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Brick School Board OKs Full Day Kindergarten Plan

Kindergarten students will return to their local elementary schools; PLC will be repurposed

 

Starting in September, Brick Township kindergartners will go to school for a full day in their local elementary schools.

The Board of Education unanimously adopted a full day kindergarten program on Thursday night, paving the way for kindergarten students to attend their local elementary schools and for the Primary Learning Center to be "repurposed."

For many years, kindergarten students have attended a half-day program at the PLC, a kindergarten-only school built in a former shopping center on Chambers Bridge Road.

The board approved a plan devised by a Milltown, Middlesex County-based demographer, Ross Haber, that will transition students back to their local schools. The plan, Haber said, will allow students to be closer to home, allow kindergarten and first grade teachers to work together and require fewer school bus runs per day.

"Any plan that we make now which involves full day kindergarten, will last," said Haber, whose attendance projections determined that with a recent drop in student population, many unused classrooms in elementary schools could be used for the full-day program.

Haber's projections took into account potential shifts in population due to Superstorm Sandy, as well as potential increases in student population due to the full-day offerring, since many parents previously chose to send their children to private and parochial schools.

"A full day problem will, likely, bring a lot of these people back into the district," said Haber. "We did take that into account."

At most, Haber said, the district's student population could increase by about 630 students, though it will likely be less.

Board members agreed: it's time for a full-day program.

"Only 21 percent of school districts in New Jersey do not have full day kindergarten," said board member Larry Reid, who has pushed for full-day kindergarten since he was elected to the board.

"We've been looking at this for many months," said Reid. "When you have declining enrollment, you have empty classrooms. If we have empty classrooms, and we can fill them up with full-day kindergarten, that's a benefit for the students."

As for the Primary Learning Center building, there are many options on the table, said Board President Sharon Cantillo.

Two of those options include a fee-based preschool program to generate revenue for the district, or an academy school which would create a dedicated program for students interested in high-demand fields such as math, science or engineering.

In the mean time, the present special education students who attend classes at the PLC will remain there.

"We have many different uses for that building, all good for the students of this district," said Cantillo.

Superintendent Dr. Walter Uszenski is currently developing those options into potential plans, Cantillo said.

Kindergartners will ride to school each day on the bus with other elementary students, and Uszenski said the district will explore a "big brother and big sister" program so older students can look out for the younger ones. It's been a success in other districts, he said.

Plus, parents can expect their kindergartners to have a full day of learning with no nap time.

"Teachers can teach from bell to bell," he said.

Uszenski also said since future kindergarten students will have a leg up over previous classes, the first grade curriculum may be augmented to reflect their greater experience.

There was no cost estimate given for the program, since state aid figures for the coming school year have not yet been announced. But new teachers will be hired. Still, the cost of the plan could be offset by transportation savings as well as revenue generation from the PLC, officials said.

Kindergarten registration for the 2013-14 school year begins next week.

Related Topics: Primary Learning Center, brick nj news, and full day kindergarten

cam

6:00 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

This is so wonderful for the children! Great job by the BOE!

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dcnj

6:26 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

I could not be happier! Not only is it full day, but you have put them back in the elementary schools, right where they belong. Excellent job BOE! You are all doing a wonderful job of changing what is not working. Thank you for the new math and reading programs as well.

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B F

6:35 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Thank goodness! Now our kids will be able to meet the rigorous state standards for Kindergarten. And for those who will complain about the money spent, there is so much research that proves that every dollar spent on early childhood education gets paid back to society at greater gains than anyone is making in other investments. And the state is only a couple votes away from making mandatory anyway.

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dorothyr

7:29 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

while the PLC concept was cutting-edge for its time, like most things, the passage of time has caused major changes in our world and its needs. however, i always supported the idea of keeping the kidnergartners in their home school - the advantages of staying put were tremendous (in my mind) so i am glad to see them returning to their base --

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VBallsMommy

7:54 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Excited that I will not have to send my son to private kindergarden, and hopeful they will offer pre-school options at the PLC as well. Good work BOE !

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FD

8:21 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

I have mixed feelings about this, as a Parent of an upcoming kindergarten student, I guess full day is a good thing, although I'm not sure if a good case was made for it. As a taxpayer I ask myself how can they pass something without knowing the cost or potential savings (if any). When they mention state aid figures, they need to remember those numbers are not guaranteed, and any deviation in aid will fall onto the taxpayer to cover.

"There was no cost estimate given for the program, since state aid figures for the coming school year have not yet been announced. But new teachers will be hired. Still, the cost of the plan could be offset by transportation savings as well as revenue generation from the PLC, officials said."

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Concerned

4:55 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013

This is exactly what I am worried about. While full day will be beneficial academically , has it been completely thought out? Taxes and is there enough room in the elementary schools?

Boose

8:27 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

I'd love to see the PLC utilized as a special ed/ preschool building.

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mineeeemoh

9:37 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Hey, maybe all of the students who are deemed incorigible and sent out of district to the tune of over $20G's each, will be coralled into the PLC building. Mr A can be imported back from the Wall Twp private school that's been rumored to be in shambles. Then, additional friends and family will be hired as special ed instructors along with para professionals! Weeeee, what a ride!

Bricky

8:50 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Welcome to the 80's, Brick! Ridiculous it has taken this long.

Now on to the next challenge...IMPLEMENT SCHOOL UNIFORMS. Many other districts have done this. It saves parents money and eliminates a major distraction in the classroom. What will it take to get this done?

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Bobby Condurso

6:57 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013

Please...no school uniforms...children have to be allowed toshow some individuality and creativity. If I wanted my kids to wear a school uniform I would send them to parochial school. As far as full day K....Hip Hip Hooray!!!

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Bricky

10:28 am on Monday, February 25, 2013

Bobby..Have you seen the way kids dress these days? These kids girls can show their individuality (and everything else) on the weekend.

Watchdog

9:17 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

One of the better decisions made. Congratulations.

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Grammy 2

9:54 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

I attended the BOE meeting but did not make any comments as there were too many that prolonged the meeting. I am submitting mine to be read at your leisure; it was interesting to listen to the presentation accurately and effectively delivered be misinterpreted and the focus move toward a detail that had irrelevant impact on whether to have full day kindergarten or half day. My grandson will attend kindergarten in Brick but was not born in Brick, therefore is part of the statistic analysis of the presentation. When making a decision it is usually helpful to ascertain the problem, learning opportunities and addressing the apparent gap would seem to me to be the addressed with the full day kindergarten. The astute selection of the Math Essentials and Journey reading program there are requirements for kindergarten that require a full day program. The basis of the education experience is built upon blocks of learning from years ago that have been refined, embellished and created a craft for the education community to collaborate, nurture and innovate. Congratulations on your following a path beneficial to children.

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wookfish

10:33 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Another words Grammy..too much inbreeding in Bricktucky

ChiefWahoo

9:56 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

2 + 2 = 5

The earlier the children learn that Obama is their king , the better for all.

14 babysitters just hit the public lottery. And the sheep are happy that their child spends an extra 3 hours away from them while they shop and eat out.

We will have the smartest children in the world in 13 short years , too bad they will not be able to afford the property taxes in Bricktucky.

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Jennifer Luddy

11:15 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Um, not sure what planet you are living on, but the sheep are not out eating and shopping while their kids are at school. We're WORKING. And we are trying hard to provide for our families and pay our taxes. All of the families I know in Brick have two working parents. And if you think the taxes in Brick are high, maybe you should take a trip up the Parkway and get a load of the taxes paid in other counties. They are easily 3x's more than what we pay. We are lucky to live in such a nice town and not have to pay what our northern friends pay...This is a much needed change for our school system that will benefit everyone. I'm sure the PLC seemed like a good idea at the time. But it's not. At least it can be re-purposed and perhaps generate some revenue.

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Tarkus

11:21 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Good to have you back "Chief Wahoo".

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Bystander

6:21 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Don't worry, when the economy collapses no one will be in school and we won't be able to pay the teachers!

cam

10:05 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Familiarize yourself with the rigors of the kindergarten curriculum and you will no longer refer to teachers as babysitters. Perhaps when you were 5, you played with clay and colored in school....I can assure you those days are long gone.

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pam ulrich

10:12 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

A math and science school would be a great use of the building. The area is saturated with pre-schools already. We need to be able to compete with other districts and having a math and science special high school will help get the Brick schools out of the bottom third of the state were they rank now. Be innovative for a change!

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FD

10:28 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Who's paying? The same people who agree to write checks without the money to back it up are the same people who will be on the Brick Patch blasting the tax increase.

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FD

11:07 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

@Pam, one would think that the majority of the staff in place at the PLC will move along with the Kindergarten classes. Thus new teachers will need to be hired for a Math and Science school.

FD

10:36 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

The problem with schools today are they are too soft on students. I went into my Son's six grade class and they have snowmen hanging on the walls that the students made. Funny thing is that when I went into my 4 year old Son's preschool they had the same thing.

When I was younger (in the 70's) I went to catholic school in NYC for a few years. I recently looked at a picture of my 2nd grade class. There were 43 students in the class taught by a Nun that had to be in her late 60's. Today folks complain when the classroom get way to big, by big I mean close to 20 students....

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pam ulrich

10:54 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

@fd We already have the building and the staff. I have news for you, if the schools in this town don't improve, the value of are homes, which are already decreased due to Sandy, will continue to plummet. Let's try to be cutting edge in this town for once and place value on our kids, their future and the future of this town. Full day kindergarten is a step in the right direction! Don't compare today to the 70's!

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FD

11:20 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Hi Pam, one would think that the majority of the staff will follow the kindergarten classes to the other schools, thus a need to hire new teachers for a math and science school at the PLC. My analogy to the 70's was that there are things that can be done to accomplish your wish instead of just throwing money at it. For starters if you want a math and science school at the PLC let's talk about increases class size across the town by let's say 5 students, this will lower the classes per grade and free up teachers to fill in positions at your proposed math and science school.

As far as house value, I don't see high taxes helping that argument, I do see your argument that people will want to move here because of the school system, however Brick is developed there is no more land to build so that leaves the people already here eating tax increase after tax increase.

Just for the record I have 1 Kid in the school system another in preschool.

KC

11:06 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

I must be the only parent that is not happy about this. I don't mind half day kindergarten. I've had one of my kids attend half day and I have no issue with working on skills with him at home. And I have little ones that have yet to go into kindergarten. I like that the kindergarteners are seperated from the older kids. I know that kindergerten is not what is used to be and that the kids are expected to know more entering school and learn more while there. However, it seems to me that these decisions are being pushed by parents wanting free full day care for their kids sooner. I know that's not the case for everyone, but it just seems like the elephant in the room while parents pretend its about education. I guess for many of these kids, they've been in full time daycare for years, so there's no concern on the parent's part about full day kindergarten, and now that the public school is providing it, the parents don't have to foot the bill. Especially if they are renting. There's no worry about how this will eventually effect taxes. I'm sure this opinion will tick a lot of people off....

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me

12:59 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I agree KC 100%, but unfortunately their aren't many who feel the way we do.

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KMEW

1:21 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I agree. I am so upset with hearing about the full day kindergarten. I fear the hard transition on my son who will be attending Sept 2014. He will only be in preschool for 1 year. 3 days a week for 2.5 hours. He will go from that to full day. To fast for me. I am very upset.

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W M

4:03 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I agree 100% KC my son is going to have a very hard time with this long day he will get on the bus at 8:30 and not get home till 4:00 at 5 yrs old! My two older kids had half day kidergarten and it was enough, also they are both doing well in school so going half a day to kindergarten didn't make a difference. Sadly it's not in the best interest for the kids it's all about $

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Watchman

5:05 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Add me to the list of people who agree with you,but why weren't you at the meeting last night? It gets awful lonely at that lectern fighting 10 people who think everyone but me agrees with what they did.How much will this cost?.Don't know. Where is the money coming from? Don't know.What will you do with P.L.C.? Not sure.The man from Ross Haber didn't use birth rates to project student enrollment. After going down an average of 200 students for the last 9 years he thinks it's going to remain flat for the next 5. How do you trust his numbers?

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Alison

5:20 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Watchman: Mr. F....i imagine?
I don't know if we were at the same meeting but the replies you list are not what was said. You asked what will happen with the plc, and they didn't say "don't know" what they said was "two of several options on the table are the revenue generating preschool or a learning academy". I imagine they cannot decide on what to do with an empty building if the vote has not yet passed to empty it. Seems like wasted energy.

They also explained that they could not give you an exact dollar amount for cost because of several factors....1. the don't know how many teachers they may need. You have to factor in retirees, teachers moving classes, and most important ENROLLMENT! Mr. Haber gave "worst case" prediction of 630 for total K enrollment. This is if the children in district who currently go to private school come to public school. So if they tell you they are hiring 14 new teachers and only need 12, you will tell them they misspoke! I, for one, am keeping with my original plan and keeping my child enrolled in the private school we are already registered at. So there you go, your already at 629.

And as far as using birthrates...... I can tell you this, I live in brick and my children were not born in brick. Just because we live here doesn't mean this is where we go to the doctor. I go to a dr I trust, not a dr that's convenient. Therefore, birthrates are no more accurate then any other way to guess at enrollment.

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Lifelongbrickresident

7:51 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013

Im with you KC. My kids did half days at PLC--they are now in high school. They both have AP classes and I dont think the half day versus full day of kindergarten was a detriment to their education. Its not all about education. They are five years old. Not all kids are outgoing and being put in an elementary school with five groups of older children can be overwhelming for some kids--not all but some. I feel the busses will be the most problematic. They are already overcrowded. And exposing your children to the foul language on the busses with the older kids (and yes I do mean elementary school children) is not something I'd be quick to sign up for. My friend is a long time kindergarten teacher in another local district and tells me full time kindergarten for most of the children is just too long--they get too tired, have to concentrate for too many hours and they stop paying attention anyway after awhile. I hope you all enjoy the sacrifices your children will endure for the sake of free full time day care. That is part of what's wrong with this country. Parents don't want to parent anymore. It's the me generation..

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Boose

4:02 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

My daughter was bored with the half day kindergarten. 8:30-10:50 was a joke of a day. Most preschool days are longer than that. Granted for children who are at home with a non working parent or guardian, full day will be a bit of a shock though. I think this was a good call, however I wish the board planned out the details prior to the vote. Busses, classroom space etc is yet to be determined I hear...

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Watchman

4:55 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

Alison, learn to read. My comment about the PLC was not sure.The Laurelton school has been empty for how long? Birth rates are at their lowest rates in a 100 years nation wide.How do predict static enrollment with that.We paid $20,000 for what you saw last night.You think it was worth it?P.S. children have to be born to attend school

pam ulrich

11:19 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

@ fd I am sure they can take some from the both highschools and hire a handful more for the advanced classes they would be able to provide. I think it is a win-win for the town. Just think we need to take the Brick schools in a new direction and this idea seems very cutting edge and great for our educational system. Seems like the board and the new super are starting to think "outside of the box" which is refreshing.

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Susan

11:37 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

While I understand with most families having both parents working, this will help them out with child care costs, I am happy both my boys went to the PLC & it was only a half of a day. They're only kids for so long. OH and for the record, there is no law that the kids HAVE to go to Kindergarten.

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Bob

1:21 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

you will still need child care since most people work till 5 and they get out anywhere from 2-3pm

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B F

3:27 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

No but there is a law that says children have to go to school at age 6 which is the age most children turn in kindergarten. Besides the working parents issue, the demands placed in Kindergarten from a curriculum standards really are hard to meet in a half day program. I guarantee if you ask any of the kindergarten teachers they will be happy to have more time to meet all the state standards. Kindergarten is not as it was years ago. It is more like first grade sometimes even second. Even preschool isn't "babysitting". I am grateful my daughter will get the full day of education next year that many of our surrounding districts get. Studies show we should have at least a half day preschool.

lisa matfess

11:55 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

This makes me sad. My daughter was in the first class that went to the PLC and I thought it was wonderful to separate the kindergarten children and I'm still an advocate for half day kindergarten. After reading the article and following comments regarding the need to strengthen the curriculum for kindergarten and 1st grade, I feel sorry for the children. Children that young learn from playing. Anyone who knows me will vouch that I was a psycho parent pushing for only the best for my daughter. I can name some Osbornville teachers that would probably remember me after all these years. Everyone needs to remember that they are little children. I do not believe that they need to be in school all day. I think this is more of a convenience for parents then it is that the children need to be in class for 6 hours. For everyone who says it is needed for your child to be successful, my daughter did half day kindergarten and attended Osbornville and now she is in her third year at Johns Hopkins University and has been on the dean's list since her freshman year. She did not have a tv in her bedroom nor did she have an xbox or wii. She had involved parents.

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Bob

1:20 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

parents ARE about 80-90% of your childs education. If the parents don't care then the child won't either

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Reality

6:11 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Lisa - You don't mention that your daughter continued her education at Lake Riviera and Brick High School. Unfortunately too few of our students who attend Brick schools for ALL 13 years do as well as your daughter. Although you have fond memories of the PLC, I bet it was the fact that you were an involved parent that contributed the most to your daughter's success. Kudos to you!

Ed LeFurge

12:00 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Well done BOE! Very good decision that will benefit the students!

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me

12:58 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I don't agree with this at all. I think its wonderful that they go half day with children their own age. They are so young, I think it is too much on them to go all day. If parents would take more time at home to teach their children what they need to be learning and not rely on just the teachers, they will be just fine.

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Lara Stanwise

1:08 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I have 5 children. My first child we lived in a different town and she had full day kindergarten she seemed to learn alot more (she had minor learning disabilities) and she is an honor roll student today. My second child is a special needs child and we were in Brick at the time he went to kindergarten and he had a longer half day but he would of definitely benefited from a full day kindergarten because of his special needs. My other three children won't start kindergarten until 2014, 2016, 2017. I am excited for this because I believe that the children will definitely benefit from the longer day of learning.

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KMEW

1:11 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Everyone seems to be ok with this. I do like that the children will now be in their elementary schools, however I am not happy with the full day at all. My son will be going to Kindergarten in 2014 & I don't want him in full day. I was perfectly happy with him going 1/2 day. I do feel that the 1/2 day should have been at least 1 hour longer. It was too short of a day. But full day is a huge transition. The transition from a cpl hours of preschool 3 days a week (sometimes only 1 year before kindergarten) to 5 full days doesn't set easy with me. I also don't like the fact of him on the bus with older kids. Not happy at all!

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W M

4:09 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I agree my son is going to have a hard time with this getting on the bus at 8:30 till getting home at 4:00, for the parents that have to put their kids in day care all day it won't be a hard transition, but for the kids who get to be home it's going to be so hard for them, should have left it half day they go to school long enough to learn all they need. Not in the best interest of the kids all about greed!

Bob

1:17 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Though I am a fan of full day kindergarten its implimentation should wait till the reevaluetion of property taxes for next year. The district will be losing money, how much we don't know. How does the BOE rationalize no increase in taxes, loss of funding, and an increase of about a millon? Unless the state comes up big I don't see how this will work.

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FD

1:30 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Very good point, additionally if they are looking to fund some of this through state aide that would be a mistake. State aide is not consistent.. I strongly believe that state aide should be used for 1 off things, such as police cars / road improvement etc etc. The point being is that if you hire 25 (example) new teachers with state aide money over time will the state aide money cover their pay and benefits, not likely, then we will see a budget battle and signs on everyone's lawn saying vote yes for the kids. Then if said budget passes, people will be complaining about their high tax increase.

It's truly a vicious circle...

W M

2:50 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

WM
I do not agree with the outcome for full day Kindergarten, Not every family has two working parents, for the ones who work of course are happy about this, for the Mom's who stay home with their kids this is going to be a very long day for these 5 years old. I have two older children and half day kindergarten was enough and it did not effect their learing as they do very well in school. Your putting 5 year olds on the bus with kids up to 11 years old, my daughter had trouble with the older kids when she was in 1st grade. This was not in the best interest of these kids it's about the money, what's the difference Brick's taxes go up every year anyway, I can not wait to move out of this town.

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Alison

3:11 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

For what its worth......As a stay at home mom, I'm thrilled about a full day for my son. I definitely think its in his best interest to be in a full day program. I do not intend on having my child at the bus stop unattended so I can't imagine there will be issues with older children. Dr U did talk about a "Big Brother/Big Sister" type program on the buses so the K's would be paired with an older child.

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W M

3:44 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Too Many Nasty women, I am not thrilled about my son going all day to kindergarten, It would have been better for a easier transition for him with having a half day,KMEW thank you I agree such a shame there isn't more people like you on here, Jenny just because I have a different opinion than you does not make me selfish or not want my son to grow up, you need to grow up, you have the right to your opinions as well as I do, If he doesn't attend kindergarten then he doesn't move onto 1st grade.I am not choosing to pay for private kindergarten. Alison funny how you knew why each and every person were at that meeting for~ yeah right! I was not able to make the meeting because I have a husband who had to work and I was home with my sick kids and no sitter! Maybe that could be one of many reasons why people who weren't for it not there. No reason to be so rude with responding to my thoughts on here!

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jenny

4:02 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

@WM.....kindergarten is not mandatory by law. Yes,your child can move on to first grade without having gone to kindergarten. If they are 6 by Oct 1st, you can enroll them in first grade, even if they didn't attend any kindergarten. Of course, they would be at a severe disadvantage. But for parents who need that extra year before they can let go, it is an option.

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Alison

4:51 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

WM: I don't know why each and every person was at the meeting. Never said i did. I do know there were barely any people there and no one spoke up. There were several people that left when their issue was dealt with leaving even less for the K portion of the night. If you feel your son isn't ready for full day K, why not hold him back and year and send him to K next year? Maybe setting him up better for success? Not being rude. Not being snarky. Just matter of fact. I was there. Barely anyone was. No one spoke up against it. No one. Not one person. period.

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KMEW

7:48 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013

:) thanks for being on my side WM. Full day will work for some because of 2 working parents. I am a stay at home mom & fully enjoy having my children home. I am sure my son will be just fine as far as being ready academically. I will not hold him back. All I am worried about is the transition. I am feeling going right into such a long day will be hard. He will only have 1 yr of preschool/7.5 hours a week before going to full day. The bus comes at 8:30 (thank god at that point he will be with his sister on the bus) & they get home at 3:50. That is a very long day for a 5yr old esp one that has not been in any day cares or camps all day previously. I know of many kindergartners who have gone a 1/2 day & find it hard transitioning to full day 1st grade. It's hard on them. I am not happy about this & I too cannot afford a private school.

jenny

2:53 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Parents who oppose full day k should understand that children do not need to attend kindergarten by law. If they prefer, they can send their child to a private kindergarten that is only half day. I think people who are saying that their kid is too young for this are being selfish and not wanting their child to grow up. Five year olds are perfectly able to be in school for a full day. The parents just need to come to grips with it and let them grow up.

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KMEW

3:00 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

^^I don't need to "get a grip" & I am not selfish. While everyone is entitled to their own opinions, there is no need to say comments like this. No need at all. Not wanting my child in full day Kindergarten isn't saying I don't want him to grow up.

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Alison

3:12 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

If you were against it, can I ask why you didn't come to the meeting to voice your concerns? Do you know there was not ONE parent at the meeting against the full day K? Not one.

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jenny

3:39 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I did not mean to offend anyone. Having taught this age group for many years, I just feel that they should not be underestimated. They truly are capable of more than you think, if given the opportunity.

Alison

3:06 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

To all of those that have a problem with full day Kindergarten.....the time and place to complain was at the meeting last night. I, for one, have already enrolled my son in a full day Kindergarten thru a private school. I did, however, still attend the BOE meeting to hear what was happening with our town. I was appalled to see the lack of turnout. And quite frankly, half of the 30ish people who were actually there, were NOT there for the Kindergarten on the agenda. You cannot complain if you've done nothing to try and prevent it.

I think they've been working on this for many months and since we are in the minority with our half day kindergarten, we are now going to be competing with the rest of the state. I only see that as a positive for Brick. I would not be surprised if we also had district Preschool before 2015.

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FD

3:26 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

District preschool, would that be a taxpayer cost or private cost to those that send?
Full day or half day I don't think it will make much difference to my child. By that I mean I don't think he will be traumatized by going a full day or sitting on a bus with a 5th grader.
My only concern here is that the BOE doesn't know the true cost and yet they pass.
I would like for all involved to explore different options to pay for things before running right to the taxpayer for more money.

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Alison

3:46 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

FD: They were careful to say a "revenue generating preschool" so I would assume it would work similar to Howell. They pay $2500/year to send the child to 5 days of 1/2 days of preschool. They can also pay more for bus service to and from school. Since we eliminated the plc time slot for busing, this is a viable option in my mind....BUT who am i?! Just some parent who was there to learn. :-) The taxpayers have enough burdens....they shouldn't take on preschool too! :-)

I would bet that the BOE has a better idea then they think about how much it will cost. I think that if they say it cost 'x' dollars and it turns out that once they find out enrollment and find out how many teachers are retiring etc, and it winds up costing more or even less then 'x' they will be crucified. It honestly doesn't matter the cost. We are BEHIND many many towns in the state and country and we need to get up to par. Two hours of "instruction" is embarrasing. All these vacant houses will stay vacant if we can't get our school district up to standards.

pam ulrich

4:36 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

My kids both went to the PLC. It was a great school and a good concept but to keep up with the demands of the new Common Core standards for the state and the nation, we need full day kindergarten. Two hours is not enough time to teach all the material needed. Plus now the students will get specials back and the teachers will be able to enrich what they teach because the now have the gift of time. If you want to blame anyone for the need of full day kindergarten, blame the people who create the common core standards. The knowledge each student needs by a certain grade has increased greatly. Good job Brick BOE and please now focus on making our high school better and get our ranking and test scores up. A step in the right direction is full day kindergarten and I love making the PLC a specialized school like they have all over Monmouth County.

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KMC

4:44 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Alison, I was at the meeting last night and I was quite surprised that the vote for Full day kindergarten took place. It was not on the agenda. What was on the agenda was the presentation by the demographer. Nothing about a vote. And Mr. Finelli questioned why the vote was taking place when it was not on the agenda. I think it is wonderful that there is going to be full day kindergarten and that so many children will benefit. I feel bad that my children will not. However, I have to say that I thought it was unnerving that the administrators sitting in the audience had no idea that this vote was taking place or that the PLC was no longer going to be used as an elementary school. As a parent of a special needs child I also find that leaving 5 special education kindergarten classes in the PLC will not benefit those children. Many special needs children do better when they have the opportunity to mainstream in regular classes and now they will not have that. I have met many wonderful administrators and teachers at the PLC over the years and the fact that they knew nothing about this until last nights meeting was very disrespectful. Had any of this been on the agenda maybe they would not have been as surprised. But I have also found after attending Board of Education meetings that this Board and new administration have their own agenda.

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Alison

4:58 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

KMC: The vote was on the agenda that was posted online. That's why I was there. The presentation was at the top and then down towards the bottom was the vote.

Let's be real though....they made the decision before we even got there. There's no way anyone especially Mr. Finelli was changing their minds. With all due respect, he should move out of Brick. I hear he is also present at every council meeting. I thought he was a little fresh to the board....who we elected. Maybe he didn't vote for them but he was a little fresh.

I agree about the special ed kids being mainstreamed. That I don't agree with. I know there are alot of big decisions to be made and it appears as though Dr U is fairly open to listening to our concerns. Why not voice those to him? Can't hurt, right? :-)

I hope everything works out for the special ed children. But I feel like this is a big win for the kids of Brick. I don't know about you....but i'll be at March's meeting :-) lol

pam ulrich

5:41 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Almost all schools in New Jersey have kindergarten in their elementary schools. Not a good arguement.

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KMS

6:37 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Very disappointed to hear the news. I agree with the others... A five year old does not belong in school for that length of time. Let's be real...adding lunch, a special, and recess to the day is not going to be leaving a lot of extra room for academics. How much more does a 5 year old need?? I think we need to focus our time on raising our children to be respectful and kind to others at this age instead of all the pressures put on them...which they have their entire life to deal with. Looking for a 1/2 day kindergarten program....any suggestions would be wonderful!

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michelle belle

6:47 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

my child goes to lanes mill school her bus picks her up at 805 shecomes home at 305 i dont get where some parents are sayin 830 till 430 that seems a liitle off.... also the plc should be used for the preschool they will make so much money...every year they hold a lottery and there always a big demand for it...plus afterschool care which is like 20 dollars a day...i hope they keep the EEC though where it is at....my daughter attends the special ed class there...

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KMEW

7:50 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013

Ours is 8:30 pick up & 3:50 drop off. Too long of a day for 5yr olds I feel.

Karen

7:43 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I agree with full day kindergarten. What I have a probem with is these little ones on buses with much older children. In this day and age with all that transpires in schools I believe the 5yr old should go on the bus only wiith first graders no older.

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clamdigger

10:30 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

so you want a extra bus to pick up kindergarten and 1st graders only even though there could be other students at the bus stop? please tell me you don't want multiple busses going to the exact same bus stops just so the kindergarten students don't have to be on the bus w/ the dreaded 3rd,4th and 5th graders?

jenny

8:11 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I am not thrilled about the bus situation either....maybe they can enforce assigned seats....little ones in the front seats. Usually the big kids want to sit in the back anyway.

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Bernadette Williams

10:06 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I agree jenny! I do not want older kids with my kindergartener. They should sit with kids in their grade

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clamdigger

10:32 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

bus drivers usually look after the little ones when there are older students on the bus.

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JD

10:43 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Well.... people have an option...
They can drive their kid back and forth to school...

I walked to school when I was in kindergarden albeit not in Brick. It was 1/4mile away... older kids walked with younger kids... neighbors, etc.

B F

11:57 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Bussing is a privilege that many other school districts don't have. It's not mandatory. I had no intentions of putting my daughter on a bus with all kindergarten children. SInce they will be back in neighboring towns I think it would be an even easier choice to drop off and pick up. Plus, I think there is a better line of communication when families see the teacher every day, if they can.

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Always from Brick

7:41 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013

I think its great that they will be going full time. If anyone remembers years ago when the kindergarden was half day and in their home schools they came in with all the other children on the same bus, then at noon they were taken home and the pm picked up then the pm went home with all the other children on the bus at the end of the day. Most of the state kindergardeners are going full time, I think only about 20% are half day now.

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KMS

8:56 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013

Ok, so now I speak as one who not only taught kindergarten for many years but first grade for many years as well. I do stay home to raise my children and trust me I understand the sacrifices it takes to do so... Fortunate and Thankful is an understatement!  My disappointment in this new way of the world is simply the fact that a 5 year old can handle what a 5 year old can handle!  For SOME, the transition to a Full Time job will be ok!  BUT, for MOST it is just going to be an exhausting and hard road ahead!  In my past experience, kindergarten students have a tough enough time adjusting to simple routine.  It is usually about January/February that these little guys come into their own!  My opinion, they are still babies... nothing to do with their intelligence level...it is the lack of maturity of the average 5 year old.  As a first grade teacher, most of the issues again come after lunch when they literally shut down.  Why??...because their little brains are on overload.  Let's remember some just turned 6 and some haven't even turned 6 yet.  Again a lot of crying because reality has set in...the day is just long.  Somewhere around January this starts to subside.  Everyone has a right to an opinion.  I'm just stating facts.  Like I stated in a previous post I will be hoping to find a half day program.  I am not going to frustrate my children when it is completely unnecessary. I am confident that adding more hours to a day will not define my child's future!!!

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JD

3:12 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

You fail to acknowledge that many kids are in pre-school/daycare.... whatever you want to call it because both parents work. Most kids who start Kindergarten have some sort of pre-school... whether 5 days a week at 8hr/day or 3 days a week at half-days since they were 2 years old!!
So, it's not a big deal...
This is a very good move.... you are in the minority wanting 1/2 day and I highly doubt you are or have been a teacher.

Thomas Anthony

12:09 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

Interesting in theory. Without facts or figures this may prove to be a worthy effort with adverse impact on our community. How much are the associated funding cost for this program and can the child at that age favorably transition into a full-day?

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JD

3:15 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

Full day kindergarden has naptime... that is how they transition.

KMS

3:37 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

JD I did not fail to acknowledge that many kids are in daycare/ preschool. If fact, I am now on round 2 of sending my children to preschool even being a stay at home mom and not carrying a full time " paid" job! They started at 2 days a week for 2 1/2 hours and when they turned 4, 3 days for 2 1/2 hours. I am very well aware that I am in the minority! I do not appreciate your arrogance in assuming I have not taught both kindergarten and first grade for 9 plus years before having a family of my own! I am happy for you if you are for the full day program and wish success to the entire idea! From my past experiences AND YES I DO HAVE EXPERIENCE the majority of children will have a difficult time transitioning! And PS if you fully read the article instead of bashing other there WILL NOT be nap time!

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JD

4:23 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

The kids won't have any issue with full day... in fact, they will love it.
Only Helicopter parents such as yourself and in the minority want 1/2 day... dumb, dumb, dumb....
glad you are not teaching anymore... if you ever were!!!

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jessica

10:14 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013

KMS I am also a stay at home mother, I agree wit you. I think full time is alot to put on a 5 year old. My older children loved the PLC but they were so tired when the came home, they usually layed down after school because they needed to relax. I think most parents are happy about this because they will no longer need to pay for after care, or less after care. I am not saying there is anything wrong with that, I would hate to have to pay those high costs also, but I do not think 8-3 5 days a week at 5 years old is thr right answer either.

Kim

4:23 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

My older daughter went to private kindergarten, which was full day. She was young for the grade and I was worried about how she would deal with a full day class. It was fine. None of the kids were suffering for being there for a full day. I think as long as the parents do their part at home as far as getting the child to bed at an early time and give them a good breakfast, they are fine to have a full day of learning.

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Motherof2

4:37 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

The PLC is a great school! My son attended the PLC the last year they offered the specials (art, gym, library, music, and science). My daughter attends the PLC now. I have no complaints, it is a wonderful place. I will be sad to see it come to an end.

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Jerseyclone

7:11 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013

Just what I need a tax increase on top of Acrapolis will throw at us. It is time to stop and start over.

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Credence is

2:34 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013

They need to stop running for political office and start doing that what it is educationally correct for students.

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KMC

4:18 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013

I agree with you Jerseyclone. I wish I knew what this was going to cost. I feel with all that happened to so many during Hurricane Sandy, that should be our top priority right now. This full day Kindergarten could have waited until next year. I think it's great for the kids to go full day, but without knowing the costs I have to be very skeptical. And very disappointed that no one involved in kindergarten other than the Board Members or Board Office knew this was happening. The teachers and PLC admin. were kept in the dark.

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J

12:02 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013

It's a good thing! The kids will adjust. 2 1/2 hours the kids currently go isn't nearly enough time. Between getting the kids off the bus. Snack time, play time and getting the kids bundled back up on the buses ect... How much time is left in the day for instruction?

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Watchman

5:43 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013

Alison. you seem to have a lot to say , but not very consistent.First you say not one person spoke out against full day k.,then it changed to not one parent.Then you think Mr Finelli should move out of Brick because he asked questions and attends T.C.meetings.Im sure I heard him say he was not against what they did,but how they did it.Maybe people don't come to the meetings because of people like you or because whatever they say won't matter.OH, and I think he is the person who tells the school board what goes on at town council meeting like the Pilot program at the Foodtown site that could screw the the school district out of $500,000 a year for the next 30 years. You are probably right he didn't vote for some of them,since he ran against in the last election.

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Alison

4:29 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013

Seriously?! Lol
Ok true, in one post I said "person" and one I said "parent". My bad. I thought parents were people......didn't realize the "Watchman" watches grammar so closely, please excuse me.
What I said, Mr Finelli, was that in my opinion (which I'm allowed to have) you were fresh (disrespectful) to the board. If you were unhappy you should move out of Brick.
Curious what the statement "maybe people don't come to the meetings because of people like you...." means? How could I deter people from coming? I was there to learn about my town. I don't even USE the brick public schools. We send our children to private school.
Why would you think you were the first to tell the board about the pilot program?
And thanks for the heads up...... I will make sure to look out for your name on the next ballot. Kinda explains a lot.
Have a great day, mr Finelli.

Watchman

6:49 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013

To concerned parent/educator.I saw your post but could not find it here..My response.We don't vote on the school budget,we vote on the tax levy.The township budget has nothing to do with the school budget We don't get to vote on what the township spends unless it's a binding referendum on the ballot This years estimated school budget is $144,000,000 and estimated tax levy $97,000,000,big difference.If it's under the 2% cap we don't get to vote on the school tax levy. And it's spelled separate.

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