahhh yes you are so your coments mean as much to me as spooners do...haha you do get an A for effort though haha

@ Cathy Kelly....yeah, cause we should all listen to the "facts" on the "news". You should believe everything you see or read on the news everyone! lol Your source credibility just went down the crapper.

Scott,as I said before,I was at the meeting,I heard it myself,som my source is my own ears...I am just trying to find where it was written because Ryan said it never happened...

hey Scott...you better quit while you think you are ahead. You really don't want us to start listening PPB LEO resumes and get yourself embarrassed. Exactly how many of them served their country overseas in a war zone? I know.....do you?

PS - you've been owned.

Scott seriously, our cops are some of the highest paid in the state and more than a few are down right fat! What lives are really put in danger here, maybe the lives of the $10 an hour specials that are actually out there!

P.S. You can't have Special officers without regulars. Once a regular gets fired...all of the specials go too. Bet you didn't know that. I did.

@ A Resident...There isn't one LEO resume in PPB that will embarrass me...I'm pretty confident about that. And most of the cops in this state top out at close to $100k. Not just PPB. All over. I know several officers that make over $110K/yr. I'm talking about TOP PAY not starting salary which is between 28-33k.

Scott, stop. You are really embarrassing yourself. Full time LEO's can be fired. They can't be replaced by Specials for full time services. There can still (and will be) Special officers hired for seasonal work. Even the police acknowledge that...although quietly. You just can't hire Specials to replace full time ELO's.

Also, PPB starting pay is in the $40k range. Only guys at less than that are dispatchers.

Please go and tell the cops in Camden, Newark, Jersey City that they should be happy getting what they are paid in comparison to PPB. After all, they are doing the "same job" for about half what PPB LEO's make.

As a late night worker I am only praying that the Idle Hour and a few others in Boro will now keep their kitchens open later, without Frankie's late night kitchen I might starve to death! BTW I do live in district 4 all year long!

lol

There has been section 8 housing through some of the local hotels for decades...

Yes but Pat Sterino owns over 80 houses in beach and he keeps several empty in the winter, one phone call to the state and he could also devistate our school district, which, btw, is one of the reasons our homes cost 100k more than the same house in Boro!

Ray-really???....if that is the case we have real problems!
By time...the tail stops waging the dog

Yup, happy hour specials, live bands during the day. Got to make for the lost income.

I think you are correct about the final outcome but I would like to see some muscles being flexed just for the sheer entertainment value alone. Call me selfish.

We should have a town wide piss fest!

Don't get caught by the Police. I think the fines have increased.

They will all be shut down. I am almost sure there is ordinances no noise in a residential zone after 10.

Shut down is right! Party in your home all you want(within reason) or I'll call the cops, even if I was invited. Need to get my rest from a nice quiet stroll on the BW with PART TIMER...see you on the BW say 1:00am should be quiet then....

I don't know about the keg parties all night but Better Living sounds way too optimistic. You should never cry "victory" too early. These ordinances are far fetched and will most likely be rescinded.

Spooner I believe thats for all the police not just Specials. And the Special (some) cost is for year round ,whole town . I bet the Special cop (only) at 10 to12 bucks an hour cost for the BW is less what their willing to give,remember if they write 2 tickets they pay for their shift so their not costing us anything. But your forgetting the TOWN owns the boardwalk so they have no choice but to protect it both day and night when there tons of tourists around. Dikun ( Mr 70gs OT) Barella ,and company played us taxpayers like a fiddle and we fell for it .The Barella bloc wants the BW to pay for any and all police services in that area and thats wrong. Cant wait for the big tax increase when the numbers show were 500.000 to 1.000.000 in the hole. So the PD who went along with Barella will be saying goodbye to a couple of there comrades next year.

Wacky- sounding like Mistine Mennessy

i'm with you..

Gate Watcher-not so fast-most of the posters here are clearly out of town BW supporters, so appealing to the electorate here is a waste of time. And a recall?
Not only is that a fantasy, wait until the next election when the ranks of the people you call "morons" increases. Lurie's spot will go to an independent, Reid will most likely get elected, so the "bloc" will increase. What you don't see or hear is that great silent majority-those people that have flooded the "morons" with positive comments,
emails and messages. These are the people that matter and the people that vote.
Get used to it son, this is what good government looks like. For the people.

Mr. Happy---I don't think so ---great silent majority indeed--Let’s look at the truth. There are 245 voters in District 4 who voted for the Parking Plan, 200 who voted against it. 277 District 4 voters voted for Barrella, 196 voted for Reid. So of those who voted somewhere between 45 and 77 more folks think there is a problem in District 4 than think there is not. But there were 580 registered voters in district 4. More than 100 registered voters in District 4 did not vote. Think they thought there was a problem? So if you count the 100 who did not vote and the 200 who voted for Reid and against the parking plan, 300 voters in District 4 understand there really was no problem in District 4, except for what the politicians created. That is more voters than think there is a problem.

Bet you won't(RECALL) win, tried before....silent majority will CRUSH you
Many more clam diggers here than you think....

So not making them leave earlier and letting them remain where they are and continuing to drink....and then drive after more drinking....is a better choice?

This is just crazy talk! The only one to blame is the drunks that choose to get in to their car after drinking no matter what time it is. Everyone should be responsible for themselves. Don't blame the town, the mayor, the bartenders, the owners. I don't care if you leave 4 in the afternoon. If you have been downing drinks all day you should not drive. IT IS NO ONE'S FAULT BUT THEIR OWN!

We already had a young girl hit a few years ago in the month of November. It was not that late. Obviously the driver was drinking all day. Who knows where? They conveniently never seem to know where the person was drinking when there is a problem. This young vibrant young lady almost died, the driver left her for dead. If it wasn't for a gentlemen who was walking his dog who witnessed the driver, his car and was able to call emergency promptly most likely she would not have survived. The paramedics came quickly which saved her life. Her quality of life will never even be close to the same. Again individuals get in their car all hours of the day drunk out of their minds...therefore it is no one but themselves and it has nothing to do with closing early at 12. Staying open until 2:00 will only make it worse, they get to drink for 2 extra hours and then get into their car speeding to where ever else they are heading.

Chris- ok it's the town's fault...lol
Please post when your not inebriated

nothing good happens after 12

Careful about guessing identities, Denise D flagged me for doing it.
Are you reading this Denise? Mailman is out of order.
But anyway, Mailman, why would anyone living in Cleveland call themselves Mr. Happy?

lol

Mr. Happy is the first one to line up for Mr Storino and Mr Bassinder's free beach passes and passes for his family...and others

It appears a lot of residents are willing to sell their town for a few beach passes from the Storino's and Bassinder's. The shrimp is not free in point pleasant beach.

How do I get one of those free beach passes?

@ SL, the town owns a 16' wide strip down the center of the boardwalk. It is the existing ROW. @ Mr. Happy, What am I, chopped liver??? lol I did only lose by 13 votes to Bret Gordon last year!

And Jenks empties the Town's garbage receptacles on a large portion of that 16' strip. At no cost to the Town.

....or at least they did up until July 1, 2012.

If the government body feels it is becoming a safety concern in our municipal streets for both the residents and tourists who come or stay for a visit. It is there business and can tell the businesses what to do.

whatdontyouget-----Yea---except in PPB you have corrupt politicians pushing their personal vendettas instead of real people with real concerns-----500 registered voters in District 4 did not think enough of the so called problems to vote---with the parking plan on the ballot

Don't leave garbage receptacles on the large portion of that 16' strip. It is garbage from their customers. Let them put the receptacles on their side.

Slice it, dice it, spin it as you like. You people are starting to sound like Karl Rove. More on him later. Fact is, you hate that there is a majority, possibly soon a super majority of council members that place the people first, BW second. Sorry, that's the way it is. You know it, I know it and November will confirm it. The good news is (for those of you who know who Karl Rove is), he would say, correctly, politics is cyclicale. Perhaps in the future, the council will be pro BW/anti resident as in the past. But,we live in the present, so we now have the opposite. We'll see what the future brings.

Mr. Happy, can you explain to me why PPB politicians feel that there has to be a war between the residents and the BW? It doesn't make any sense to me. I've never lived in any other town where the politicians talked so much about being "pro resident." I thought that since the politicians got to play with everyone's tax money, they owed a duty to all taxpayers...and taxpayers are all businesses and all residential property owners (whether they're full time homes or second homes).

YES! Thank you Holly Harris! I hope that PPB returns to the way it was when I bought my house! A very nice FAMILY TOWN! NOT what it has become today!

I'm pretty sure the Committee that was formed last year consisted of BW owners, residents, council and police. This isn't just a BW issue, it's a social issue. If the council and mayor where sincerely interested in coming up with a plan to solve some of the issues --- the committee would still be in place, and there could have been many things put in place besides what has now transpired. Have we really enforced good respectful behavior from the kids leaving bars late at night, or leaving a hosue party. Have we promoted the rules? Have we really enforced those breaking the rules with tickets and citations? I really believe things could improve if we implemented a grass roots effort outlining what behavior is expected and required when you are a guest in our lovely town. It's a shame it has come down to this.

Mrs Harris, tourism has always had it's downside. Congestion in traffic, dirty diapers carelessly left behind by visitors, and just some general nuisance factors. However, tourism also has been a major part of the economic structure of Point Beach since before we were born. What has been taking place on our council is having a major negative impact or image on our town which depends on tourism. We should have a no tolerance policy toward tourists night or day that cause problems. We are never going to be Spring Lake. Let's be careful we don't kill the goose that laid the golden egg. Unless you support our property taxes sky rocketing. Most of us can't afford that.

No - I am sorry Holly Harris IS correct! I moved to PPB 10 years ago and it wasn't until my fifth or sixth year in PPB that it started to become as locals say, "LIKE SEASIDE HEIGHTS" or many other names I cannot post on this feed! I think if you promote and market PPB as a FAMILY town the element WOULD CHANGE! And again I am sorry - enforcement will COST RESIDENTS money NOT THE BUSINESSES!

Mrs. Peacock---the element you seek cannot return--they are lost in the mists of time---they do not exist---except in your idealized memory---in today's world enforcement is the answer--and you are right, it will cost the residents---less than 10 dollars a household----and the only way to change that---as DCA made clear-----is by legislation in Trenton. The Council on New Jersey Avenue does not have the power to impose what are, in essence, Barrella's illegal local option taxes, no matter how much that may seem fair to you

Sorry, Mrs. Peacock, but having lived in different districts of PPB for 45+ years....there has been garbage in front yards, loud noise, and yes....people gettng sick......that entire time. It is much older than your 10 years.

Well folks, we've now heard it all. People that were not concerned with intruders urinating under their bedroom window. And thanking the Storinos. C'mon fake posters, you can do better than this!!

@DroppingLoads, not saying i don't or didn't care.. The cops were called, to do the job that were paid to do.. And as i said, i t's a 3 month ordeal.. And why not Thank STORINO..! he owns that boardwalk per say.. He's gone so is everything else.. You people need to get a life and stop bitching about it.. There are far more things to get all uptight about. People will be loosing there jobs.. Guess you don't care about that huh DROPPENLOADS..!!!!

Do you really believe they would close....Why dont you kiss his @$$

You know so little - they also own about 120 properties in PPB! Believe me they are NOT HURTING by closing 2 hours earlier! DUH on you!

Such an intelligent comment...

Scott, I just seen this post! You are kidding right. They would never close the boardwalk.... They make to much money. That is what is entire fight is about. It is about greed, money on all sides including the police.

Nick, I was at the meeting between residents and BW(Jenks) about a year ago. At that time,the BW had a list of special event costs from Chief Ohara that I think the cost was somewhere around $120,000 to $140,000.) and included about 15 specail events...so tell me Nick,how many applications were filled out since a year ago...What you and so many others are failing to see the point on is that most residents are NOT AGAINST the BW and actually want to see them work together but when you make comments like without the BW,the town will cease to exist,or everyone should be thanking the BW,all it does really is piss people off. The BW needs to take responsilbility as the council does. Again,I will say,The BW NEEDS the town and the town NEEDS the BW...All this talk of PPB going away because the last call of alcohol is 2 hours earlier is totally absurd...Do you really think that 2 hours of alcohol is what the town needs to stay afloat...Again,I will say that I do not agree with the ordinances but the people with their BW agendas that do not see both sides just creates more animosity and turns more residents against their agenda..... Again,why are their parking lots not open and why has NOT ONE application been filled out since our meeting....It goes BOTH WAYS....

Ms. Kelly, why are you responding to a post that I've addressed to Mrs. Harris? Are you also posting as "Holly Harris"? Or, is this some misplaced post? Are you responding to some other post that I've left? I don't understand how your response here responds to my questions to Mrs. Harris. But, since you've decided to weigh in, how do you feel that closing the bars early is going to solve Mrs. Harris's problems with finding dirty diapers on the street? As for what the town needs to stay afloat, we need tourism! We've always had tourism! And, right now, I think that we're sending a message loud and clear that we don't want tourism any more, and that message is being carried all over the State. You know, not that long ago, you were saddened over the amount of empty business spaces downtown. Have you noticed how many we have right now? How often do you personally shop downtown in stores other than the hardware store or grocery store? Those businesses are tourist-dependent because our full-time residents don't shop there. Our full-time residents go to Target or Walmart to get their stuff. And, what about Joe Leone's? I know lots of full-time residents love his stuff, but they can't afford to go there every week. He needs the tourists, too. You're a lucky woman to be able to afford to pay more taxes, but many families aren't so lucky, and everyone is kidding themselves if they think we are going to be able to make up this revenue "hit" through families.

More money???? Not sure if you are aware of this,but last years $95,000. special appropriations made is being paid by the taxpayer...the special police is being paid by the taxpayer,the personnell that is needed to accommodate these businesses is being paid by the taxpayer so please elaborate when you say,they just want "more money" also,2 months ago,everyone in town was screaming,writing letters,etc about the huge$238. tax increase,guess what,the taxpayers are paying for that.....now all of a sudden the same people complaining about the tax increases are the ones yelling extortion......

What happens to the value of all these liquor licenses? Is the town going to be responsible for the decrease?

You sure your numbers are correct or is just another SPIN..

Last time I checked ... taxes pay for services such as the police and ems .... jenks shouldn't be on the bill for police salaries that reach in excess of 100k ... in bigger cities such as jersey city, bayonne, newark ... the police salary is in the 40k range ... and i can tell you this ... they have much more of a chance of being harmed in the line of duty in those cities than with a couple rowdy drunks at the end of the night ...

nick,wow you are not even trying to hide your agenda,if you are,your not that good at it haha,tell me how joe leones,the little shops on arnold and bay are surviving by people drinking from after 12am to 2 am? How are the little shops that you know that I don't shop in haha(are you following me,if so,you should at least say hi) Tell me Nick how those shops are being affected....ps Joe Leones could be in the middle of the desert,with nothing else around them and they would still thrive because Joe Leones is the best anywhere,that is truly a gem in ppb(and by the way)they don't serve alcohol
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Nick, It's truly funny that you know that I have been at the hardware store,grocery store and Joe Leones numerous times so therefore you either have my debit card receipts or you are stalking me haha,,,it's all good either way,I am just hoping that there are one or two cops reading the patch that are taking note of this....you see,Nick,I don't scare easily and its ok with me that you know where I am and what I do,actually I have had a car parked with someone in it all day today in front of my house haha,am I paranoid,not at all,I have alot of faith in my Police Dept and would not hesitate for a second to call them...So Nick,being that there is no Nick Carraway paying taxes in PPB maybe you should let me know who you are just to make the playing field fair..What do you think???

One more thing Nick, I would never respond for Holly Harris, I have way to much respect for her to ever do that....It is residents like her,that have never caused problems that have no agenda,that have lived here forever that are just great decent human beings that are finally fed up,they are the residents that I speak for,because they ask me to ......the fact that she even has to comment speaks volumes....

Cathy, that $95k special appropriation was due to the previous Council cutting the PD budget.

It's a vicious cycle. The PD does their job well....less quality of life issues as the PD maintains a presence which halts a good number of those issues. PD budget cut so there are less PD (we don't need as many cuz there are so few issues). Less PD, less presence, more issues arise. Oops, now we need more PD but no where to get money to pay them. Next time around, more funding for cops. Leads to less issues due to presence...and the next council will follow the same steps.

SL, 5,000 jobs? Most quaint little towns such as Sea Girt, Bay Head have less taxes than us. I keep on hearing about how low the taxes are. The strange thing is everyone has been complaining about the constant increase of taxes. The last article with the expected increase of taxes all they did was complain on the posts. It was a record breaking comments on that article. How do you figure taxes going through the roof? If you have less coming to your town, you do not need as many police of services, it would all be wiped or evened out.

beenhere,I answered your questions,maybe you can answer mine,no spin just answers, ,why are their parking lots not open and why has NOT ONE application been filled out since our meeting that took place a year ago with Chief Ohara's costs?

CK---happy to answer. First, on the parking lots I do not know what you are talking about. Except for inlet lot I think they are all open-----my understanding of inlet is that Condos asked for it to not be open -----but I could be wrong, tell me what you know and I'll see what I can find out

On the applications, I'm not a lawyer but I understand the idea that if you have never enforced an ordinance---for whatever reason---you can't suddenly start---and my understanding, from listening to Mr. Mayer, who is a lawyer, is that the ordinance is too vague to be enforced---which is why Barrella, who loves to see litigation, has not backed Corbally on special event fee suits---no spin, just answers.

Now one for you: Why didn't this Governing Body know about the County and State objections and why didn't they share them with the public as soon as they knew?

beenhere,I will answer again because obviously from the numerous posts that I have stated that I do not agree with how the council handled this situation,that you still do not seem to understand,,,,again,it's funny how you post so much in support but you are not aware of the parking lots and you are not aware of any applications...You say if you never enforced an ordinance that you suddenly cannot start,,,are you kidding me,,,,,thats like saying that I have been talking on my cellphone while driving for 3 years and now a cop wants to give me a ticket,,I wonder how that defense would hold up in court....just another example of one agenda and blindness to facts.....

CK---I don't mean to be dense, but I don't see an answer---I understand you don't agree with they way the Council did this---I don't think anyone does-----I am trying to ask you for your opinion on why they hid the State and County objections or do you believe they just did not know until now?

The cell phone example is different--we know why if a cop doesn't see you the first 100 times you can still be ticketed on the 101st-----exactly how is it that the enforcing authority missed those fireworks? Those first 100 times when not ticket fireworks for no application makes it look like you did not mean to include fireworks---at least that's what I get from what the lawyers have been saying. What was that you were saying about being blinded by agenda? Pot calling kettle black, no?

Please answer the question---and I was serious tell me your understanding of the parking and I will really try and get an answer

Been here: don't agree with you when you say nobody understands( meaning town officials also) why they voted the way they did. Just read BW attorney letter...he stated that if Council went ahead with voting for extended closing (2012-16) they would go along with it. What is it that you don't seem to see in their eyes that they don't understand? The BW give them the go ahead to approve the ordinance and they would honor it . .Did you read their letter?

really????haha

And your the expert....

I don't have to try smoking to know it's bad for me.
I don't have to try drugs to know they are bad for me.
I don't have to jump off a tall building to know it will hurt.

Some things just shouldn't be tried.

Do you know to much drinking is bad for you too?

Because 20 cops making a presence in the streets of D4 would make a difference. Another 20 on the boardwalk itself will do nothing. Put them where the issues are...the streets of D4......that will do something.

Ya, I know....this makes too much sense.

Resident, I agree with you

Then move to Ocean Grove. Walk outside, look around....does friggin Point Beach look like Ocean Grove to you? NO! It NEVER will. Its NOT going to look like Ocean City or the Outer friggin Banks either. Where do you people come from? lol Living in a dream world.

Ocean Grove the most beautiful beach in NJ?? Who voted for that? sorry don't believe it. Nobody goes there. It's Crazy town.

Scott, You are sounding a little crazy yourself.

You can't blackball people-what is this, the deep south of the 60's?
They'll just go to Spano's (byob)----or over to the Squan Tavern.
Better food anyway.

um, black LIST?

They already own a bunch of residential properties on Ocean Ave.

Scott, You are the one who is going back and fourth. I think you forgot to take your meds.

Whatdontyouget----PPB has been a family resort with a 2 am bar closing for what, 100 years. There is no need to close bars early. One of the above posters noted that most of the registered voters living in District 4 did not come out and vote. They understood the so called problem is an exaggeration created by your politicians. As is the myth that PPB can't afford to pay the police necessary to keep the bars open. This whole thing is embarrassing for a town with taxes as low as PPB’s. Looks like a greedy money grab to lower taxes by people who have money and low taxes already.

People that are of drinking age are also family members. They are allowed to come with their families as well.

"Point Pleasant will survive" .... so will Point Pleasant Beach.

A resident...My Bad, Point Pleasant Beach will survive.. Just Want it to Stop... Yes, Bars were open... but the drinking was not this level. I am almost sure these clubs were added on to. Which is just more drama... Now I know why there is so many individuals that have drinking problems including the kids in the families that live here. One big happy families equal One big happy town attitude.

'Just Want it to Stop'...agree about "politics". . .not only politicians, but also with one of police officers...a known political activist? That's why in part I've commented on this matter. . .because one has to raise that point of contention about his involvement. . .Last year the 'patch' published what was given to them by PD regarding summons issued for the month of July. What the patch reported was different than what Gordon said Tuesday about 42% of summons being issued, between 12AM to 3AM...Asked for a more detailed list of all those arrests. . .but to know avail. . .so what's the Truth?

http://pointpleasant.patch.com/articles/monday-nights-26-arrests-on-point-beach-boardwalk-followed-busy-weekend-of-83-arrests

http://starnewsgroup.com/weekly/2010/06.18.10/lawsuit_seek_06.18.10_64012.html

Full Timer 1, I'm afraid most of the "newbies" like Cathy Kelly, and a few others, don't care about the history of the boardwalk, or Point Beach for that matter. Your history lesson is right on, unfortunately, the newbies actually reject the past of Pt Beach, and resent the born and bred residents opinions, or maybe even their existence. Note: CK wants the taxes to go higher. Then she and others like her can change the Beach and they can make it like wherever they came from. I'm really sick of hearing "Pt Beach taxes are the lowest around"! That's great! That's why many like to live here. Low taxes, good schools, near the ocean. That equates to great town. Let's keep it that way too, if the newbies, keep up with their attitude we will have much higher taxes and be just like Brick, Pt Boro, Wall, and others. Why do these dumb bells want higher taxes? They will get their wish if Barella has is way. Worst Mayor in history of the town.

I am sure that that particular crew is no longer welcome in any of our towns drinking establishments! I am a frequent customer of Frankie's, I usually arrive between 11:30pm and 12:30pm, usually aparty of 3 or more, we eat, we drink, we go home. Usually spend over $100. When we go we are never the only ones there, several times we do not have a spot for all of us to sit. Do the math! This is going to hurt our smaller bars much more than it will hurt the boardwalk. I am a resident of district 4 and this is going to hurt my quality of life alot more than leaving it alone would have!

I would suggest to go home to eat or have a few drinks because some of these places might spit in your food if you disagree with them and their views.

Thank You for clearing that up...you can tell the differences in the writings....the imposter sounds like a two year old

Sorry about the confusion Full Timer (original). Not intentional. Have posted as Full Timer myself in the past and have lived here for decades myself. That's why I could authenticate or agree with your post regarding the history of Jenkinson's. Worked there myself as a teen many many years ago. As to Cathy Kelly accusation of "imposters" now that is the all time classic ofthe pot calling the kettle black. CK is running neck and neck in the voting with Barella as devisive person of the year in Point Beach.
Once again, Full Timer the original...sorry for the confusion. Was not intentional. Even though I think we are kind of on the same page philosophically.

Thanks for your reply Nick. Enjoy the summer, regardless of the outcome.

Farrells, 707, Frankies, The Ark, Vinnie's Comedy club will all survive just fine with the 12 closing. By the way, it's 709. Serving between 12-2 for these places is a very very small part of their annual work.

(From the Original Full Timer)
Quite an interesting post. Yes, I understand there was a serious $$ made in early 2011. No, I don't no the amount other than the fact that it was serious. Yes, it was from the Chinese (A business consortium, not the government). It was considered at the time but turned down. Finally, I am not a Jenkinson's employee nor am I related to the Storinos, whom I respect, although not always agreeing with their business decisions. The information I have comes for being in PPB for many years and simply knowing a lot of people who know a lot more than most of us. Just remember that there are only 3 months of Friday and Saturday nights in the summer season (about 26 days). Point Pleasant Beach has a lot of other serious issues and concerns that are no longer being addressed as a result of the borough's "fixation" over the bar closings. Be careful not to ignore them.

from my understanding,the letter was from Mr.Block(equivalent to our Ms.Reihl) There was a meeting with the engineer who gave it the go ahead,the Clerk was supposed to bring it to the county for a vote,the county said that it could not be voted on unless there was an actual ordinance to vote on the results of the vote would approve or disapprove it..That is my understanding...Everything in between,I am not aware of.....

Cathy Kelly----Nonsense--- you really believe the County Engineer told Corbally he was OK with the plan, after he told Corbally, in writing, he was not OK with the plan, and just before the Freeholders, who appoint the Engineer, through their Administrator and their lawyer, told Corbally they were not OK with the plan. Why would the County Engineer go out on a limb like that for Corbally?

But more to the point I did not ask for your opinion of whether County said no or not---I guess you could be trying to tell me you believe---my question was: Why did Barrella Corbally etc hide the State and County objections to their plans or do you believe they just did not know that the County and State would object until now?

The fact you pay attention to anything 101.5 says quickly shows you are not be taken seriously.

Police Director would have cost more money as in those other towns/cities...there is also a Police Chief. Directors don't have the same authority as a Chief so both are needed.

As for C. Kelly....she has stated more facts than you have.

A Resident ... actually ... the top tier of police salaries in a city like Bayonne, NJ (a place 3 times the geographical size and 25 times the full time residency) makes in the vicinity of 80k a year ... which is much more deserved than the 100k in a burg like point pleasant beach

I wonder why unionized public service workers hate 101.5. Must be how they expose where are tax dollars are being wasted? Showing your ignorance. How does a police director, who doesn't get a pension and benefits cost the town more??????Our last chief retired in his 40's, yes in his 40's, and will collect a 6 figure pension and benefit package for the rest of his life.That's millions. I believe it's our 5th chief currently collecting a pension. What don't you understand about that? Some big cities like Newark has both, a director and chief, but Woodbridge, for example (100,000 residents) has only a police director, no chief! Kinda shoots down your facts, oh wait you never have facts, your opinions. If you or C Kelly have any facts and you never do, lets hear them.

No, I don't work on computers all day at the school. I retired a few years ago. But go ahead, guess again. How do I know about the smaller bars? Maybe I go there at night. Sorry you have to work for a living....did that in my earlier years....it's nice having a solid 401k and not having to anymore. What two schools are you looking to merge....might be a good idea.

Beach Lifer, I don't know who you are, but apparently you know who I am. And that's fine. I don't know who A Resident is either. The person who works on computers all day at the Beach school is me. PS - I do a lot of other things there as well. I do check the Patch comments just about daily, they provide entertainment. It is very rare that I post anything. Last time I posted, another poster set off on a Google search to find out my life history. Please feel free to leave me out of your theories.

As for merging the schools, No I would not be in favor of merging PPB and Point Boro school systems.

Actually, any one can make the complaint. So, I'll remove the lawyer part.
And banning someone for attending a town council meeting where you may or may not differ philosophically isn't a legitimate reason to exclude patrons.
Too bad a reputable place like Frankie's is now going to be linked to the BW bars because of this incident.

'Happy move soon'...the recall defense was on the Mayor's "dime"... all the way to the Supreme Court. . .he was the Petitioner. . .not the town. . .although the town expended some money going over petitions and eventually filing paper work with Board of Elections. . .

Spooner---you need to stop---you completely misunderstood "Been here’s” post on how the GB mishandled negotiations with the BW---and you are wrong again here---town was sued by recall committee also, and rather than let Barrella slug it out with recall Committee Barrella had town hire his boy Gertner to defend town in recall ---it cost the town big bucks---go look it up

Just Want it to Stop: with all the jumping around between all the people posting. . .you'll have to be more specific as to which 'Been Here' post your referring to. Didn't know I commented on what he/you say: "GB mishandled negotiations with the BW" From what I've been reading from 'Been here' below...Why did Barrella Corbally etc hide the State and County objections to their plans...

Been here,i told you what my understanding was of the parking,you can call it nonsense if you want...As far as I know the clerk is the one that sent the original letter,the engineer in march said that the plan can haopen,,the clerk does not have the power to say yes or no.(obviously the engineer doesn't either)...I will say it once more,I did not agree with the ordinances..You asked me what I thought and I told you ,obviously that is not good enough for you.....Time will tell if the parking can happen or not. I said that I am curious to see how the whole issue works out myself....

Cathy Kelly---I understand, you buy Barrella nonsense that his 8 page letter to the County will save the day---ain’t gonna happen----Orinial letter not from clerk, from engineer--available on patch if I'm not mistaken---engineer never siad yes---but it's OK-------however, you still have not answered the question: Why didn’t Barrella and Corbally know about the objections of the State and County, and tell all of us, before the ordinances where passed, or did they not know until after the ordinances were passed?

Don't pay much attention to "Mr Happy" He or she is a wise guy young teen who has or enjoys playing the roll of someone with a very pompous attitude. Mr. Happy obviously didn't get enough attention from his parents as a very young child. Come to think of it, Happy would fit right on the Barella team.

You can also deny service and ask a person to leave a bar if they have hygiene issues or smell poorly. Given how full of crap they have been regarding the county and state communications, it is very likely that this defense would work too.

Not many people going out to dinner would want to have their food "prepared" by a chef that was angry at them.

Well sunshine, I wonder what the cook at Frankies did to the blue burger ordered at 5:40.

Mr. Happy, I think you're the one with the anti-semetic thoughts. Mr. Gertner lives in Lakewood, doesn't he? All Beach lifer suggested was that Barrella and his crew go home with Gertner to Lakewood, where Gertner lives, rather than stay here in PPB. If Gertner lived in Toms River, and Beach lifer had said "go over to Toms River with Gertner after the meetings," would you have accused him of being anti-semetic? But, if you're concerned about religious issues, check out Loder's handout. He has listed as one of his accomplishments the fact that he's a parishioner at St. Peter's Church. How does being a member of St. Peter's Church make him qualified to serve on Council?

So true,,, I will agree with you on your statement... I keep on hearing the same nonsense how Newark, NY and Philadelphia makes 42,000 a year... people just make figures up in thin air and people just believe them. It is crazy talk! I mean some officers have 18 to 20 years on the job, tons of experience. Some residents expect them to make the same salary as when they started. I am sure they want to continue making the same amount as when they started their job too. But as I stated on another post if our governor keeps on taking away from the local town's budgets to make his budget look so good. Soon the town's will no longer be able to afford the police. The town's will eventually have no choice but to dissolve the police departments and let the state of NJ to police the towns.

Whatdontyouget...The state mandates and gives grants and allots a certain amount of money to each town in the state which the town then uses for the payment of police along with taxes and other funds. You make it sound so easy. Police salaries will remain the same forever and if a police officer is laid off or fired, if you can defeat their PBA in a court battle, they go on what's called a "rice bill" where they are first in line to be re-hired if and when the town that hired them or any town for that matter, decides to hire another officer. Its a cycle but these are issues that get pushed around but never go away. You can complain, and I understand your complaints about police salaries, but there will always be police and increases in their salary to due their time in service and experience. A majority of officers in this state make close to or over $100k a year in every department.

You are 100% correct about that and I do apologize if anyone took me seriously. He just left himself wide open for that one.

Learn something......great post!!!!!!

Wow,you and melvin hurt my feelings....but I understand its ok..

Ms. Kelly, something to think about...maybe instead of constantly sharing your two cents, you should put them in a jar. With all of the money you'd save, you'd be able to afford the upcoming tax hike. Oh, I forgot. You're so wealthy that you don't need to save your money to afford the tax hike. Lucky you.

I bet you have had a whole string of experiences where leaving you this bitter when so many see you as more carnival sideshow than Harvard Professor

Mr. Happy, shame on us, I guess, for taking you at your word and believing that you were actually going to Frankie's for a bleu cheese burger, like you had posted. How sad for you, though. Those burgers are great, and maybe would've improved your disposition a little.

Thank you, Melvin. I do wish that it weren't true though. It's disappointing to see such a nice little town being run this way. There's just no reason for it, other than plain old ego.

I guess attempting to belittle someone in anger substitutes for an intelligent response. "Learnsomething, while I would normally correct your twisted spin..." I've read your posts and you really don't correct anyone, " in conversation with grownups", Belittling, "now have a nice night and don't forget to pick up your paycheck"....Sounds like you have no defense and sounds like Learn Something hit a nerve, cause maybe, He's right.

beenhere, ok I am attacking,now that is comical...I took my daughter to a movie and came back to find numerous posts about me by cowards that have to hide who they are...I answered your question the best I could. I was told that Mr.Blocks(clerk)who does not have authority from February was not a yes or no...I answered what I was told...Noone as of yet knows if it can or can't be enforced...Apparantly it is being investigated whether or not the county has the power to stop it here when it is allowed in other areas....I do not agree with it but I was not really involved with anything about the parking..As far as Barella and Corbally waiting,I never talked to Barella at all about it and Corbally I believe was waiting for an official vote...Unlike most here,I do not just make things up,I can only answer with the understanding that I have......I don't know what else you want from me on this subject.....
PS, I saw the movie Dictator,in case you wanted to know and it was hilarious......

Mike, I still have a coffee cup with your name and Mike Diccico's name on it. I voted for both of you. Mike was smart and moved out of PPB, but I can't figure out what happened with you or why you went over to Barella's camp. I hope your idea for a better town work out, but I have my doubts.

Full Timer, don't feel too bad. I'm still trying to figure out why a woman like Cathy Kelly, who claims to be pro-cop, would support Barrella over Dixon, a retired police officer. Or, for that matter support Tooker over Morongiello, a guy who was a firefighter at the 9/11 site.

LSED, Because they are boardwalk lovers and would give in to all the businesses and the heck with all the residents like it has been going on. They are both up they're a$$ and hang out at the boardwalk. I would too if I was Dixon. If they were helping me out like they do for him and his family.

JohnnyT---nonsense---show proof---these councilpeople aren't pro boardwalk---they are just anti Barrella---there is a big difference---lots of anti Barrella, pro resident folks in PPB---and with Barrela Gordon Tooker and Corbally's present antics our number grows everyday

Silly me. I got caught up in your error when I left the post above. Carl Block is not the County Clerk. Carl Block is the County Administrator.

learn,when you turn 18 and you can prove that to me, I will answer you,until then,please refrain from asking me anything,,,k thanks haha

learn,i cannot allow you to spread blatant lies, I have no problem with Mr. Morrengiello,I actually was hoping that he would run in this election,he would probably have my support,,As for Mr.Dixon, I have had many email exchanges with him awhile ago in which we disagreed but it was in what I perceived to be a civil discussion in which we agreed to disagree. It wasn't until I was being attacked by someone under an alias that turned out to be him....If I am wrong,I will apologize but I would like for Mr.Dixon to state on these comments that he has NEVER posted under an alias attacking me... I would like everything to be out in the open....I need him to say that never happened and if he does and what I have is wrong than I will publicly apologize.....That is when my opinion changed,,,It has nothing to do with Politics,and everything to do with character for me.....

Councilman Corbally, I'm doing this to make Ms. Kelly happy. She says that we should ask you questions directly. So, here you go: A February letter from the County Engineer has been posted in another Patch article. You never mentioned receiving this letter at any of the public meetings prior to the vote on the parking plan. Copies of this letter were also sent to Mayor Barrella and Borough Administrator, Chris Riehl. You were asked, repeatedly, during Council meetings about updates from the County. Why did you never mention that February letter during any of the public Council meetings? Don't be shy. Tell us here.

Councilman Corbally---two questions: 1) Why did you turn down the money we need for enforcement?
2) Did you and Barrella hide the State and County objections to your ordinances or did you not know that the County and State would object until now?

Sorry to hear you have no plans to move Mike. Hope you can afford to live here after the lawsuits set in.

I'll be the one to say it, but you won't have much support come the next election. Good luck and enjoy your term now.

Why are you so mad at Learn? Seems like he's a thorn in your side now that you have someone that appears a little more intelligent than you with the postings on this page. Don't get all bent out of shape and start calling everyone children and then laughing because you can't answer specific questions or don't like the valid points other people are making on here. Its pretty obvious when you pick on people and laugh because you don't have a response or their valid points bother you. Its a little tacky. Maybe you should be the one growing up.

Phil,I actually did go to everyone on the council,asking individually if they sent the letter, And being that you brought up Reid, I have a question for you. If Mr.Cortez received the most amount of votes after the people that one the election, Why was Mr.Cortez not the person that was Appointed to office instead of Reid? Why when Reid had less votes and it was obvious that the voters wanted Mr.Cortez,why is Reid up there now?

@ Cathy, just an FYI. You have another typo. My last name is spelled with a "s". Cortes. Thanks. I wouldn't want any confusion for this up coming election.

@Andy, I apologize..Good luck in the upcoming election

I am going to set the record straight right now, While everyone says that I am on the Barrella agenda, I will tell you how I feel.. He can be arrogant(I can be too) he sometimes talks too much,He says what he feels with no filter,,I have disagreed and argued with him on numerous issues throughout his time on Council.. He is not always right. With that being said,the man has always stood up and never backed away from what he believes in. He faced a recall (with millions of dollars) behind it, he PAID for it himself and never wavered regardless off how powerful people are… He has watched his family be dragged through the mud, he has stood up for the residents regardless of the consequences(to him and his family) His family has stood beside him(that in itself speaks volumes) He has never hid what he felt, he has never been bought and paid for, he is fighting for what he feels is right, and through it all, he was once again re-elected so it doesn’t matter if you like his personality, you don’t have to hang out with him but because you don’t agree with him, you feel it is ok to just attack him and the residents that re-elected him….All the money that was spent to get him out of office, yet he was re-elected. You can twist, turn it any way you want, he was Re-elected… The people posting on here would not have the integrity to do what he has done, so let’s just stick to ACTUAL FACTS instead of name calling, shall we..