Boat Ramp Closure Debate Heats Up
Committee will look into closure of ramp by administration
Councilman Dan Toth and Mayor Stephen C. Acropolis squared off Tuesday night over a boat ramp that Acropolis' administration decided to close earlier this month.
The Glenwood Place boat ramp, a dirt ramp at a street end that leads to the Metedeconk River, has been blocked off with a guard rail. The closing of the ramp led to an outcry in the boating community, with Toth leading the charge.
"The ramp, and therefore public access, was closed unilaterally, without benefit of discussion, public input, or state review, and is a hardship to many Brick Township residents that may not have the luxury or means to be able to enjoy our waters alternatively," said Toth, reading from a statement he had prepared.
Toth called for the ramp to be immediately reopened. Acropolis said that would not happen.
"The administration is not going to open up the boat ramp again," said Acropolis.
Now, a committee of the township council, which has yet to be formed, will look into the matter.
Acropolis has said complaints from neighbors about public urination, littering and noise spurred the administration to close the ramp. Toth, whose family owns property adjacent to the ramp, said the problems are being overstated, and Acropolis should have brought concerns about the ramp to council rather than unilaterally deciding to shut it down.
Opinions from the public were mixed at Tuesday's council meeting.
"I'm glad that it is closed unless major changes are made," said Denis Ambio of Manor Drive. "Last year, two girls actually squatted on the water's edge and went to the bathroom."
Ambio said users of the ramp can be heard early in the morning and late at night using foul language. He also said people have been launching large performance boats that make a lot of noise – especially when boaters have kept their engines running for long periods of time.
"It's the same as someone leaving a Harley Davidson running with open pipes in front of your house," said Ambio. "We still enjoy it, but now the balance has shifted. It's more of a pain than a pleasure right now."
But former Councilwoman Helen Fayad, who owns property near the ramp, said the concerns are overblown.
"The've been clean, neat and have caused me absolutely no problems whatsoever," Fayad said, of boaters. "Glenwood was open and was being used in 1971 when I came down here. I've seen no problem with it."
Fayad suggested putting an ordinance in place that limits the size of a boat that can be launched there.
Jay Santos said his neighbors use the ramp because they can't afford the prices of private marina launches. He spoke about one struggling neighbor who launches his boat at the ramp and fishes to feed his family.
"He freezes the fish to get him through the winter. I'm sure he's not the only one," said Santos.
Acropolis took issue with Santos' statement, however, telling him that the township-owned Traders Cove Marina charges $10 per day to launch and retrieve a boat, and $100 for unlimited launches.
"If you're launching a $12,000 Waverunner, and you can't afford the $10 at a ramp, much less a $150,000 Cigarette boat, come on," he said.
"If anybody can't pay the $100 fee at Traders Cove, I'll pay for the first 10," said Acropolis. "I am willing to take $1,000 of my own money to pay for those first 10 people."
Toth said residents should have free access to the water, and keeping the boat ramp was in line with state Department of Environmental Protection policies that encourage public access to tidal waters.
"This ramp has been used by generations of Brick Township residents," Toth said.
Council President John Ducey said a comittee of the township council, led by Toth, will look into the ramp's closure.
Frank James
6:31 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Kind of hard to buy the "poor boater" argument . Makes me wonder if it's safe for broke people to be operating boats and perhaps not maintaining them safely.
It was a problem with cars and it is a problem with boats . ( A I'm a boater)
10 to 15 dollars to pay at a ramp is too much ? And what's with the public launch facility at Trader's cove ? Is it usable ?
Mrs. G.
11:25 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
It isn't free - it is $10. a launch.
can't say who
6:34 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
The heated debate did have a humorous side when Toth reminded the main objector - the owner of Mermaid Marina - that his internet ad stated that he welcomes everyone to enjoy his marina and if you do not have a boat slip YOU CAN USE THE FREE RAMP A BLOCK AWAY. The mayor worked hard to get objectors to back his action - but remember that our bully mayor is a master debater.
citizen
12:06 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Is it debater or baiter?
can't say who
1:03 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Put the two words together quickly. Masterdebater.
Lori Morrison
9:09 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Mermaid Cove Marina does say on their home page that there is a free ramp one block away! I think they need to update.
captainJ
6:57 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
It's real clear what what Acropolis is doing, he's removing the competition,a free boat ramp and sending residents/tax payers to the Municipal ramp so they have to pay a fee. nothing for free Acropolis is saying.
JD
8:50 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Agreed...
He has to find a way to generate revenue at Traders Cove..
what a money pit that is.
brick strong
12:46 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
going to make traders cove a success if it kills everyone else..
type writer
7:46 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Acrapolis is pretty generous with his taxpayer funded pay checks. He makes 160 thousand dollars a year off the tax payers backs and he is willing to shell out 1 thousand for boat ramp fees. If the tax payers did not pay him or his wife and kids, for their government "jobs", they would all be living in tent city with the other bums.
Ryan Meyers
10:27 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Great Point ! Don't forget all the raises he handed out, plus all the unneeded jobs created for friends.
can't say who
1:12 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Our mayor BOUGHT his present $100,000 job BY GIVING Juan Balue a $50,000 raise in Brick and then Balue - a commissioner on the TR water authority - had Acroppolis handed the job. Of course it was all on the up and up because Balue abstained from the TR vote. HOW NICE!!!!!!
Brick
7:53 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Again Mr Mayor talks down to the taxpayer. How respectful.
Let's keep this in perspective, the ramp is used by people who are launching 16' outboard boats not the type the type or size of the mayors yaht and his friends.
Ken
12:27 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
It seems the Mayor is attacking the boaters, he also helped in closing the F cove
Spartacus
8:00 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Maybe our Mayor has money to burn, but the rest of us do not.We pay taxes to Brick and we should be allowed free public access into OUR waterways.
Brickresident
8:01 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
I agree if you can afford to pay for a boat for wave runner, you should be able to afford 10 bucks to launch it. If not then i guess its time to take up something free or stop being cheap.
Riverdweller
6:18 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
What about canoes and kayaks? If you own one of those are you wealthy like a power boat owner? The ramp was used by more than power boaters.
captainJ
6:52 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Thanks to our Mayor Acrapolis...................there's not much left that's FREE in Brick!
Matt
8:14 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
A petition is available using signon.org to get the ramp reopened.
http://signon.org/sign/reopen-the-glenwood-place?source=c.em.mt&r_by=276627
Please sign, email friends, post to facebook... Get the word out.
neilnj
8:33 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
i used the ramp often to launch a small 15' Speedster. it was very convenient to drop it in with my son taking the boat and me heading back to the house. $100 buys a lot of fuel for a small boat. As a taxpayer in Brick for 9 years on a lagoon it would be nice to get something in return.
Kelly Anderson
8:33 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Way to go Mayor! For the record, there isn't enough water there for my ex to drop his 33' speed boat-not sure where Mr. Mayor got the idea that they could be dropped in there. I do want to say thanks for making sure that me as a single mom can't use this free ramp anymore to drop my little 16' used jet boat in. I used trader's cove twice and had my truck broken into so that stupid $100 pass is worthless to me. I can't afford a pass at a better marina and keep the boat in good repair so I guess no more boat.
Lori Morrison
8:37 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Does anyone know who paved this road? It has been a LONG time since Traders Cove was purchased, but wasn't one of the issues discussed then that there would be a free boat ramp for residents?
BW
1:09 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Lori due to the fact green acres funds were used on trader's cove, they can not make it free for residents and charge others. The town was well aware of this from the start, and the free ramp was just another lie by the mayor to get residents to go along with him.
Lori Morrison
8:56 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
BW, Thank you for the information. Now is there is someone who can tell me who paved the road?
Vin
8:43 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Nothing but another money grab. I mean come one. Open a township owned slip at a lower rate then marina slips and then close the free one.
Here's an idea. If there is too much traffic and noise at the free ramp then perhaps we should (brace for it , I know this is a difficult jump to make) open a couple a more free ones to relieve overcrowding at the original.
This township has far too much waterfront to only have the one. That is what the problem is.
Frederick John LaVergne for Congress
9:59 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
I would hope everyone will download the link and read my response - it was too long to post here.... http://www.scribd.com/doc/101032843/I-Would-Like-to-Make-an-Illustration-of-a-Concept-With-Respect-to-the-Boat-Ramp-Issue-in-Brick
Frederick John LaVergne - "Democratic-Republican" for Congress - New Jersey's Third Congressional District.
Chief Wahoo
10:09 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
smells like fascism to me !
time to run this scumbag out of town !!
Chief Wahoo
10:13 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
"If anybody can't pay the $100 fee at Traders Cove, I'll pay for the first 10," said Acropolis. "I am willing to take $1,000 of my own money to pay for those first 10 people."
No Mayor you are willing to take $1000 of your money that is taken from the taxpayers who you WORK for.......with that siad, make sure 10 people take him up on his offer and if for no other reason to make him lose $1000
Art Sholty
10:29 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Bullet Dan Toth was elected to serve the Fayad Family which includes the Bullet Man's father who is married to Helen Fayad, and Dan himself who is a member of her sales staff. You see, Dan is also a broker, so he says. Apparently Bullet Dan is having a hard time selling or buying property because of this incident concerning urination and deficating across the street from the Fayad Empie. Our Mayor Steve Acropolis is on the right course because property values are diminishing in the area of the Fayad holdings which is a good example of alerting the public of the problems and then purchasing them from the disgruntled owners. Soon the Fayad Empire will expand and open a marina charging big $$$$$$ to launch your boat. Don't believe the Bullet Man Dan, he has visions of mucho $$$$$ runing around in his cheap head and with all this $$$$ he still won't change his Health Care from Brick to his wife's to save taxpayers $$$$. Soon more on Bullet Man concerning his illegal automobile license plate which has a medallion (NJ State Legislature) on it. Dan has more time on council to misimpersonate fellow taxpayers. Can we afford him anymore? Think about it. Dan has got to go. He should make like a tree and leave..
Chief Wahoo
10:33 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
excellent......keep it coming.......only difference is....i despise them all !!
Glenn
10:47 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
You two are bigger idiots then the mayor.
BW
1:13 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Art seriously! Your nose is so brown now, it will never return to its normal color. Enough of your kissing the mayors butt. It is time for you to aplogize to the taxpayers for all the BS you have asked them to believe on behalf of your Lord and King.
I hear flordia calling better hurry!
can't say who
1:23 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
A note posted above. Why doesn't our mayor take benefits or a salary? Our mayor BOUGHT his present $100,000 job BY GIVING Juan Balue a $50,000 raise in Brick and then Balue - a commissioner on the TR water authority - had Acroppolis handed the job. Of course it was all on the up and up because Balue abstained from the TR vote. HOW NICE!!!!!! Art Sholty why don’t you stop kissing the mayor’s ass and see what the mayor really is. Your smoke screen AIN’T WORKING.
type writer
4:44 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
His nose regular color is bright red from the alcohol.
type writer
5:11 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Hey Art, your friend George Jefferson died. I am sure you were a big fan of his.
Lori Morrison
8:59 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Mr. Sholty, Do you know who paved the road? Was it our township DPW or was someone contracted to do the job? Thank you.
Mrgrumpass
11:04 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Danny Boy you may be running for either reelection as council or for mayor the only problem is first we will not back you or work for you and if you find some poor people to work for your campaign all your past indiscretions will come to light! You are a looser but your ego is too inflated to see! Mayor Dan, Assemblymen Dan, Senator Dan ANT NO WAY! We will be at any and all your public appearances and we will expose you for what you are Brick town’s very own Rev. Al Sharpton want to be!
Glenn
11:28 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Grumpass, Sholty & Wahoo, you always bring politics into every comment you make. This article is about someone illegally closing a public access to the water not about who's running for some future office. I was a regular user of that ramp as it is only blocks from my home.
Dan Toth is fighting for my rights and I thank him for his efforts.
I would run for political office if I had the patience to put up with you hacks, but I don't.
Try and keep to the content of the articles and stop throwing your policical twist into everything.
Mrgrumpass
8:41 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Glenn but I bust my butt to make a living and have dreamed of boat ownership for many years and fun with my family on the water but I can't afford it I live within feet of a marina I can't afford a boat and all the cost of boat ownership, I believe that all shore towns should have free ramps for residents. And as for Danny Boy, and the rest of the council I call it as I see it any time their names are mentioned in the press! He is not working for you I have worked close to this, egomaniacal jerk; it’s always for Danny and not for you!
Vera Fozman
11:28 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Brick is not a "police state". The barrier needs to be removed.
Seen Enough
12:24 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Seriously? How about your husband and his cohorts focusing on the real issues facing this town? Wasn't it their pledge to save us money? This is just another smoke screen so no one focuses on the real issues which affect 100% of the town's population not some small % ( boaters - which probably included some out of towners using this ramp). "Police State" - stop the dramatics.
type writer
5:13 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Hi Vera. You voting for me again and working on my re-election? I
Mrgrumpass
8:43 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Vera "POLICE STATE" ????? did you forget your meds today?
Imalocal
11:51 am on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Here's an idea for the gentleman that needs a free ramp to "feed his family" with the fish he catches from his boat. Sell the boat! Then use the money for food. Also, it would be interesting to see how many people would change their view on closing the ramp if people were urinating in view from your home. Act with some couth and maybe these privileges would not be taken away. Everyone has something to complain about- really, this is not a big enough issue to call the mayor a facist. Give me a break.
Mrs. G.
3:21 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Did you ever hear the saying about teaching someone to fish?. Here is a person doing the best he can in this economy, and is trying to stand on his own feet, and you tell him to sell his means of independence? That just seems odd to me. We should be applauding his efforts to do the best he can with what he has.
Mrgrumpass
8:47 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Boat ownership cost a lot of money, unless this man is using a row boat your story dosen't hold water!
Chesty Puller
9:47 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Really, and what does he do when the money from the sale of his boat runs out the cost of the boat being under $2500? What about the Mayor unilateraly closing down a resourse the People have been using for many years virtually overnight? How about the fact that the barrier is illegal, under CAFRA, a permit should have been issued before the barrier was built. Being a waterfront community, you would think Mayor Acropolis, or someone in his administration, should have known this. Is government now above the law? The issue is not only about the closing the ramp, but the process under which this occured, part of which process was illegal.
citizen
12:24 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
I would think that if this was "Public Access" that the "Public" would have been informed about the closing. Is this democracy, or dictatorship?
Art Sholty
1:20 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Hey Citizen, Its about urination and defication. Did I do it? Did the Mayor do it? Did you do it? Those who did it are the ones who caused this mess to get the attention of the proper authorities. Thank the Mayor for doing his job by closing the ramp.................Hey maybe the Bullet Man was in need to empty himself all the BS he keeps promoting at council meetings. Things are bad enough and now Bullet Dan is allegedly moving his business out of Brick to possibly save on taxes. How about that, as Mel Allen used to say. What else Toth?
Glenn
3:30 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Hey Art, has anyone come forward with pictures of all these public urinations and defications? Haven't found any on YouTube.
BW
3:35 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Its funny, they do the samething at windward. Urinate deficate, smoke crack, drink, have sex, live in the woods, but Steve hasnt closed that down yet. Wonder why?
Oh I know the answer, because he cant force people to pay to use an ocean beach, like he can force them to use traders cove.
I smell a huge lawsuit coming to Brick very soon. More money out of our pockets and into George Gilmores. AHHH the smell of corruption, smells worse then a week old dumpster.
Chesty Puller
10:01 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Actually Art, no one knows who the perpertrator's of these acts are. The Mayor doing his job?? Since when is it the Mayor's job to violate state law? Maybe you know something about Mayor Acropolis' "investigation" into this matter and could enlighten the rest of us? Like, how many complaints were made? Were these complaint's made to the Mayor or the Police? If the Mayor, did he refer the complaint's to the Police. If so, what were the results of the investigation? Were any tickets or summons issued? Arrest's made? Who did the Mayor consult with before taking such drastic action? Why did Mayor Acropolis see fit to violate state law? We are a waterfront community, did Mayor Acropolis not know he was committing an illegal act? If not, did no one else in his adminstration know the Mayor was committing an illegal act? If not why not? There are a lot question's and few answers. The Citizens of Brick Township deserve answer's. Hopefully the Township Council, our represenatives to government, will get those answer's.
BW
1:04 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Wake up people, dont you see what is going on? Steve closed this ramp in order to FORCE us to use traders cove and FORCE us to put even more money in the town coffers for him to spend on what ever the whim of the week is.
This is blanant and as clear as the nose on your face. When the hell are the feds going to make themselves known in brick? Scarpelli was a chior boy compared to Acropolis!
Chief Wahoo
1:30 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
so says Captain Obvious
lisad
1:45 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
"The administration is not going to open up the boat ramp again," said Acropolis.
This is our wonderful dictator, i mean mayor...Ok, lets just get rid of this admin and hope the door DOES hit acropolis in the a&* on the way out. what a jerk this guy is. bring back scarpelli, at least he cared about us....i think i'd rather have a crook then what we have now.
bricklakeriv
4:08 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Here goes bullying again by Acroplois and his administration.
A year from now we can launch our boats and elect a new Mayor.
type writer
4:51 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Acropolis and Toth are both gone next election. It is obvious that acrapolis is in it for himself and his families financial benefit. Toth and his family are benefitting finanially also, only they do it through the back door while he pretends to care mostly about the town. Toth is better than Acrapolis, but not good enough to re-elect.
citizen
6:15 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Dear Mr. Sholty, There very well be reasons for the closure. MY point is that it is a PUBLIC ACCESS and it was not brought to the PUBLIC's attention. It was just closed without any notice. Were the girls defecating and urinating arrested for(at the very least) indecent exposure? Were the police called? Is there a report? is this why it wasn't brought to the PUBLiC? I don't have a boat or even know where this is. I just know when I smell something bad.
darrell
8:11 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
By Public Access does that mean that the Township owns the property? Or who does?
formernypd
8:17 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
make it so it will be only boats, up to 8 ft, in with and maybe 20 ft, long ,and close it at 8:30 pm. or 9:00 pm. I think thats fare.. I'm new to all of this, So please...I'm trying to help..
Fred
8:44 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
From the looks of your spelling and grammar, you should feel right at home with most of the cretins that write on this Patch.
Glenn
10:25 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Hey Fred aren't you going to comment on Brick resident82's poor grammer? There vs. they're?
brick strong
9:12 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Dan Toth and Mayor ACRAPOLIS Have been butting heads for a long time and there both Republicans..hummm ..
Art Sholty
1:37 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Hey Brick Resident, you're wrong, The Mayor is REpublican but Bullet Dan Toth is a "Galvanized Democrat," who jumped ship and now lives with the Dems. He thinks that by doing this he will Jap the Mayor. He is fastly garnering negative votes for his contention as a Mayor in 2013. Never happen as long as I and many, many more continue getting on his case and letting others know what unethical problems he is conducting here in Brick and elsewhere.. The ELSE WHERE will be given to all at the proper time and place. Wait 'till you hear it........................WOW. Right now Bullet Dan is only out for himself, nobody else. Why do you think he ABSTAINS SO VERY MUCH? Think about it and while you're at it, the FAYAD EMPIRE of which he is a sort of relative, continues to promote him. His father got caught building a dock a year ago and was told to stop but did he? I know, its up yo you to find out. This happened on the other river. LOng live the FAYAD COMPOUND and DAn Toth and his $$$$$$$.
type writer
6:05 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Art, what does " Jap the Mayor" mean? Is that another racist slur by you?
Thomas Paine
9:37 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Hey art sholty, do you have a crush on dan toth? He's a good-looking guy, but, well, never mind. You seem to have a fetish with him.
Glenn
10:21 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
The paving was done by a private contractor with dark green trucks with a yellow logo/signage. Definately not town trucks. As for the guard rail and shoulders, I did not see this being done.
Lori Morrison
11:39 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
The township couldn't put up a barrier without paving the road? Taxpayers money should have been used on a road that needs repair. This is something that should have been discussed in a public forum and approved before any of our tax money was used. All I see here is wasteful spending. Thanks Glenn for the info.
Anthony
11:00 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012
I can see it now: The ramp re-opens and suddenly there's another story about losing our garbage collection and firing 30 police officers.
lakerivdave
6:48 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
The people who bought and live near the free ramp knew it was there when they bought they're properties. I sympathise with the reported abuses they are dealing with but the urination and defication is a police matter.
I've launch my Kayak's there for the last few years. Public discussions before heavy handed decisions are made a thing of the past is this town. I have signed the petition and have also volunteered to clean this area on a weekly basis.
The opinions that if you "can't afford $100 a year then you shouldn't have a boat." are astounding to me !!!
KEEP IT FREE !!!
This is a great location to LAUNCH a campaign.
Suzie A.
8:23 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Thank you for your generous and kind offer to volunteer. Not everyone who has a boat has a lot of money. I inherited my 1960's open boat from a relative and use it for fishing and crabbing, and as an unemployed person I do not have the extra money right not for boat ramp fees.
Unaware
8:59 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Evidently our real estate agent and lawyer forgot to inform us that by buying a home across from a boat ramp may include public urination foul language not to mention the launching of high performance boats at all hours of the night.I agree it is sad that it had to come to this but something needed to be done.As far as some residents that feel some type of proof needs to be provided am I supposed to set up a tripod.If there is away of controlling this I am all for it .You can't expect residents to call the police everytime these actions take place that would be ridiculous.My neighbor who has been here for almost fifty years said it was not always like this.I would hate to believe that this the norm when buy a home across from a boat ramp.
Glenn
10:12 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
If someone were urinating on your front lawn would you take a picture or call the police. As for this large loud boat, that was two or three years ago for only a couple of weekends. And if you don't like listening to passing boats, why did you buy on the water. You're just like the people that bought new homes in Englishtown then tried to shutdown Raceway Park due to the noise.
Buyer beware.
lakerivdave
10:42 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
I understand COMPLETELY ...another case of the majority suffering for the transgressions of a few....Possible REASONABLE remedies were never discussed in public....(Restrict the hours ? Restrict Boat trailer sizes?? Volunteer litter patrol?)...That's the biggest problem to me with this decision.
........ "My Way or the Highway"....Who works for who?
Art Sholty
2:35 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
@ UNAWARE and GLENN,
I can understand both of you which reminds me of an airport that was built many years ago. It was named IDLEWILD, later JFK in NYC. Before the airport was opened there were only a few homes built but after it was open for business...............WOW. The town of Lawrence is the name and after there were many more homes constructed, the home owners got together and wanted JFK closed because of noise. It was OK with the owners because this would bring tax relief etc. make more jobs open and in general it would be a home run for all. NO WAY JOSE. The old cry seems to be surfacing once more......................"not near my dwelling can you construct this problem." Well the Mayor, yes my friend, has tried to help and you boo birds have come to roost on his head. After hearing your remarks on this Batch page, I don't feel sorry for you one bit. Move out if need be but there always will be a Brick, "The jewel of South Jersey." With or without you.
Glenn
5:51 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Art, do you make sense to anyone besides yourself?
type writer
7:14 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
@Art Sholty, the same goes for you. If you dont like our president Obama or the united States of America you can always move out. As you like to tell others to move out of Brick if they dont like the mayor. The USA is the "jewel of the world" If you dont like it or obama then move out.
By the way, if you love Brick so much, why do you only live here part time? You have no right to even comment on here. You only moved here recently, you never worked here and you only live here part time.
Riverdweller
9:38 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
Unaware-Did you call the police even once? I bet no. I'm sure you never took a leak on the side of the road either. One resident on the creek complains and one marina owner complains and the ramp is shut. If it was about a no wake zone the Brick Police boat would have camped out by the marina one weekend. That would have solved the problem for the summer. If it was about public urination and trash, a sign would have been posted. A port-a-jon and a trash can for the summer would have cost less than the guard rail. I considered the ramp an asset and factored it in to my decision to purchase on the creek.
Re-open the ramp to all boats now.
citizen
9:56 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012
If we can have cameras at red llights, why can't we have cameras at areas like this. I understand that some dumpsters have cameras to catch people doing illegal dumping.
Saying that.. I meant police reports, and YES, the police should be called each and every time someone is defecating and/or urinating in public. Also, I thought it wasn't deep enuff there to launch those big boats.
shy was this done secretly. Nothing was posted to advise people that this would be closed by a certain date? That would have been the courteous thing to do.
Vin
12:38 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
It's kind of funny how we continue to discuss the concept of public property. I'm not sure exactly when it happened but it has become evident that at some point in time "public" property became TOWNSHIP property and is to be treated as private property owned by said township. It's really quite sad.
As I said before the best solution to this really would have been to look for more sites to open free ramps throughout the waterfront to relieve overcrowding at this one because that is really what the heart of the issue is.
Which leads to the question of why isn't the traders cove ramp free? It's a park right? public property? for the public to use? nope township property and you best pay the township more to use it. Taxes? nah they don't really cover that. It's not like it was our money that built it right?
Anthony
1:40 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Keep the ramp closed and start using Traders Cove. I'd like to keep my garbage being collected. Thank you.
BW
2:57 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
" Move out if need be but there always will be a Brick, "The jewel of South Jersey." With or without you"
Funny coming from a man who has only been a resident of Brick since March of 1999, and only lives here for 6 months out of the year, the other 6 is spent in flordia, tell people who have lived here for 50 years to move if they dont like it. Tell me Art is that what you were told up north when you came here 12 years ago?
Seriously Artie, move on move out, Steve will put you in front of the bus to lessen the impact it has on him. Ask anyone who has had anything to do with him. I hear Mikey is singing so loud they even put off his sentencing because his song is so sweet.
clyde
5:09 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Is the launch in Forge Pond off of RT70 still open?? I know its a bit out of the way from Mantoloking rd, but if you have a smaller low draft vessel, it still FREE. Only downfall is you have to go under Rt70 so boat has to have low deck height.
BW
5:11 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
shhhhhhhhhh dont remind him about that one he will close it next
type writer
5:21 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Its still there. That is county property and the rt 70 bridge makes it impossible to go under if you have a boat bigger than a 15 foot boston whaler skiff. Even then they only get under when its low tide.
SJ
6:47 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
When I saw the road being paved, I thought they were improving the ramp not closing it!! WHY did they pave the road? So the house next to the ramp has a new 171 ft road in front of it,? I am sure there are many of us who would like a nice new road in front of our houses. I think there is more to this than forcing boaters to pay at Traders Cove.
Glenn
10:55 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Exactly, why did the road get paved to put up a guard rail in the river. Something smells fishy and it ain't the Metedeconk.
charles sellick
10:47 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Lets cut all the bull, the question is dose the mayor have the right to close a public access point to the public water way on his own without the approval of the Township Council and a discussion at an meeting open to the residents of Brick except in an emergency (which this is not). The answer is a big NO. The mayor has taken it upon himself to decide what he wants. For what ever reason the mayor decided he wanted this ramp closed without input from the towns residents. I would think that most resident do not care on way or another if the ramp is open or close. They should be concerned in the way it was done. What will be next that the mayor desides is in his veiw is best for the residents.
The person who stated if you do not like it you can move well I got some news for them I pay taxes the same as them, I have a right to live here and have a right to voice my opinion the same as any one else, like it or not. This is not their private little town, Brick belongs to all of us and we all have the same rights.
The mayor is wrong, the ramp should be reopened NOW, then if the mayor feels it should be closed it should be addressed at a public meeting at which time the residents who care can voice their opinion and the Town Council can deside
Thomas Paine
9:32 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Charles Sellick,
The same logic would apply to township-owned fields. There must be complaints when the lights remain on afterhours, even when there is no game in progress. There must be boys and girls that get hit with a baseball or softball and sustain some injuries during the game. Mayor's solution: CLOSE THE FIELDS.
This smacks of ridiculousness on so many levels it is not even funny.
Anthony
11:30 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Dear Mayor Steve,
I would like my free $100 donated to the campaign of whoever runs against you. Thanks.
type writer
8:52 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
LOL
Comfortably Numb
1:22 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
I drove down Mantoloking road earlier today and looked down the street as I passed and saw that the metal barrier pictured above isn't there any more. There was a wooded barrier instead. Anyone know what happened? Did some angry person steal the metal one? If so I guess putting up wood is cheaper if its going to get stolen. LOL
Chesty Puller
9:26 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
According to the workers, the new barricade was put up in order to let kayayers thru. I'm guessing that Mayor Acropolis, after his "intensive investigation" found that kayers were OK.
Chesty Puller
9:28 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Also, please check the Save the Glenwood Boat Ramp on Facebook. All comments are welcome, pro and con, in this way we may find a common sense solution to this "problem". Please "like" and "share" the page.
Glenn
4:40 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Did the mayor's "intensive investigation" determine that kayakers don't urinate in the woods, only power boaters?
brick strong
2:03 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET GET BACK TO THE REAL PROBLEMS IN BRICK LIKE TAXES,PEOPLE LOSING THERE HOME..?? WHO CARES WERE THERE GOING TO LAUNCH THERE BOATS ..ARE YOU KIDDIN ME ..WAKE UP AND GET BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO...TRADERS COVE , FRENCHMANS DUMP...WASTE OF OUR MONEY ..NOT HELPING THE PROBLEMS IN TOWN ..STOP WITH THE CRAP...
Mrgrumpass
4:33 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
Brick Res I agree! The New Bees promised tax cuts and all sorts of wonderful things, and what did we get????????????? Almost 6 months in office and…………………………………. Nothing, Oh I’m sorry with the help of councilman Al Sharpton AH sorry Dan Toth they were able to cut Magazine Subscriptions WOW!
Lori Morrison
4:45 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
The paving and guardrail were done without any approval or knowledge to the public or council. The Mayor and his administration spent taxpayer money to do this. How can taxes go down when we have a Mayor who thinks he can do whatever he wants. It makes me wonder what else has he done and how much money was spent to do it? I would like to know how much this cost.