So it will be 2 am

I heard Mayor Barrella stated that the $160k was only about $3 per household per month in new tax, as if the money from the boardwalk was no big deal to the the residents. Seems he will get his way, and can still go out and have a drink til' 2. I liked the idea of getting the money. Oh well.

Hey town council!
Offer 1:30 and 500k
If that doesn't work offer 1:40 and 450k
Clowns.

Good for them. Let the 4 Stooges come up with another plan like "take the $$$ and rescind the parking plan" Now wouldn't that be a novel idea??????

The BW met with other business owners, hotel owners and residents last summer to come up with ideas to help solve a problem everyone admits we have. The only answer was more parking. They said the $40K last year was with no strings and asked how they could donate the money, but never wrote the check. They were billed $28K last year for “special officers” assigned to their events, and those bills are still open. They refused suggestions of earlier last calls, and promised litigation on any restrictions on their liquor licenses. They continue to market and bring in DJ’s and Bands that attract a crowd that “with their wild party scene” advertising is prone to bad behavior. Where is their compromise? Good neighbors? Last weekend their web site said the Pilot Parking Restrictions didn’t exist. Why not work with the town and promote Free Parking in the Little Silver Lot after 11PM for their customers? We made that concession and handed out nearly 500 passes for their workers. The majority of this Council won’t put a dollar figure on the quality of life of the residents. More police by itself will not solve this problem.

"The only answer was more parking"...That's a solution! . . .and Mike...with you and Barrella doing your vignettes at last years April 19, 2011 Council meeting... PLEASE!

Barrella...asked Council if they would agree to accept the $40,000, with agreement that they do not have to complete applications as outlined in 5-12 (Councilman Corbally: no; Councilman Hennessy: yes; Councilman Lurie: don't know what you’re talking about – there is no offer on the table)...

...or how about this little exchange between Barrella and Lt. Dikun...

...Mayor Barrella: asked Lt. Dikun what his reaction would be if somebody, who was stopped by a Police Officer, asked to work something out outside the borough ordinances, by writing a check to Pt. Pleasant Beach (Lt. Dikun: that would not be a recommended way for a Police Officer to respond.)...

...and this is how Councilman Corbally presented the BW offer at that meeting...

...Jenkinsons refused to complete applications and offered $40,000 as a donation to the Police Department...Do I have this wrong Mike?

Meanwhile: Cavagnaro had to have been huffing and puffing. . .when he heard Corbally and Barrella describe what he later termed a "bribe" by the BW. . .Yeah there were lots of compromising going on at that meeting?

http://www.pointpleasantbeach.org/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1207

Everyone is now looking through green color glasses!

Both Owners of Jenks and Martells have enough money to buy the town or just close the bars down and tear down the buildings at this point. Well, maybe they should just tear down the buildings. Then watch everyone in town cry as their taxes shoot through the roof!!!!!!!!

Mike, perhaps I misunderstand you, but it now seems you are blaming the "crime rate" on the Boardwalk Clubs. If not, then why would you be posting this under the story about the Bar Closing? Your scare tactics are not what I expect of a person in your position on the council. As a former, supporter I would have to think twice the next time you are up for election.

It is all about being a Supporter? Until something is done you don't like? Perhaps there will be no one left who would want to run for election? Let's just continue to put all the cronies in on both sides. This is what you will get!

how about stopping summer rentals , cutting all public worker salaries, going to 401 k retirement plan and 35% contribution to health benefits. place all public worker jobs out for bid, lowest bid gets the job. same is done when a business wants work from the town. give it a try and lets see how low property taxes will go. and put up a $12.00 toll at the bridges and bay head.

jenks owners should fund their own election campaign. they are successful business men and would be able to rein in excessive public worker pay plans.. (here is the pay plan, take it or we will find someone that will) they manage a large business and would support the people and not the union shake down

Mr. Corbally, if you are so concerned about rising crime rates and quality of life, why did you (plural) cut back on the funding of Special Police Officers last year? Please don't blame it on lack of money because you could have simply raised the fines for the bad behavior of the "night crowd". Please don't tell us funds are tight while your legal bills have accumulated over the past several years (the "prayer issue" comes to mind). And we won't include what you must be paying for this and the parking fiasco. Thank you, for coming on this forum though. I may not agree with your actions but at least you had the nerve to respond.

The Pt. Beach Death Spiral has begun !

We had more "Specials" in 2011 than 2010, and more this year than last. Those are facts. The Pilot Parking Plan will pay for itself by the end of next weekend. Our insurance company has picked up the 3 current suits the BW and John Jackson et al have filed. Putting 1,000 officers on the street will help the symptom but will not solve the problem. If you live here, and property value matters to you, you should care about having a clean, tourist friendly, low crime town, with an excellent school system. If you don't intend on calling Point Pleasant Beach home for the next ten years, and you don't have small children, I wouldn't care about the downward spiral either.

Greed!...Greed!
The BW owners turn down 1:00am bar closing.
I hope the ABC slams the door on them at 12!
BTW- if Mike Corbally's post at 2:19 on June 27th is true, the BW can not be trusted.
They offer to pay, but don't?
What makes you think they would pay the $800K?

I believe the three law suits are frivolous. We are legally permitted to control our streets and the hours liquor can be served. These cases without our insurance company covering them will be less than the prayer suit.

Does Ms Halvorsen speak for ALL the bars in town?

I thought I read on the town-wide email that a directive was given to the council members not to discuss matters related to the pending lawsuits. Mike C. can you tell me if that excludes you?

Let's put this into reality... Does anyone really think that there will be less problems if Jenks & Martells have to stop serving at 12am? C'mon folks... It's going to cause more problems and not with just crimes. There will be fewer rooms booked in town next year, the average single groups of men and women will be less likely to want to stay in PPB because of the hassle therefore fewer long term rentals, and on the crime side... More DWI issues due to people leaving at 12:01 AM and heading over to Manasquan or Belmar or Seaside and then coming back at three or four in the morning causing all kinds of problems and on top of that creating a more dangerous situation on the road that already exists today. The town Council efforts need to be refocused in the proper direction.

Start fining the 2 bars for fire code violations, overcrowding and serving intoxicated patrons. That should change their tune.

Just saying - how do you know they do this? You are a prime example of those who spread lies and continue this rumors without nowing the truth.

Mr. Corbally, I have some more questions. First, you say you had more special police, how about regular police. I believe past Patch articles said you had significantly less regulars in relation to a large amount of OT going to your Chief. Second, how many more "specials" did you hire in 2011 vs. 2010? Third, have your insurance premiums gone up in the last couple of years and by how much? I cannot believe your insurance carrier is OK with having to pay for all of these legal expenses. They are in the business of making a profit. And frankly, some of your litigation could have and should have been avoided. I realize I am using hindsight but if my business had to pay, either I'd be raising your premiums, trying to encourage you to be less litigious, or dropping your account. It's all about the bottom line, sir.

Vincent Barrella-Improving the Image of the Jersey Shore. This caption is written under a picture our of Mayor in todays Star Ledger in a SLAM DUNK article by Paul Mulshine. Mike C.-just refer all questions to this article, it's tremendous. It debunks all this Patch nonsense from the BW supporters here. Especially the "exaggerated" crime. Mulshine mentions the 2 policemen getting commendations for breaking up a gang fight of 35 rival members of the Bloods and he heard the crime reports from the previous week. He addresses all issues, the BW ties to Trenton, the ABC history of non intervention. Until now. It's all there folks. This one blows the lid off. Enjoy!

Mike. What are you talking about? A problem all agree we have? Crime rate soaring? Where is it you live? Where I live, in D4 in PPB the extra cops seem to be everywhere, they are doing a great job, and I see no soaring crime rate. I see more summons because more cops, but residents are not complaining (except for you and Tooker, and we know what that is about). Even your boy Mr. Happy says we have our neighborhoods back. All it took was increased police presence. If you think PPB is going down the tubes, you can go, we’ll take it from here.

Hi Been Here- Mr. Happy stated we have the streets back because of the Parking Plan. I support the PD of course, but you can't give police all the credit for solving a problem that no longer exists, because it has been eradicated through legislation. Nice try though.

Mulshine is a political bay head hack. Everyone knows he's a Barrella crony. Corbally are you that stupid to think we are going to buy your story about the crime rate. Everyone is on to your game and bragging that your parking plan will be paid for by next week because you are giving everybody tickets is not a good thing. How about concentrating on lowering my taxes with your crony Tooker. Can't wait till 2013 election because your history.

Has anyone seen the gang tape of 35 bloods and crips. It was more like 6 or 7 teenagers 3 of which were girls. This was a huge exaggeration by our illustrious pd. People wanted to view the tape but it was real hush hush . What a joke Corbally and crew have made ppb.

My family owns a summer rental property. The crime rate is going to have severe long term negative effects on the area. The boardwalk bars make money no matter what kind of crowd they attract. The increased crime rate means more security that the town and taxpayers are on the hook for. The bar owners have had it their way for too long. Its time they help shoulder the responsibility for the mess they have helped create. I applaud the mayor and the council and their responsible position!

Legal extortion that's what it is!

He is so arrogant he doesn't care what crony Gertner says

Nonsense Happy. Weekends here in D4 were as quit on the 9th and 10th and 16th and 17th as on the 234 rd and 24th. Nice try though. What is your expression here, oh yea, "your out of your league, son"

How about all you young entitled spoiled brats do something besides come to the Jersey Shore, get drunk and act like idiots... have some respect for once for residents. Point Pleasant should ban alcohol period... let the millionaire business owners pack up and leave...

Bette, why don't you pack up and leave

Mulshine to Barrella equals pelosi to obama

Piecekeeper, that was priceless. Lmfao

Isn't it fascinating what the Mulshine article has brought forth? Not one attempt to refute the substance of the article (except for one that discredits the PD by saying a major riot was really only a small riot). Other than that, it's classic "attack the messenger"- because we can't attack the facts; and the attempts to discredit Mulshine by Patchers here is like graffiti artists trying to discredit Van Gogh. Kinda comical. With that, goodnight whiners at the Beach. Goodnight Mr. Mulshine, wherever you are.

This is Jenkinson's posting regarding the gang incident...It contradicts Lt Dikun's version of events. . .and Barrella's parrot...Paul Mulshine...

Marilou Halvorsen

2:35 pm on Friday, August 19, 2011

...We have reviewed the activities of the entire evening from our surveillance video
and there are certain facts which have been overlooked and need to be clarified.
None of the participants were in any of our facilities at any time, so Jenkinson's
had no hand in serving any alcoholic beverages to any of them. . Video tapes of the incident reveal a total of 12 – 14 individuals congregating in our parking lot at about 4:00 AM. Two individuals appear to be fighting with the remaining individuals watching. Jenkinson’s night time security guards and a Jenkinson’s employee were the only individuals to witness the entire event and they took immediate action by calling the police. Of the three arrested, none were charged with drugs or weapons offenses...

http://pointpleasant.patch.com/articles/brawl-on-jenkinsons-beach-and-boardwalk-leads-to-bloods-gang-members-arrested

I say shut the boardwalk down on every sunday....jenks owns the boardwalk and beach.from the inlet to jenks south.i say the close everything 1 day a week and watch ptpl.go down.who's gonna come to.ptpl nj knowing they can't walk the beaches and have nothing to do on the last day of vacation. Most ppl take fri sat and Sunday off to hit the shore. I say screw ptpl all togeather.

Yes let's close down two of the biggest business in a small tourist town there's a great idea.. Hope nobody minds severely paying for their peace and quiet with there sky rocketing taxes... How is it residents don't see this and could even suggest wanting the bars to close shop. Jenks is the one thing that town has going on. Don't move to a beach tourist town, hint there all like this. I guess we can pass another law allowing only tourist to be over 65 or parents with young children right. One hour isn't gonna change it people will just drink more in that time so what is it really gonna change.

Extortion should not be legitimized. Quality of life is important and somehow the cost of services has to be provided. I don't think threatening the bars in the town and having them bear the entire cost is appropriate.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/2012/06/the_point_pleasant_beach_bar_i.html
Above is the link to the Star Ledger's article....
It is a must read!
Especially the very bottom!

Councilman Corbally has posted that the parking plan will pay for itself by next weekend. Didn't it only go into effect last week (June 22)? Have the police given a report as to how many tickets have been issued in violation of the parking plan? How many of those tickets have been issued to residents of PPB who simply forgot to display a parking pass? I think the tickets are $48, and the plan cost several thousand dollars (signs + passes). That seems like an awfully large number of tickets to have been issued within just 2-3 weeks, plus there's the loss of revenue due to free parking in Silver Lake lot, right? If anyone has information as to how much revenue the parking plan has already generated, please post it. Thanks.

Opinionated, I am personally very happy to see so many police officers back on our streets this summer. I've heard a lot about the number of Specials that were cut by Dyer & Hennessy in 2010, and was therefore really suprised to learn that the number of Specials we had in 2011 was even lower than 2010. At the 7/9/11 Council meeting, Chief O'Hara said that, as of that date, we had 55 Specials. In 2010, we had 65 Specials! That's 10 more Specials in 2010. Chief O'Hara said that in 2011, he requested $365K for Specials, but only got $305K! Corbally was the Finance Committee Chairman in 2011, so I'm sure he must realize that he cut the Specials budget in 2011. Here's the link to the minutes from that July 2011 meeting: http://www.pointpleasantbeach.org/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1243

Maureen J. - How could Councilman Corbally make this statement then...

We had more "Specials" in 2011 than 2010, and more this year than last. Those are facts. . .Mike you care to respond...or your going to YES us again?

Pt Pleasant and it's residents allowed the sale of that land and beach to the bar for a profit, they should have thought of the consequences at that time. If the town can't cover the police need, it falls on all of the taxpayers, not just one of them. Deal with it, it's a mess everyone started...should have kept the Beach a public area to begin with. Greed made the sale, now everyone's crying, boo hoo.

Typical snow job stats by the shady independents. Or just simply a lack of knowledge.

Editor of Patch

Why did you not print my comments yesterday?

It was clean, straight forward, and respectful.

Hi Maureen J-
According to public record there were 122 parking tickets issued. There is no breakdown of resident/non resident. It stands to reason that a fair amount were out of towners that were ticketed because of the JenksClub internet webpage saying no new parking plan is in effect. That ad was up through the weekend. As to residents being ticketed-let's face it, this thing has been more publicized more than a Superbowl and everyone should have known.

Folks, can we refrain from using the "s" word in part or entirety? I had to just delete a few comments. Rick, there were so many comments yesterday that I do not remember what yours said. Can you please email me so we can discuss this privately? denise.distephan@patch.com. Thanks.

Hi Denise- Thanks for removing that tasteless comment by piecekeeper! I'm glad the "Flag as inappropriate" button works.

It is unfortunate that the beach in pt. pleasant was sold to a private owner. I was told that a long time ago it was sold. If it's true, I was told in the 1800 hundreds before the train was implemented. The pt. pleasant government was in doubt the train was going to be implemented, did not for see the crowd coming. Remember a big difference in time from the 1800 hundreds to the current 2012 era. I doubt the residents had much of a say during that era. Most followed the leaders, not fight them. To bad everyone just can't get a long.

Bring the regular police number back to where it was, stop the furlow or your town workers, LISTEN to the people of your town and stop trying to get results by lying, and strong arming your town....try to respect the people that live in point beach...... Maybe if you stood behind your town employees and your police, instead of taking money out of their pockets and threatening to FIRE them every other year....stop blaming The Boardwalk for everything...maybe just maybe if that happened .........

Thank you Maureen J. for this link. Now I see why my last questions to Mr. Corbally went unanswerwed. You sir, have the right to remain silent. To Denise, you have some good material here to write a really great article, don't you? Mr. Corbally's response to me plus this link http://www.pointpleasantbeach.org/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1243 Just do the math and "happy hunting". Mr. Corbally, you may have some explaining to do!!!!!!

In a fairness to the residents who are going to read these links. All links that are related before and after on the same issues or subject should be posted. It is hard to understand or judge if you are only getting a piece meal affect of links.

Well councilman Corbally are you going to answer Maureen or are you going to now lawyer up like Tooker and Barrella have done. You should resign immediately with the other three buffoons.

Opinionated, you can really find some interesting information if you go through those Minutes from last year. Do you know if we've had to hire additional shifts of PEO's (I think that's parking enforcement police officers) as part of the D4 parking program? At the 8/2/11 Council meeting, when they were discussing putting that townwide parking plan question on the November ballot, Chief O'Hara explained that the PEO's usually end their shifts at 1am. To enforce the parking plan discussed at the 8/2/11 meeting (which was from midnight until 8 am at that time), the Chief said that they'd have to hire more PEOs for later night shift. So, again, I wonder whether we had to hire additional shifts of PEOs to enforce the D4 parking plan.

Hi Maureen J- I'm pretty sure that the 122 tickets were from the new ordinance. I don't know when the first one was issued, sorry. Corbally's math is right, this past weekend has almost paid for the cost of implementation, although that was not the intent, but we get peace, with soon to be a profit. Win-win. As to the date of implementation, I really wouldn't rely on the Ocean Star for accurate info. on anything related to the BW. The first editorial they ever wrote was in support of the BW; probably an impartial piece from a paper that relies of local advertising revenue from.......yeah, you got it. You might try the Star Ledger. I hear good things about that paper.

Maureen

Council was controlled by Hennessy, Dyer, Lurie and Rizzo in 2011. Hennessy and Dyer insisted on cutting the 2011 budget for specials, same as he did in 2009 and 2010.

Maureen J.: Patch has been correct and consistent regarding our stories about enforcement of the new District 4 Parking Plan. As I reported previously in 4 stories, including this one, http://patch.com/A-vfdX which was the most recent: warnings began June 15. Enforcement and ticketing began June 22. I had someone cover the June 12 meeting for me, since I was home sick, but apparently it was stated at that meeting, "The plan starts June 15" without adding the nuance of how the first week would be just warnings, with tickets not starting until June 22. That created some confusion.
I will be following up on your other questions and writing a separate parking plan story. Thank you for reading Patch and for your good questions. Also, you and our other readers can always feel free to email me at denise.distephan@patch.com. Thanks.

Happy your spewing bw hatred. It seems in your mind whoever doesn't agree with you is not worth listening to. If you think it's a good thing for point pleasant beach that so many tickets were written then you should not be living here. Do you know that some taxpayers kids are getting tickets because they forgot to put up their placard? Is that fair?

Pennystocks

Who controlled the budget in 2011? Didn't Barrella and Corbally along with Administrator Riehl? Go back and look at the 2011 minutes around budget time and you will find Corbally and Barrella in charge of cutting the specials in 2011.

Since when did everyone start thinking PPB was Ocean City?

Hi judge smells- When my kids ever got a parking ticket, I said 2 words: "Pay it."
Mr. Happy believes in personal responsibilty for all. Especially our kids. That's how they learn.
Also, it's actually Judge Smails. Please make the correction. Thanks.

With all the negative publicity the borough as gotten as a result of these nonsensical ordinances, we might as well have 3 Great White Sharks feeding off the beaches. Either will result in keeping people away from a town that was once regarded as a leading shore community and is now considered one of "whiners" who, for the most part, dislike the tourist industry and anything related to it.

parking tickets...I understand that if you have a placard and received a ticket, the ticket will be dismissed. I have also been told, and I would love to know...if you receive a ticket in the 12-6 no parking district, you are required to go to court. I can imagine the court personel already working their tails off in the summer, will be working overtime to deal with this, along with the police who will go to court for these tickets written....and so it begins...

It is amazing, more new posters every day.

It is interesting that these posters have have such a fervent view and this has been a very hot topic for long time, and THIS is the first time they posted!

Then you even try to call them on it and they go whining to The Patch (that someone is trying to figure their ID when you are just pointing out that they have the same attitude and writing style as another, MMMM!!!)

The real whiners are those Multi patchers that are either employed by, or benefit from their assocaition with ;the BW, or their politicians it in some way?

They look like they have a large groundswell of support, and in reality they are a house of cards!

I remember during the 2010 election that councilman Corbally and mayor Barrella were pounding their chests about the first order of business in 2011 if elected was going to be restoring the hotel motel tax back to its original 3% and fully restoring the specials budget to its 2009 amount of $405,000. What happened to your campaign rhetoric boys?

judge smells- unfortunately there's two threads where bloggers are commenting on here. Did comment about Corbally on another thread. . . But all he can say is "YES" . . .so you'll have to rephrase you question. . .

Pennystocks & everyone else debating the Specials...It was not my intention to create some type of massive finger-pointing debate. In fact, that was my point entirely...the finger-pointing must stop. Since at least 2008, when Barrella became Mayor, the police budget has been a huge part of the game. Honestly, you all keep trying to blame different people for cutting the Specials, but the truth is, the Council only gets to cut the police department budget. It's the Chief of police who then decides where he makes the cuts, either what stuff he doesn't buy, how many people he puts on the street, etc. Not that I'm quibbling with the Chief about his decisions, either. My point is...this mess that we're in is a cumulative problem, and there is plenty of blame to go around. This year, we seem to have been on the right track in fully funding the Specials, plus Emergency Appropriations were made last year (and EVERYONE on that Council voted for those Appropriations) to send the guys to school for this year and to help provide more money for last year's police force during the summer. People make mistakes. I get it. But, really, now we've given the Chief the Specials he asked for and, instead of just seeing how that works out for us, we've added in the parking plan and possible bar closings. It's overkill and it's going to cause a lot of debate as to what really worked.

Once again the question begs an answer. Did you, Mike Corbally, receive a permission slip from the mayor and litigation attorney allowing you to address/comment/reply to matters pending litigation or are you just above authority and choose to do whatever you wish? Either way it could be considered....unethical.

Maureen J- spot on with your last post. I don't know who you are but you have a strong grip of what the real story is.

Hi Full Timer- The third person thing is something that was started early on, just as a writing style. Then some of the bloggers Mr. Happy encountered would become annoyed with always being on the losing end of a debate, so the name spin began.
"Slappy, Dopey, etc." So of course Mr. Happy continued with the third person. Some may wonder: "but Mr. Happy, why do you want to win these debates AND annoy the blogger?" Same reason we all tap on the fish tank to annoy the fish-it's fun.
Hope that answers it.

Why isn't anyone interested in the fact the Boardwalk refused to allow any conditions on their liquor license similar to all the other bars in surrounding towns?

Because we understand what you are too blind to see: we are not Belmar, nor are we Sea Girt. And had you not cut the specials so you could get elected we would not be having this conversation.

D4 does not need restrictions like other towns. Anymore than D4 needs the ridiculous parking plan you lied to us to get passed.

Been here-nuff said. Kudos

Councilman Corbally, if I were the BW, I would refuse to allow you to tie my shoes, never mind consenting to allow you to place conditions on my liquor license. When they offered $40K for Snap, Crackle, Pop, you, personally, accused them of offering a bribe. You wanted them to pay Special Events fees, which they told you that they felt you could not legally do. You sent them a bill, and to date, that bill remains unpaid. Is that because you cannot legally collect it, like the BW told you? Gordon and Mayer sit down to work out a monetary deal to avoid the early bar closings. Gordon says $160K per year might work. BW offers $160K, and then the BW gets told that they have to drop the parking plan lawsuit too. Quite honestly, I can't believe they continued to sit with Council members after you voted in that parking plan, which just shows me how willing they were to work with you to try to avoid an early bar closing that is going to hurt the little guys in town. So, no, not interested in hearing your side of how the BW wouldnt' consent to allow restrictions on their liquor license. You and your bloc members have demonstrated that you cannot be trusted to work with the BW.

Councilman,

Why would anyone be interested in anything that you have to say after what you have done to this town with your cronies Tooker and Barrella. I am so ashamed to say I live in Point Pleasant Beach to anyone because all they do is say the same reply and that is what is wrong with your mayor and council.

We should agree to disagree. I believe the police will treat the symptom, if the BW doesn't help manage their customers better, the illness will spread. They haven't been willing to take any positive steps towards that end.

I agree to disagree. I will enjoy the Lake and hope we all have a great summer.

Mr. Corbally, you never answered my question about the change in the amount of special officers from 2010 to 2011. Is this link inaccurate? http://www.pointpleasantbeach.org/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1243

You told me that you increased them. This says otherwise and that you were present at this meeting. You did state that their work hours were more in a later post but you never replied to us. Is this link incorrect? I'm not looking to "get" anybody but this is definitely making me curious now.

Clown Baby, in response to your posting at 4:42PM, I have been in the borough for over 50 years and my family dates back 4 generations (my daughters being the most current generation) to the 1920s, so what would give you any speculation that I bought 15 -20 years ago and am mad about the tourists? I live in D4 a block from the boardwalk and I am AGAINST the 12AM and Parking ordinances. My concern is about the borough's future NOT my personal property value.

Mike C.- you might be better off putting a PSA in the Ocean Star and AP Press articulating the Council positions behind these issues. You would reach alot of fair minded folks who would then realize the truth. The Mulshine article did this in a very broad sense. A local response would be very effective too.
Good luck with the ABC decision tomorrow. Hopefully the Mulshine article has shone such a bright light on the issue that politics and influence are negated and the rule of law prevails.

Do you sit at the Entrance of the bw bars and watch whom enters? I bet most of the people you deem suspect do not patronize these bars . Also where is the personal responsibilty? It is not the boardwalk bars' fault that these "undesirables" are vacationing here. Point beach is accessible by train, and with the bad economy and recession has become a quick more affordable day trip destination. If you want to get rid of the rif raff u will need to take that up w nj transit.....

Councilman Corbally, I find your positions somewhat contradictory. With regard to the parking plan, you have taken the position that the warnings worked, in that, according to you, once the plan was actually being enforced and tickets given, there were fewer residents who received tickets (the warnings they got previously changed behavior so that they put up their passes in the future). However, you say that the police only treat the symptom, but the illness will spread without some type of action on the boardwalk. Why is it that the police, giving tickets to disorderly persons, isn't effective in changing behavior just like the parking warnings were effective in changing behavior? Also, you say that you noticed the rowdy behavior leaving the nightclubs. Is that type of behavior, that you saw, illegal when it takes place on the BW? I've heard you state, publicly, how the police create a presence at closing time on the BW. Didn't the police take action and ticket those people who were breaking the law when they exited the nightclubs? As for the BW owners, the bartenders are not supposed to serve visibily intoxicated patrons. If you saw that happening, did you call the ABC so that they could enforce the law? Let's keep in mind that it is not illegal to be drunk. It's only illegal to drink and drive or to be drunk and create some type of disorder. Are you expecting the BW owners to detain people who are drunk &, if so, under what legal authority?

Hi Mike, In reply to your comment, of course property values of a community are related to its future, as well as economic conditions, interest rates and other factors. You are in the business so I am not telling you anything you don't know. My reply was that my concerns are for the overall future of the borough and not my own property values. Selfish agendas won't resolve this and, as I mentioned previously, although I disagree with you, I respect your intents in doing what you believe is correct. BTW, I spoke to Mike D. today. I still miss the days when I would run into Dan, Tim, you and he at Jenks, all enjoying yourselves. Keep cool this weekend, be it in the A/C or the ocean.

Councilman Corbally, you're observations of people leaving the bars, just like your meetings with the BW owners, happened last year. What constructive moves or what have you seen this year?

Hi Nick and PPNB- I don't know if Mulshine is an attorney. I do know he is a nationally renowned columnist writing for NJ's #1 newspaper. I would imagine everyone in Trenton reads the Ledger and consequently his writings and they all now know what has occurred here. His last column, among other things, pretty much married the BW with Trenton and he pointed out the ABC policy of not interfering with a town's legal right to set hours-until this case. Facts both, which should at the very least level the playing field. I think we have all had enough of the Soprano State image. This is a golden opportunity to change that.

Here's a little ditty for Mr. Happy and Friends:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU&feature=relmfu

Here's a little song I wrote...you might want to sing it note for note..."Don't Worry, Be Happy"...In every life we have some trouble...when you worry you make it double......"Don't Worry, Be Happy" now...Cause when you worry your face will frown and that will bring everybody down...Put a little smile on your face and don't bring everybody down...it will soon pass whatever it is....

Enjoy the Weekend! Go to Martells...sing and dance with Dr. Chico...party til 2am all weekend/all summer...I'm not worried...I'm Happy!

Imposters Abound has decided that we need some fun, light-hearted entertainment here on Patch. I'm happy to provide the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=39YUXIKrOFk

Happy Summer 2012 !!! Live and let live !!!

Mr. Happy, all I can say is "Tsk. Tsk. Tsk." You'd like the ABC to be influenced by an editorial written in a newspaper when it renders its decisions of law, and an editorial written by someone who isn't even a lawyer? And, you're using the Star Ledger as your newspaper of choice? Well, if that's how decisions of law are made in this State, we've got lots of problems, don't we? I find your reference to the Sopranos very humorous. In case you haven't noticed, I think that Barrella is also of Italian heritage, and I find his tactics to be very similar to some of the characters in that show, as well. I'm very disappointed in you, Mr. Happy. I didn't perceive you as being one of those conspiracy theorists. Here's an idea...go into your kitchen, pull out the aluminum foil, and fold yourself up a nice hat, and put it on. That hat will protect you from your worries.

I just received the latest edition of the Cathy Kelly e-mail chain. It appears to be e-mails sent by the BW's attorney to Gertner, the PPB Boro Attorney. What's particularly interesting is it says " I just re-reviewed your e-mail below", sent from the BW attorney to Gertner, and yet, when you scroll down, there is no e-mail from Gertner below. Instead, there's another e-mail from the BW attorney. Now, why would anyone forward this information to the Cathy Kelly chain and not at least forward Gertner's e-mail, too? And, I love this part....at the bottom of the BW attorney's e-mail it says: "This email message from the law firm of Stone Mandia, LLC is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message." Did the BW's attorney send this e-mail directly to Ms. Kelly, or did she decide to ignore the warning and foward it out anyway? Sounds like we have more litigation issues coming our way.

the more you post,the more your intelligence shines through,haha

Keep the stupid parking plan and make the silver lake lot free from 10p-6a so all the drunks walk the boards to silver lake instead of walking the back streets. Boom problem solved. People will get the hint not to park in the streets after getting tickets for a month. Council this is not brain surgery!!!! Ya fools

Hey Born and Bred Locals: Remember when the Point Beach Wrestling Team held AC/DC "Hells Bells" as their opening mat theme song? Relax ---- Enjoy the Weekend and the 2 am bar closings ---- Go Hells Bells :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLvZ_UHGiZ8

Last post for the evening folks:

The SummerWind, Frank Sinatra ---- It's all part of the Jersey Shore culture ---- Get used to it ---- Welcome Bennies, you're welcome to stay, you're the lifeline to our local economy....MTV Jersey Shore wannabees --- please continue travelling south to SSH. PPB is NOT open for your type of business.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9wNfAheqnA

Oh forgive me...I just had to post one more vignette to close the evening:

Imagine, by John Lennon ---- Imagine if there were no BW haters and there were no PPB racists ---- Imagine all the people...livin' for today...Imagine all the people livin' life in peace....You might say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one...I hope some day you'll join us.. and the world will be as one......Imagine all the people...just sharin' the world as one....You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one...I hope some day you'll join us... and the world will live as one....

PEOPLE of all shapes, sizes, and COLOR should be WELCOME to visit PPB, so long as they're well-behaved and respect our laws and our residents' property.

Sing, Dance, Pray...Enjoy the Music...I'll be there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=W-apaIOOoAo

my prediction 2am closing and we will vote on it in November . it's a town issue and the whole town will vote on it. it impacts the whole town not just district four.

not a leg to stand on. as a business owner in town ANY business being impacted like this is bad business. especially 2 business's that contribute to a lot of employment / tax dollars / and draws people to this own where these peopl spend $$$ at a lot of business's. pizza places / ice cream ahops / hair salons / you don't think this bad press would effect down towns business volume? let me tell you first hand. I personally will be personally walking business to business and ask each owner " do you want someone telling you when you have to close or where people can park or how much you can charge" the "PEOPLE" will speak. that you can bet on

Nick Carraway - here's an interesting thought. After reviewing "the chain " you can see ck omitted the Gertner portion but also interesting is that before she forwarded to her entire list she deleted who forwarded all of this legal and private information to her. It can only be one of two answers: Gertner himself or a member of the governing body. Hmmm. Interesting

The Supreme Court has affirmed the right of gov't to create legislation in upholding Obamacare. Hopefully, the ABC will follow suit and affirm the right of local gov't to create legislation. We should all be happy with the first statement and hope for the second. After all, it's the American way, is it not? Enjoy the weekend. God Bless America!!

Ms. Kelly, I am not threatening you with litigation. I have better things to do with my money, like pay my mortgage and utility bills. I also have no idea what you look like. Maybe you should circulate a photo of yourself through that e-mail chain or have Ms. DiStephan post one? What I can't believe, though, is how someone who says that she cares so much about the town, about the residents, and has expressed unhappiness about the way this whole situation has gone would be so irresponsible as to forward an e-mail like that. Why would you, Ms. Kelly, do anything, personally, to interfere, one way or another, with the litigation that is going on? Did it ever even cross your mind to say "Hmmmm...maybe I shouldn't send this out. Maybe I will be causing more trouble"? But, even if you didn't think it was a problem, didn't you read that e-mail and say "Hmmm, where's Gertner's e-mail? Should I really send this out without Gertner's e-mail? Is it right for me to only show one side?" What I think would be really interesting is if, as a result of your sending this e-mail, that Town had to sue you, for forwarding a confidential e-mail that's part of the litigation. See, I think that could happen, especially if what you did ends up hurting the town's position by showing that they act in bad faith. After all, we know it had to be one of the Barrella bloc members that sent you that e-mail. Gertner wouldn't do it. It would cost him his license.

Do you honestly think this bad behavior will stop at midnight? There is no logic behind this law. Its stupid. Period.

Full Timer: So you posted a number of allegations about what an individual might be thinking and might do in the future, admitting that they are "unsubstantiated." If they are unsubstantiated, do not post them! That goes for all leaving comments.

Denise, have you read how many of the postings on here are exaggerated and unsubstantiated? I, at least acknowledged that fact and turned to Mike Corbally for some verification. Incidentally, the "source of the rumor comes from The Star Ledger at nj.com where the following post was made to Paul Munshine on June 27th, and I quote "Paul, the town should be ready for a fight worth having. There is no way the ABC can order PPB to allow the bars to remain open until 2 a.m. If I truly wanted to keep the bars closed, I would simply ignore the ABC under such circumstances and send my officers in to close or arrest the bar personnel after 12 midnight." please feel free to verify. Evidently the Star Ledger may also have its share of "unsubstantiated" material. I do respect your desire to maintain the integrity of the "Patch". Thanks.

Anyone hear about the ABC's ruling?

I would IMAGINE that the BW found out the desicion was not going their way and are now negotiating hard!

sorry for the typo!

You know it is funny that the councilman states something about the BW clientele base. Then the BW patchers throw down the race card???

I don't find racism funny. Read the Councilman's comments---he says all you have to do is walk the boards and look at the people---that, my friend, is the type of stereotyping on appearance which we call "racial profiling"

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