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Votes by the township planning board to deny – as well as approve – an application by Roy Rogers to build a restaurant on Brick Boulevard both ended in ties Wednesday night.
That means while the restaurant chain's application was not technically denied, it was not approved either, and therefore it cannot be built.
Roy Rogers altered its original plan for the proposed site, at the northwest corner of Brick Boulevard and Molly Lane, to reduce the size of the restaurant to 2,000 square feet from 3,000 square feet, redesign its drive-through and add parking spaces and a bike rack.
Harvey York, the attorney for Roy Rogers, also said the company would agree to modify its drainage plan so, in the event of a 100 year storm, water flowed into existing drainage on Brick Boulevard rather than to an adjacent lot.
The company also asked the board to approve a small number of minor setback and lot coverage variances.
Residents of a nearby senior citizen development formally opposed the plan, and were being represented by attorney Ron Gasiorowski of Red Bank.
"I am advocating that you comply with your ordinances," Gasiorowski told board members, urging them to reject the application due to the variances required.
Some board members were not satisfied with the restaurant chain's plans, even after they were revised.
Board member Joseph Marra said he was unsatisfied with the overall plan for the lot, which would also include two retail stores.
"I'm not opposed to a Roy Rogers being there," he said, but a free-standing restaurant without the extra retail space would be better.
Board member Skott Burkland said the restaurant chain's argument that variances should be granted due to a hardship presented by the lot itself was not valid.
"In my opinion, this is a self-created hardship," he said. "I don't think this passes the test of good planning."
Board member James Coakley disagreed, however.
"I think that we were presented with a very challenging application in a challenging location in our town," he said. "I think they did take some good planning measures in this revised plan, and I was happy to see what they came back with because they came up with a very functioning development in a very challenging area of town."
Motions to deny and approve the agreement, taken in that order, both ended in 4-4 ties.
While the restaurant cannot be constructed since its application was not approved, a window for a new application by the chain may have been opened.
G. Wagner
7:46 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Trivia question: Name the location of the last Roy Rogers to be located in Brick.....
dorothyr
8:22 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
where ocean first bank is - corner of brick blvd. and chambersbridge - same side as bed, bath, and beyond
Lisa from Brick
7:58 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
I want a Sonic!! I think the old Friendly's location would be awesome!!
G. Wagner
1:58 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
Looks like there are several old time Brick residents here.....The corner of Brick Blvd and Chambersbridge is spot on!
Typical Obama Voter
7:54 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Intersection of Brick Blvd and Chambersbridge Rd . Building knocked down to widen the road.
Pogo
8:24 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Thanks for the information. I moved away and Roy was gone when I came back. I always wondered what happened since they didn't seem to lack customers.
ALM
8:32 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
On the Corner where Ocean First is now. Across from the Corner Post Diner. Was a Gino's before that.
G. Wagner
1:59 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
I din't know there was a Ginos there before the Roy Rogers. I am a newcomer then I guess... only lived here since 83
Next Brick Mayor
8:43 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
They should have tried to put a liquor store up. I know that Spirits is right there but I'm the council would have pushed to get that approved.
Paul Pallante
8:59 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Seniors, the bane of our township.
Sal Petoia
9:47 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
With an empty Denny's building right across the street, one would think somebody would have suggested using that property. However, rumor has it that the owner wanted rents to be raised so high as to make a business there cost-prohibitive. Hence, Denny's left.
J
10:43 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
I thought we were suppose to get a sonic way back when...
Daniel Nee
10:55 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
The Sonic was proposed for the same lot as the Roy Rogers, and was opposed by residents of the same neighborhood. As I mentioned yesterday when this came up, that issue predates Patch, but from what I recall concerns were raised about the site becoming a "hangout" of sorts, based on incidents that occurred at the Sonic in Waretown.
Sue
10:54 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
The older folks who live near there got the Sonic knocked down also. I am sick of seeing empty lots and stores. Tired of the seniors complaining about any business they don't like. I am a life long resident and around the corner from senior citizen and am sick of the seniors complaining about everything. They have always loved to vote down school referendums too.
CT
10:55 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
The seniors fought the Sonic that wanted to open in that location -- so why would anyone think they'd feel differently about a Roy Rogers?
CT
11:02 am on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Are there any plans for the site of the former Arby's / Krispy Kreme at the corner of Chambersbridge and RT 70 next to Best Buy?
Michael
12:34 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
When is the chick fil-A going to be built near Lowes/Raymour & Flanigan? And when are they ever going to start construction at the old Foodtown site on Route 70 and Brick Blvd? Why does this red tape take so long to get through and get started. What's the holdup?
John Pine
3:57 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
Don't you know, good fast food places aren't allowed in Brick!
HELP..
12:36 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Hey why not build Arby's,Dennys,Roy Rogers in the Foodtown lot.. A Giant Multi Plex food complex...And maybe another Liq. Store and Ice Cream place....I'm kidding we don,t need any more of the above...But they do need to put something in that eye sore empty lot..
J
12:37 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
I'd rather see a CFA get refused...
Anthony
1:30 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Put an Old Country Buffet there. Seniors would love it, and so would I.
KC
12:59 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
Ewwww. Those places make me think of severely obese gluttonous people. All you can eat. Ewwwww
Betty Dittman
11:29 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
How about a Golden Coral?
HELP..
2:36 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Wink,wink liq. Store ......dan...
Sue
3:06 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
I think a Cracker Barrel would be a great addition to Brick. Nice family place and the seniors would probably not fight that since it has the type of food and atmosphere they would like.
Kaity Kusner
3:06 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
I agree.
lola
8:36 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
LIKE!!
Cat
4:37 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
I would love a Roy Rogers here in Brick. Also a Sonic, an Arby's (sorry they closed), Cracker Barrel is nostalgic but nice, Oh by the way.......I'm a senior lol....Anytime something gets voted down "it's the senior's faut". No always people, only when it makes good sense. lol.............................
Cat
4:41 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
I meant to say "not" always
Comfortably Numb
4:53 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
WHITE CASTLE!
Arlene Lucante
9:25 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
We enjoy both White Castle and Roy Rogers... We ride all the way to Barnegat when we get a craving for Roy.........
Joan-o
8:15 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
The seniors in this town got their way with Sonic not being built. It seems every time any fast food chain tries to build on that spot, they start screaming like spoiled brats determined to get their way. Sonic should build on the vacant old Hess gas station site in front of the parking lot where Super Stop-N-Shop is located. As far as White Castle, CFA, CB or any food chain is concerned, it will take an act of GOD for the Brick Twp "boards" to get their act together and actually APPROVE something!!!!!
Mike D.
9:46 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012
Yet, they approved another restaurant for Brick Plaza where Kinko's used to be. Here comes Joe's Crab Shack. Are all those restaurants in one area necessary, yet they say no to Roy Rogers. Unbelievable.
KC
1:00 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
Roy Rogers rode off into the sunset with Dale Evans. That is where they should stay lol.
nan
11:21 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
The seniors in this town did not get their way. The seniors in the Pavillion got their way. I am a senior but live near exit 91 of the GSP and I spoke in favor of Sonic. Would prefer it where Arbys was or near exit 91 even better.
Mrgrumpass
8:19 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
If Roy Rogers or White Castle were selling wine they might just get a little extra help!
DT
9:47 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
What about a Hooters ???? Just Sayin :)
nan
11:23 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
I cannot but think abut the Mayor who pleaded guilty to extorting bribes. Does the practice continue with some boards?
Jim
3:55 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
Yes, it's more a question of what boards it doesn't happen on.
Jim
3:54 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
Brick planning board would never approve any plan that made sense. That's why the town is filled with empty buildings, bankrupt, and half their politicians are in jail.
John Pine
3:56 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
Well when Arbys closed I had no reason to go to Brick. And with no Roys either I still don't. Funny how they have no problem approving fancy developments and fancy restaurants but when it comes to good food at a decent price, not in Brick. So Brick is stuck with the big 3 garbage food places, BK, Wendys, and McDonald's (well Wendys used to be good till Dave Thomas passed away). I'll stick to the Roy Rogers in Pine Beach, and Arby's on Rt.9 in Toms River. The traffic on 549 is reason enough to avoid the area.