Acropolis Cuts His Salary to $1; Council Members Trade Barbs Over Pay
Tense moments after mayor calls on council to cut salaries
Brick Mayor Stephen C. Acropolis will voluntarily cut his salary to $1 per year for the remainder of his term, he announced at the end of Tuesday night's township council meeting.
Acropolis currently earns $52,000 in his post as the full-time mayor of Brick, but has taken criticism for also maintaining another full-time job as Toms River MUA commissioner from which he earns $92,000.
"The people have spoken loud and clear," Acropolis said, referencing the recent township council election, where incumbent Republicans were swept out of office by Democratic newcomers."If we as elected officials don't heed what the people say, then shame on us."
Democrats, during the campaign, had threatened to reduce Acropolis' salary to $15,000 per year if he did not give up his Toms River job.
"I am going to lead by example and give the taxpayers the best bang for their buck," Acropolis said, before urging council members to cut their salaries in half from $8,000 to $4,000.
Acropolis said he initially proposed cutting his own salary as well as council salaries at a meeting of the council's Business and Finance Committee in May, but the committee never brought it to the full council for a vote.
Acropolis' call for council members to reduce their salaries led Councilman Michael Thulen – who lost a re-election bid and will leave the council Jan. 1, 2012 – to propose an ordinance be passed before the new year that would make the reduction. Thulen's call was met with disagreement and some outright hostility by some of the remaining council members.
"We don't need anyone telling us what to do, especially people going out the door," said Councilman Joseph Sangiovanni, who will remain on the council next year.
"I don't think it's the right thing to do, to start changing things right now before this new council gets seated," Sangiovanni said.
"I heard what the voters said. I heard it loud and clear," said Councilman Domenick Brando, who will also remain on the governing body next year, directing his comments at Thulen. "You've worked at the MUA, I believe you've also had family members working in town. It's nice that on the way out you're proposing this. I know what the taxpayers said, and I'm going to do the best that I can to fix it."
Councilman Dan Toth, the third Republican who will remain on the governing body in 2012, did not address the issue directly.
But Council President Brian DeLuca got in a final jab before the meeting ended.
"It's a shame that some people come to some type of an epiphany after an election, when it's clear in your face all year long," said DeLuca, hinting that he supported reducing council salaries in the past year but did not push the issue because he is a "team player."
DeLuca, who earned a $9,000 total stipend for serving as council president, gave up his salary after landing a job at the Lakewood motor vehicle office earlier this year.
But regardless of whether the remaining Republicans and incoming Democrats take Acropolis' suggestion and lower their salaries, the mayor had a message for his fellow GOP officials: get back to the basics.
"Our government needs to get smaller, and we have to get back to our Republican principles, principles which may have gotten lost this past year," he said.
B.........
6:16 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Well mayor, does that mean that you will pay back the salary you have received since you took on the second job???? Whats that, didn't think so.You are delusional if you think the first time criticism of you salary was apparent after the election. The taxpayers have been saying it since WE started paying it.
John McGarty
6:23 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
"Our government needs to get smaller, and we have to get back to our Republican principals, principals which may have gotten lost this past year," he (Acropolis) said.
May have??? Seriously??
24% increase in 2 years & we "may have" lost our way. A dollar a year is still more than he's worth.
g
11:11 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
REPUBLICAN values...you must be kidding. A day or two after the R leader (Gov Christie) said politicians shouldn't hold multiple public jobs, Mr. Acropolis announced he was taking a $100K "appointment" to the MUA. He is no "Republican"...defying his own governor!
KMC
7:17 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
So that means if the republicans won it would have business as usual?? What arrogance!! I can't wait till we vote the rest out. Oh and I wonder if the remaining council members have relatives employed in town on the Brick voters back.
lisad
7:25 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
this mayor isn't worth a buck
bricklakeriv
7:32 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
What? The mayor woke up! But what he, the Mayor fails to realize is the door out is next. Also, looks like a huge rift among his backers on the council. Stay alert newly elected council,
BytheC42
7:51 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Does he think we are all stupid and do not see this as a re-election ploy? @KMC...you're right. It would have been business as usual had the republicans won. I surely don't have stupid written across my forehead. Too little too late.
Concerned Independant
1:48 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
Even if it is a re-election ploy, he's not alone, Democrats are known for that also. It's called politics. I don't like it but we have to understand that's what they do. For whatever reason or motive the Mayor is making these changes, they are good changes for now. We will see as time goes by what else he may do to help our town.
BW
8:09 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
He who speaks with forked tongue, STeve, the damage is done. You want smaller gov't and lower taxes? First, sell foodtown and Traders Cove, that would lower our debt tremendiously. Second, fire Juan and all your other friends and family who have had job titles created just for them. And finally, NO salary or benefits for council members, MUA board members, and every other person you have snuck in.
I know
8:11 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Come on Mr DeLuca, you know the governor forced you to give up your council salary in order to be appointed to the DMV job. Don't you get it? You guys lost because of the deception and lies.
Concerned Independant
2:02 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
Democrats deceive and lie also. It's not just one party, and you cannot convince me both parties have not been guilty of that in the not too distant past and will continue to be guilty of that. It's how they get their perks and way as elected officials. The newly appointed democrats will be no different. So save your breath trashing just the Republicans, at least include the Dems and Independants with it.
Mickey
8:12 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
just can't make this stuff up...DeLuca didn't speak up, because he was a "team player". makes you wonder how many more situations arouse that he didn't do what's best for Brick, to be a "team player" ? they took & took and now with 40 days left in their terms, they've "seen the light" the remaining 3 need to go, but I'd prefer seeing them replaced with Republicans, so what happened with a full council of one party, doesn't ever happen again.
Lori Morrison
8:17 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
To the current Council members- If you truly care about the residents of Brick, make the changes now while you have full control. Pass the ordinance to reduce the Mayor salary to $15,000 and the Council salary to $4,000. Pass an ordinance eliminating health benefits for ALL elected and appointed positions in Brick. The opposition coming from Sangiovanni and Brando is a joke! One of them works for Brick Transportation with a good salary, benefits and pension, and the other is working at the BTMUA and receiving disability retirement benefits from his former job in law enforcement. Take the high road, do this now and in 2 years this will be something you can use for your re-election campaign that you can be proud of and not have to resort to negative campaigning. Respect is earned.
lisad
10:50 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
is it Brando getting "disability" benefits. geez, the guy had a bulkhead company a couple years ago. I don't know what his disability is but i am so sick of people finding ways to end up on disability.
DeepSigh
8:23 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I expect change from that $1
localexpert
8:24 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Two people that should be on the bus and out of Brick 1. Brian the TEAM player,it was alright when you got the D.M.V. job no experience in that field but the powers to be took care of you,TEAM PLAYER...2. MR.Mayor it is overyou live in Brick but kept your job in Toms River,SEE YA........
clamdigger
8:45 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Too little too late Mr.Mayor, I can't even say nice try.
knarfie
8:47 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Suddenly Acropolis "sees the light". The "team" is at each other's throats. I love it. What happened to all the good natured banter, with Scaturro giggling at everything when they thought they were all in charge. It's too late people. The horse is out of the barn. Just more BS from a bunch of losers who see the handwriting on the wall. Don't fall for it , Brick voters. Get them all OUT.
Zerosignal
8:53 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
How about the cops reduce there salaries.. There a big part of the cost to this town. These clowns earning $90,000 plus.
36anonanon
11:08 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Add OT, and awesome health benefits and bam they hit the lotto!
mrpipp
11:51 am on Friday, November 25, 2011
I don't think it is necessary to call the police in our town "clowns"..... the direction that this town is headed, we need these officers more than ever!
Art Sholty
9:03 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
The hidden reason that Dan Toth kept silent was because he allegedly will jump ranks and become a Democrat or even Independent soon, to start his campaign for mayor. He definately is not a TEAM PLAYER but has plenty of BULLETS lined up for his selected few in the voting booth. This person's playing voters for their vote, nothing else. Ever wonder why he abstains on the council vote so often? Think about it. Check out his so called business and his other job as an agent for a local realty company, with regards to the old Foodtown property. His allegance is to himself and his ego. Brick is just a stepping stone for this faker. Listen to his words because everything he says is self promoting double-talk. Dan is for Dan, not Brick. He has improved the BULLET VOTE for his own party, no yours, not mine but his. He must be silenced and voted out next time he runs.
BW
9:15 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Art, the same can be said about your idol, Steve. I do not believe a word of what you said. I have talked to Dan, and he is just the opposite of what you are saying.
Art maybe it is time to sit down and talk to someone about your obvious hatred and bitterness, toward those who do not bow and kiss Steve's butt when he commands it. It is also VERY obvious, that STeve is the CAUSE of the bitterness and hatred in town hall.
bths06
9:19 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Dan will get my vote, especially now that he has pinched your nerve. I love how you take one sentence about Dan Toth and make a whole big thing about it but don't even comment on the main part of the article which is about the mayor and the out going council bickering...keep drinking that kool-aid Art!
Mickey
9:36 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
interesting, you've sang the praises of this administration for years and now you're seeing the light too ? from the results of the last election, you seem to be out of touch with the residents of Brick. your 15 minutes are up !
Dennis
9:42 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Dan Toth is part of the problem too and must go.. When the shady deals were going on, he could havv went to the press to expose if no one was listening in council. being silent is as bad or worse than being in agreement
Dan Toth
10:01 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Mr. Sholty, I am sorry you feel this way. My reason for keeping relatively silent last night had to do with my belief that a "lame duck" session of any legislative body should not be crafting substantive legislation regardless of its potential benefits or detriments. Since there is a new majority entering into our local legislative branch of government on January 1st, this is especially true.
Now, as for "Ever wonder why he abstains on the council vote so often"... it is simple. I own an alcoholic beverage wholesale and warehousing company that deals with over 900 accounts throughout NJ/NY. Because it is a heavily regulated industry with astronomical costs of doing business, the playing field is somewhat limited, so pertaining to any licensing issues I choose to abstain on these matters as to not even give a perception of an undue advantage in the industry. Think of it this way... if I have to vote to approve a liquor license for one of my customers, it could possibly be used to "pursuade" them to purchase more product from my company... you get the picture... I won't have anything to do with it.
Now, as for "his other job as an agent for a local realty company", I hold a real estate salesperson's license that is registered with EXIT - All Around Realty (my step-mom and my dad, and other family). I predominately use this license for personal investment properties and helping friends and neighbors find homes and sell homes. My abstentions on real estate matters...
Dan Toth
10:06 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
... is because my father has been in contact with the potential developer of the FoodTown site in town in assisting with finding tenants. As a result, I do not speak with my father about this issue, nor do I vote on anything having to do with Mr. Morris or any of his companies. To further this, I had even sought a legal opinion from the NJ State DCA's Ethics Board regarding what position I should take... they agreed that I should simply abstain and/or recuse myself from matters involving these entities.
Now, my other recurring abstentions are: Meridian Health Systems - My wife is a trauma nurse with them, so naturally I abstain on said items. The other is Saker Shop-Rites, as they own several Shop-Rite Liquor stores that have been long-time customers of my company, so naturally I abstain on those items as well.
I hope this helps with your understanding of where I come from. I have explained these matters publicly before, and I have no problem discussing them with anyone who wishes to hear them again.
I wish you and your family a Happy and Healthy Thanksgiving!
Dan Toth
Joseph Woolston Brick
10:33 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Get with the program Art. The days of being a Republican or a Democrat are coming to a close. People are fed up with both parties. There are now more registered Independents than there are for the parties. It's time to look at the person and not the party and vote accordingly. It's time to tell these people forget your party, their party bosses and listen to the people of Brick or end up like the four Republicans that just got booted out the door. Those that are still on the council and the new people better be listening to us as well. They should forget their party rhetoric and listen to what the populace of Brick is saying or we will show them the door as well. I find it hysterical that all of a sudden they have seen the light because of the last election. I know they read The Patch and other Forums, they read what people were talking about and what people wanted done and they ignored everyone. We told them we were firing them and they poo pooed it. You see it's not about the salaries, it's about the power and I think they just learned we gave them the power and we can take it away! As for Dan Toth, I will give him the benefit of a doubt and will be watching him carefully he may just have a chance a slim one at that, to stay in town hall. The others including the mayor, the damage has been done, they should start packing now. Actually to hear the rubber stamps talk out against the mayor is funny, but too little too late.
Dennis
11:22 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Dan Toth, you explained what you can't do. then what can you do? Why dont you just resign since you are useless to the public that voted you in?
Concerned Brick Citizen
12:45 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Just my opinion: I don't see Dan leaving the Republican Party due to a long time association with a family who seem to hold solid republican values and remain actively involved with the party. It is at his step-mom’s office and property where you will see all the republican election signs. If memory serves me correctly she was also once President of Town Council. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
PS: Dan you know my house is on the market and at a great value. Please feel free to review the property and help us sell.
Denny D
1:20 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I have known Dan Toth since he was 14 years old. I do not know what your total disdain for him is based on but most of the people who know him like him.
Chesty Puller
11:05 am on Friday, December 23, 2011
Ya know Art, Dan was the only member of the Council who had the courage to tell the Mayor it was one job or the other. The other's to my diappointment just went along.
Dennis
9:15 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Stevie looks like he's trying to rearrange the deck chairs on The Titanic. Forget it Stevie. You and The Clowns will be all gone by the next election. Too late to try
knarfie
9:15 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Finally I agree with you. But they all must go.
Robert
9:19 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Hey not to take the heat of the Mayor , but how bout the our Freeholder Lacey? He is out Freeholder at 30k and is the Brick MUA Director at 135k. He seems to fly under the radar , unreal as it is. On the dollar salary, good idea, problem is who would want this job for a dollar, 15k, going forward. Its a lose , lose for anyone wanting to be Mayor going forward. I say, give him a dollar for the next two years, why not!
G. Wagner
1:44 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
I agree with your concerns about our "MUA Executive Director" Robert. I might be incorrect on this, but doesn't that position fall under the auspices of the MUA Board? That said, I also believe that the Republican controlled Board created the cushy position for Mr. Lacey....I've opposed the creation of that position since the beginning (for what that is worth) and would love to see a groundswell of support for Lacey's removal and for the abolishment of the position.
Mac
3:10 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
How about we have a groundswell of support for the removal of the position and the abolishment of Lacey? Unfortunately, the only groundswell you'll ever see in Ocean County is the centuries old tradition of rushing to the polls every November and voting to Give THEM More, Give THEM MORE almost every time. When voters keep reelecting the same individuals and the same political group without concern, the voters are satisfied that the elected representatives truly reflect who they are, and that the elected officials speak and act as they would. Otherwise, the voters would elect candidates that were more like them. That's a fact. Lacey's fluff jobs, and hundreds of other overpaid politically connected 'positions' that are too often held by non-qualified or under-qualified individuals are only going to grow. Just ask the voters. However, I admire your spirit.
John C
3:15 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
No the Executive Director Position was not created for the current Executive Director there has always been an E.D. And the position is not part of the Board of Commissioners. Each department has a department head or Director and the Directors all report to the Executive Director just like in any typical business, and the Commissioners have oversite over their actions.
John C
3:20 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
G Wagner, then who will run the Authority? There has to be someone in charge.
Mac
3:22 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
And just think: All those positions, that cost us millions annually, could be replaced with one good executive secretary. Plus, it would be nice to have someone involved that had a clue what was going on without having to be told. Priceless.
G. Wagner
12:48 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
I stand corrected on the development of the MUA Executive director position- I should have researched it further but I seem to recall MUA Board Chairmen performing much of the day to day operation... Apparently, I am mistaken. That said, I still believe that Lacey's appointment to the $135,000 per year position is an act of political patronage. Heck, Toms River pays Mr. Acropolis substantially less than that amount.
morrissey
10:07 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
so the Republicons are in a circle and shooting .....well that is the best thing we could ever have hoped for........now if we can just figure out how to get them out of every undeserved job they were given in the past 3 years , the slaughter will have been complete
knarfie
10:48 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
How do we get Matthews out of his cushy job for which he is not qualified?
Vince Latchford
10:44 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Re; Mayor/Council salaries. Back in the dark ages, the salaries were modest. Dan Newman was elected Mayor and he considered the job full-time and got his salary greatly increased. When he was voted out, largely due to some illegal campaign tactics by an opponent, he reduced the Mayor's salary on his way out. Mayor Scarpelli raised it again, Mayor Acropolis went along until it became politically damaging, then personally reduced the amount that he would accept. So the rule seems to be take all you can get away with and when it endangers your position loudly announce that you're looking out for the citizens and reduce it. PAU. (Politics As Usual).
This is how I recall the sequence. If there's a Brick historian out there who finds an error in my recall, let's hear it. The important thing is that the voters understand how it works.
Joseph Woolston Brick
11:10 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
How about this, that a referendum is put out there so that the people of Brick can decided if they want the Mayors position to be full or part time and to vote on a salary, why are they themselves allowed to do this? It's like putting the wolf in charge of the hen house. Hell I would love it if I could increase my own salary and give myself better hours but I live in the real world.
Mark Good
12:16 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Tell it like it is Vince too many people forget their history about all the things that went on in town, we should write a book i have a lot of pages to contribute.
AJ
12:51 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Vince,When Dan Newman and Joe Scarpelli were mayors they either in the town hall all day or at various store openings,womens club meetings etc.They deserved the full-time money because they were full-time mayors.They both had other jobs but put them after there mayoral position.
John C
7:22 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Joseph Woolston, there was no vote to make the Mayors position full time, the Democrat controlled council voted to raise the Mayors salary to $50,000+ from around $12,000 because the Dem Mayor at the time worked "full time" ......as he was working 2 other jobs on the side.
g
11:06 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Cutting Mr. A's salary is "grandstanding" The next mayor will revisit the issue and what Mr. A is doing only confuses the value of the job.
The real issue is Mr. A's shameful taking of the CRONY job in Toms River...thats the job he should quit and allow all people of NJ apply for the job by showing qualifications, not just "Friends in high places."
califwino
11:10 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
"Team player" Deluca ?.....your "team" is the citizens of Brick who put you in office to represent them not your team of cronies who have been ripping off the citizens of Brick. See what happened to you for being on the wrong "team".
As for Dan, he may be a nice guy but seems to be out of touch and no guts. He is not aware of whats going on in the council and relies on the Patch for info. Only has made one not to popular ordinance(bamboo) and bows out of voting for most things because of conflict of interest.....why bother if you're not going to do anything?
Daniel Nee
11:27 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
As a point of levity in this whole thing, I can't believe the bamboo ordinance story from months ago still gets mentioned around here ;) On a serious note: Having covered many towns in our area, it is my understanding that almost all of them have this ordinance. I also once did a story on what out-of-control bamboo can do. There was a gentleman in Manasquan whose neighbor's improperly planted bamboo plants ruined his backyard pool to the point where he had thousands of dollars in recurring damages every year, leading to lawsuits, etc. Saw it with my own eyes. My point: those types of ordinances aren't unusual, and perhaps I should have explained that in the story from back then. If bamboo plants from next door were making mincemeat out of your pool, patio or home foundation, you'd want some recourse.
Joseph Woolston Brick
11:57 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Dan Nee, you must understand there are those of us in town that know the real story about the bamboo ordinance and how it became one. It was purely a favor to a friend/family person. That's why it's such a touchy subject for a lot of us. In the past few years there have been exactly five complaints filed with the township over a period of years about bamboo, this with a town of 70,000+ and only five complaints? Yet an ordinance was passed, you figure it out! The way the ordinance is worded and the liens against the homeowners and all the other threats you would think that bamboo was taking over the township and it's not. Plus the fact that there are so many more pressing issues in town. Reading the ordinance you would think that Kudzu was out of control in Brick, the fact is, Kudzu will only survive in NJ under certain conditions, one bad winter and it's gone! That's why it grows in the South and not here, but yet it's in the ordinance. Really? The people of Brick want the people they have hired in township hall to buckle down and fix the real problems that this town has, not some bullcrap that makes it look like they are doing something for their pay. That's why people are so upset with the ordinance and continue to mention it. It was purely a favor and political jerk work.
Mickey
11:16 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Dan, I believe you're in damage control mode. you still haven't given an explanation why you never spoke up about raises, layoff's, jobs given out or all the goings on in our town that you claim to have found out only thru the Patch .... just to name a few. if you need to obstain from so many circumstances in town due to your outside dealings....maybe you're not the guy the taxpayers need.
Art Sholty
11:07 am on Friday, November 25, 2011
Mickey on Bullet Dan,
You hit the Bulls eye Mickey, Just the mere fact that I published the fact that he condones bullet voting makes him suspect of not being a TEAM PLAYER nor being above board on issues that hurt Brick and us taxpayers. He knew about the patronage jobs all along because he is a councilman and votes on these subjects, especially the $$$$$ handed out. Abstentions are his favorite way of BSing the public and The Bullet Man uses them as a tool in his favor. If voters are not aware of his actions, they think he is looking out for them, "wha'tta nice guy," and he gets their vote, that's how he plays politics here in Brick. He also says that he abstained over a vote to sell township property to his mother-in-law who he also works for as a realty agent but this is not true. He should never have listened to the start of this vote because of being an agent in the first place. The property was located next to another piece she owned and was for sale. Making it larger will make it more profitable to sell and it was sold for a very small price. That's Dan for you. He also mentioned in a previous blog that he never speaks to his father, who also works for the same realtor, about the property in mention. Believe that and I HAVE A BRIDGE TO SELL TO YOU. Nice going Mickey. Whether anybody believes me or not, I could care less. My first and only duty is to expose bad government and all the "cat calls" are meaningless. I truly love Brick and want to see our township prosper.
saultydog
10:10 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Mickey I agree with you something not right about Danny Boy he does abstain a lot maybe he shouldn’t sit on council, if he has so many interest that could conflict with his swarm duties as councilman he should resign! And as for Art’s comments Danny Boy is a just another shady side stepping politician and must go! Oh Danny Boy the door the door is calling you!
Bricktuckian
11:26 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Too little too late.......... Good Riddance
morrissey
11:51 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
hey Dan Toth, what "team" are you playing for....or do we only find that out when you lose your election ?
John C
11:57 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Wow such hatred and bitterness hiddin behind screen names, lets see if you will post this stuff about the new council majority, because if you think that they won't appoint their own supporters to local positions you are wrong. I really did not see any platform from them other than opposing everything the current council was doing. so if you do support any of what is going on in town I sugguest you get involved for real instead of just commenting on the internet. One final point there is no registration as Independant and there is no Independant Party. You are on the County roles as Republican Democrat or Undeclared.
Mickey
12:14 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I'm surpirsed you find it difficult to understand the contempt so many posters have for this group ? while we all can understand surrounding ourselves with people that share the same views....I think most object to placing people in positions where their only qualification is being in the same political party. but then I think you already know that. I'm sure most on here will be calling them out if they haven't learned from the past sins of others. time will tell.
knarfie
12:23 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
John C
I suspect you were on the losing team. Does not make you a bad person, but as they say, "timing is everything" Am I correct?
Joseph Woolston Brick
12:23 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Undeclared is just another term for Independent! John C, you better believe the people of this town are going to be watching the newbies like a hawk. After having one of the worst administrations this township has ever had in power, you better believe the populace is not going to put up with any more shenanigans or out come the recall petitions! The people of this town be they Democrats, Republicans or Independents have had it! Do you realize how many registered Republicans jumped ship this last vote? I myself being an Undeclared voted for Mayor Acropolis and the rest of his team something I lived to regret just a few months down the road with the Ice Palace debacle, it all went downhill from there. If my posts get a little angry you now understand why.
KC
12:59 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Thank you for clearing that up about there being no Independent Party. Some other poster mis spoke regarding this. I have always thought it wrong to not be able to declare yourself as an Independent. I am an independent but a registered Republican.I cannot vote is some primaries unless I declare myself a democrat.
knarfie
11:58 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
toth tries to come across as Mr. Nice Guy with his heartwarming stories at the end of the council meeting, and maybe he is not a bad person, but he is a member of Ali Baba and the over the hill gang., tied to Cartine and the whole bunch we should be sick of by now, and he has to go also.
Mark Good
11:59 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Nothing like closing the barn door after all the "ANIMALS" left.
QUESTION:What goes up and never comes down? Besides a political pay check.
Dan Toth
12:01 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
As always, if anyone would like to speak about any particular issue, please either email me at CouncilmanDan@comcast.net or call me at 732-458-3788. I will be more than happy to discuss any issue at all.
Art Sholty
2:40 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Hey Bullet Dan, remember a few years ago after I helped you get elected. I then said to you with all the council listening, "if you screw up, I will come after you in the papers," well you screwed up by not remembering your people who voted for you, you turned your back on those who helped by evading them in your presence. Your "BULLET SCHEME" is now out for all to see and your abstentions stink because they can be rigged to win a certain vote all the while voters think you were helping by being honest................you failed. Now get out and don't let the door hit you in your pocketbook.
Art Sholty
Red
10:47 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
"If you screw up, I will come after you in the papers"...and on the internet apparently.
psssssst Art a little secret - the people of Brick voted for him, not just you and your political party
Sam Foster
12:23 am on Friday, November 25, 2011
Mr. Toth:
Thank you for posting your contact info. I had emailed the town council's email address regarding some issues I had in town, but did not receive an answer back. I tried speaking to the Township attorney before the last council meeting of 11/22/11, but what she told me is totally unacceptable. I will be emailing you about the problems so hopefully something can be done. I would like to bring some legal documents that I have and meet with you before the next council meeting to discuss this with you in detail to see what next steps should be taken, both by me and the Township.
I hope that you and everyone else had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Sam Foster
Mark Story Jenks
1:55 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Hello Dan, Who is this wack job, Art Sholty? He must think he is very important, claiming he "helped you get elected". Then, in the same paragraph he makes a statement "if you screw up, I will come after you in the papers."
Why does he have such a grudge against you? On second thought, who cares.
knarfie
12:09 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
As I recall, it was Scarpelli, who with his all Democratic council, called it a full time job, which it never was, and raised his salary from $12,000 to $50,000. This not being enough he sucked in dirty money until he admitted to "$5,000" which was only a way to avoid 20 years. Thought Acropolis would be a breath of fresh air, but the smell around him and his crew was even worse. Can politicians ever put the voters first when they get elected? It seems not.
brick strong
12:18 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
This is great ..its like turkeys running around trying to avoid the AX...Go Dem's and good luck..
Denny D
12:56 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
There seems to have been dealings between only some of the council members. If you remember correctly two years ago the Republican mailers excluded one of their own. He literally ran as in Independent and still won. As far as this council is concerned this is not the time to jam any "new" rules down anyone's throat. It is time to go back to a bipartisan form of government. It is time to end all the nepotism. It is time to end all the backroom deals. It is time to find people who want to serve the residents. Brick Township is polluted. We have to clean it up. We started already on Nov. 8th. If anyone wants to ask Dan Toth a question call him. He provided his personal phone number.
localexpert
1:06 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
DAN,you and the others are joined at the hip with the Gang of 7,4 down and 3 to go. Since you are so connected that you can not vote why wait for the elaction of next year when 3 of you will also be gone.How come we hear from you now,trying to save face. People are judged by the company they keep and you chose rhe wrong group,Stay with all of your business ventures,that way you can always vote PRESENT.We need people to make decisions that are best for the people of Brick,you make decisions that will help you,NO MORE GOOD OLE BOYS NETWORK... We are mad as hell and wont take it anymore....See Ya.
BW
1:27 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I have respect for Dan for abstaining from a vote that would be a conflict, they same caant be said about the others. And I believe him when he says he wasnt told about something. Steve and his clowns have a habit of excluding other council members. You have to remember wht they did to mrs. Russell. By Steve and crew excluding Dan IMHO only goes to prove they are afraid that he might tell those who pay his salary, THE TAXPAYERS. If he tells it would get shot down just like the OIP.
IMHO any type of a purchase or large expenditure, should be put forth to the people to vote.
Joseph Lamb
1:49 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I find it interesting that Mayor Acropolis stated that we have to get back to Republican principles at the end of the council meeting last night. When Scott Pezzarus was asked what was in the 15 year bond ordinance on first reading for $5.9 million bond, Scott Pezzarus stated that the largest item was $650,000 for work on the firing range. Absolutely no one corrected him.
When I got up to speak, I asked if the bond ordinance included $3.5 million for Traders Cove and Scott Pezzarus said I was correct. That makes almost $18 million for Traders Cove. I said that Traders Cove is a money pit and then proceeded to state that the county gave the town $1.5 million for the park that was built there. The cabana has been removed but 2-3 feet of dredged material from Lake of the Lilies have been placed right over the top of the park that was there. I asked that the spending be postponed until the new council comes on board to be able to justify the additional spending at Traders Cove and other spending. So much for transparency. The mayor said they heard the people load and clear. Hearing is one thing, comprehension is another.
Sam Foster
12:28 am on Friday, November 25, 2011
Mr. Lamb:
It is good to see you challenging our elected officials. Keep them on their toes. Confront them with facts and numbers so that people will see how our politicians are spending our money.
Good work:
Sam Foster
John C
12:32 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Mr Lamb lives in a fantasy land of his own made up numbers. He plays games with the fugures to tell his own story. He asks questions such as this at public meetings with wild made up accusations and then walks out of the meeting and does not listen to the answer he is given. What he fails to mention above is that Traders Cove has received over $8 million in grants and funding from various sources such as Green Acres as well as free fill (dirt) to raise the grade to the proper height which more than covers the purchase costs. (if you don't believe me contact the town planners office for the information) I and many others would rather have a public Green Acres Park here like we have at Windward Beach, than a closed private condo development and marina that restricts most of the public from access to the waterfront.
bricklakeriv
1:49 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Looks as though the 7 republican council members and Mayor have turned on each other. Great job Brick - power to the people!
Concerned Brick Citizen
1:51 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Since the Mayor has volunteered to cut his salary to $1, will he continue to do his required job as Mayor? Will the Mayor even put forth the effort to be a good steward or will he just give up? 54K is a lot of money to just cast away. Nothing has change regarding the requirements of both his full time jobs even if he agreed to not take a pay check. If he is a quality person he still would give up one job. As a voter and a tax payer I expect him to put in a healthy honest 40 hours a week to lead our Township. That is what he agreed to do when he won the office. – His commitment to the voters. If he doesn’t put forth the required effort he lied.
Art Sholty
3:07 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Have you been following him around at night. I'm told by valid citizens, honest to a fault, that the Mayor is out almost every evening attending local business gatherings for the promotion of business here in Brick. Additionally, he is at his desk early in the AM before he goes to TR. I call that work, do you? Can you inform me of how many and where he is to log in the 40 hrs? The mayor is not a stationary object, planted in just one place. He gets work accomplished by moving around, seeing people and helping their causes. Do I hear an AMEN
BW
3:11 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Art what is that brown stuff on your nose?
Mickey
3:31 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
art, the problem seems to be, that the wrong causes were helped. I realize you can't acknowledge that, but the voters of Brick have. so the people have spoken, your guys got bounced. and it seems the next bunch will be gone next Nov...can I hear an AMEN
Concerned Brick Citizen
4:27 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Art answer me this. How come he has never had the time to meet with me after many requests? Also when I'm in town hall he has never been in his office or even in a meeting on site? Why has he never answered one of my many letters? And you wonder why I question his job attendance. I guess my validity as an over taxed Brick citizen is moot to him. Even Joseph S. and Mayor Kelly gladly gave me the courtesy their time. I seems to me that Acropolis has no time to discuss legitimate issues with the “little” people. – Thus he has no business being in office.
Art post your email or send me a blog type private message and I will give you history of the issues and challenges I’ve faced and my real name, phone. I would gladly talk to you as well.
As far as your comment about "moving around, seeing people and helping their causes" -- That is just NOT TRUE! FAULSE, FAULSE, FAULSE!!!!! If that was true He would have gladly met with me and my wife.
Concerned Brick Citizen
4:30 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Sorry I forgot to add a big AAAAAMEENN! -- Which means Right ON!
disgusted homeowner
9:09 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Steve isn't worth the dollar !!!!!!!! He should just resign now and go quietly...........
Alex W
10:43 pm on Thursday, November 24, 2011
AMEN Brother Mickey AMEN.....................
Brick Mytown
2:28 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Dan is the only one who speaks his mind and isn't afraid to but heads with the status quo... If mike thulen was sooo interested in saving money then he wouldn't have hired hi girlfriend in recreation at $50000 a yr...
Art Sholty
2:52 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Bullet Dan is out for Dan, and only Dan, and still thinks like a teenager only he is supposed to act and think as an adult, not a kid who has an inflated EGO. He needs to go back to Kindergarten, but no BULLETS.
jpiercy13
8:14 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I am not a republican or dem but am a Dan Toth supporter. He was a couple of grades ahead of me at BM and we were in a couple of classes together at RU. Were lucky to have him as he knows Brick. He's not like the others on the council. Stop bashing him lowlife. Go to Simko's if you want to see the losers who did not get reelected belly up to the bar wheeling and dealing.
disgusted homeowner
9:13 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Dan was contacted several months ago about the issue of obstructions/basketball courts on public streets/property and has done NOTHING to this date. If he's too busy with all his business ventures, then he's obviously too busy to be a councilman collecting a salary and that ultra generous $20,000 per year family health insurance package!!!!! If he can't vote on so many issues and is forced to abstain, he really isn't doing his job of representing the folks who elected him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Concerned Brick Citizen
1:03 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Disgusted homeowner… I spoke to Dan T. in regards to this very subject. Nothing will be done at this time. His reasoning was that he wanted the children to be active versus sitting around and being out of shape. I do “FULLY” agree with Dan and fully and believe the kids need to be outside playing versus inside with their X-Boxes. I “DO DISAGREE” on where these items are being placed. They can be just as evasive as “Bamboo” for the neighbor/s. These items are large structures which requires a large are for usage. When a neighbor’s driveway, yard, etc. becomes part of the playing field, it now become invasive, intrusive and a nuisance. In my situation my neighbor has a garage and a driveway which would be optimal placement, but bothersome for them. So they would rather inconvenience the neighbors. Dan told me to bring the neighbor a six pack and make peace. Unfortunately there are some people who can’t be reasoned with like the US trying to get along with Iran. Dan told me the only other action I could take at this time would be legal. Now I’m upset… Why should I have to spend the $$s when I’m not the only resident with this problem? I would rather have the town create a usage ordinance/law which would save me and other tax payers’ time money and aggravation. Taking a neighbor to court will only make the situation more toxic. Unfortunately it seems to be the only solution since the township refuses to take action.
Concerned Brick Citizen
1:04 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Disgusted the only thing you can do at this time is call code enforcement because they can’t be placed on the Street/township property. In my case it only made a difference of 4 feet! The problem was not resolved.
Brick Mytown
2:33 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
If they were serious about saving money then they wouldn't hire a new recreation director when there was one their... They also wouldn't hire someone with no expierence as Tax Assessor at $100.000 when they could have promoted from within. And why did they agree to pay Juan 150.000 with no experience as ABA and admitted a know crook(Ritacco) is smarter then he is.
Denny D
3:24 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Art Sholty
Go get a glass of whine and read a few passages from the bible. It'll do you good.
knarfie
3:36 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Sholty, Could you name these valid citizens, honest to a fault.who are not related to you or Acropolis? And I guess we must assume they follow him from his house to town hall at 7:00AM. You can't believe this crap that you spew.
morrissey
3:42 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
1.FIRE JUAN BELLU
2.FIRE SCOTT PEZZARAS
localexpert
4:00 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Lets get rid of them all next election.. Hey Art,the plurality was 3,000 votes so get over it.. Next Nov. its going to be a landslide.while you and Mr. Gutter Alan C. get tard and feathered as your other4 are run out of town ...AMEN
craftwork
4:07 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Whats going to fun in the mean time is how Susan and James react to all of the barrage of questions about their suspect past. MY first question to Susan is how come you moved 12 timES in eleven years and went bankrupt. I think ill ask that question every meeting 12 different ways. I also would like James to explain the crimiNAL charge in front of the TV camera's . oh yea its gonna be fun,
BW
4:15 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
gorgoplock, epicepic, corpi, eastdover aka AL. You lost. You lost by a landslide. The people have spoken, they dont want Steve and his clowns anymore!
Now why dont you grow up and act like the adult you are supposed to be.
knarfie
4:15 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
don,t get too cocky. There are a lot of skeletons that could be brought up about sitting republicans, spouses charges, children juvenile problems, etc. I would talk to some people on board before opening up a can of worms. I believe you will be told to cool it.
Mark Story Jenks
4:14 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
This is all so interesting.
Denny D
5:17 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
craftwork,
You sound like a fool. The attacks against these candidates is exactly why they swamped your guys. Make sure to bring these issues up at the meetings so the electorate can see who cost the Rs the election. You really sound like an @$$.
localexpert
5:55 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Totally agree with Denny D..Show your ignorance in a public forum and many others who no where rhe bodies are buried will embarrase Mr. A.C. followers. Two can play the same game.Just start with all the relatives and groupies at Town Hall,that should have the Republican machine missing gears. GO FOR IT......
Dawn Marie White
7:56 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Just watched the council meeting. Department of Community Affairs, Federal Guidelines, D.E.P, C.A.F.R.A. Land Use Law, Municipal budget guidelines, ETC.... with the rest of of red tape Municipalities deal with. Once realized, will be an eye opener and truly an education. Keep Brick in your thought and prayers our future and our quality of life depends on it...
Daniel Nee
12:57 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Amazing, isn't it, Dawn?
John C
3:00 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Dawn, it is all the more reason to actually stand FOR something and have an actual platform instead of just running AGAINST everything and then having to face the reality of governing with no experience as well as no actual plan.
Momma T
10:37 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
A good faith gesture will not get you re-elected!
Ann
10:42 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
My comment will be short and to the point,Bye Steve, always remember the job you didn't do for Brick, because we will never forget. Now go make your money elsewhere.
Alex W
11:02 pm on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Corzine is looking for help!!
Jerseyclone
9:29 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Stevie are you and your puppets trying to be "martyrs"? I guess you have enough paybacks coming in from other sources that owe you that you can throw $50,000+ out the door. Oh ya, who paid for your nice boat? The republican destruction of Brick is coming to an end soon. Yea
Anthony
1:47 pm on Thursday, November 24, 2011
""We don't need anyone telling us what to do, especially people going out the door," said Councilman Joseph Sangiovanni, who will remain on the council next year."
Oh but you do, Mr. Sangiovanni. You guys have shown repeatedly that you need the residents of Brick to tell you what to do, and with this recent election, we're showing that you'd better listen.
disgusted homeowner
5:02 pm on Thursday, November 24, 2011
Anthony, you are 1000 percent right. We the voters have the right to tell our elected officials WHAT WE WANT not what they may want. And if they don't do what they are told, they will suffer at the ballot box, just like steve's cronies found out 2 weeks ago. It's time politicians wake up and LISTEN to the folks who elected them.
BW
11:16 am on Friday, November 25, 2011
Art, give it up. Your hatred for Dan is discusting, childish, and your mental state is unsettling. Just because Dan refuses to do what your lor and master Steve wants him to do, doesnt make him a bad person, in fact, it makes him the type of Team player the tax payers want. He is a member of OUR team.
Art why did you get fired from your public job? Was it because you refused to be a team player, or was it because your hatred shown through?
Concerned Brick Citizen
1:13 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
In today's Asbury Park Press's local news... A must read:
http://www.app.com/article/20111124/NJNEWS/311240041/Brick-mayor-volunteers-reduce-his-pay-1
Concerned Brick Citizen
1:28 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
APP reported today 11/25/11: "On Tuesday, Acropolis also urged the new council to roll back the 24-percent tax increase." This important piece to this puzzle was left out in this Patch article. -- If the Mayor now suddenly believes in this, what prompted his insisting on a 24% tax increase? The Mayor now knows he burned his bridge and his republican colleagues. Unfortunately the rest of them, the Council, didn't have the foresight to challenge the tax increase. If they did they may still be in office. - It doesn't always pay to be a team player.
Sal Petoia
3:38 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Isn't it amusing to see the Republicans fighting among themselves... Sangiovanni telling outgoing councilman Thulen that he has no right to tell the remaining council members what to do, with Brando chiming in. Both these guys have had their nests "feathered" for them with high paying jobs that they never would have had if they weren't connected with a political party. What ever happened to qualifications?
Both these guys should take the hint and resign now with "dignity" and be happy with their other politically appointed positions rather than to face the embarassment of losing in two years, or worse, being recalled before that ever happens. In the meantime, let's start taking a closer look at returning to non-partisan government.
knarfie
4:39 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Again I say, "Sal Petoia for Mayor" on a Democratic ticket, if required.
John C
6:17 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Mr Petoia in reality there is no such thing as a Non-partisan government. All that will be different is that there will be no "official" party backing of the candidates. In the past when this was the format of the governmemt in Brick the parties were still backing the candidates.
knarfie
8:16 am on Saturday, November 26, 2011
You are partially correct. In Brick, during non partisan elections,however, slates were comprised of both parties, supported by both parties. It did give balance to our government, not like what occurred during the Scarpelli-Acropolis years.
John C
6:19 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
And since everyone here is concerned about their property taxes please turn to the Board of education with your concerns because this is where the majority of your property taxes are going. You are paying more for your utilities than you are for the municipal portion of your taxes.
knarfie
8:25 am on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Taxes spent for education have always been 50% to 60% of expenditure. You are deluding yourself or putting a spin on the situation with your comments. Make no mistake about it. This was a vote ,pure and simple, against a group of people led by the Mayor who took every opportunity to milk the system with jobs for themselves, family and supporters. I sense by your comments, that if you had won, you would have been a "team player" like DeLuca.
knarfie
9:13 am on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Thank you for reminding everyone about Sangiovani's "job" with the school bus system.
I'm sure this will be an issue if he runs again.
Sal Petoia
11:29 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
For John C: You are right that even in non-partisan government the parties back their candidates; however, no party designation appears on the ballot, giving independents a better chance at getting elected. Brick had non-partisan government that worked successfully for over twenty years until Republicans sought to change it because they werent gettng full advantage of a greater number of Republicans being registered. Partisan government doesn't assure that the "best" will run for office... only that those chosen by the "bosses" will. Greater participation by unaffiliated people is needed to introduce fresh ideas, but the path needs to be made easier and fairer for them. My concern is that we have honest people seek office for the benefit of the commkunity, not for people who seek to get rich off the taxpayers.
Sal Petoia
11:30 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Sorry for the typos.
Sal Petoia
11:39 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Let me also add that under non-partisan government we didn't have nasty partisan campaigns such as what we just witnessed in this past election, and we had much greater participation for voters to choose from. Without party designation on the ballot, voters had to vote for the person and what he/she stood for. And there was far better cooperation among council members.
Stop The Gluttony in Brick Township
12:33 am on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Nepotism is everywhere people, not just town hall...fathers & sons, siblings, etc... on the police force, public works, firemen, Believe me, I am NOT an Acropolis fan & will be voting him out, however, if you are going to fight - fight fair. He is not the only elected official collecting paychecks from two tax-paying positions. I don't think that it is right, but it's no different than any one person collecting tax-paying welfare or unemployment money while working under the table, essentially ripping us off, or someone claiming dependents they are not eligible to claim for a higher tax return, or the numerous other frauds that cost me money. I happen to agree with Joseph Woolston when he said our votes should not be about Republican or Democrat, but rather about the individual. Suggestion: If you plan to vote, research the candidates. Had the people of Brick voted no in April, it would have forced the current council & Mayor to budget with-in the 2% cap. As the results showed, the residents were cowards, gave in, & still complain. The taxes will not go down. As per Tuesday's council meeting, the new council-elect people didn't know how the bond process occurs or that there are national safety regulations for playground equipment. They really do have a lot to learn. I hope they catch on quickly.
knarfie
9:21 am on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Excellent comments. Hard to disagree with you. There are always people scheming to beat the system and getting away with it. As far as the new people are concerned, there is always a learning curve. That' why seats are staggered.
Sal Petoia
10:58 am on Saturday, November 26, 2011
After thought to John C, who doesn't believe there is non-partisan government: Those who wrote the Optional Municipal Charter Law recognized that partisan politics could be divisive and disruptive, so they wisely provided an alternative that would help mitigate the influence of the parties, i.e. non-partisan government. It takes a little more effort on the part of the voters to better learn about the candidates since unless they know the candidate personally, their party affiliation would remain unknown. That prevents a voter from simply casting for either a Republican or Democrat. That should result in a better informed electorate and, perhaps, better people serving us who may be less beholden to the party bosses. Joseph Woolston understands this, as does "Tired of the BS". I'm glad to see some people are waking up.
John C
12:26 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Mr Petoia, don't you think that every candidate in each election as well as the office holders will be labeled with their party affiliation, or by their backers and supporters? by their opponents in public and in every form of media available? It is impossible in today's world for there to be a non-partisan anything. In the past when Brick had this format of government the teams were exactly the same it was the Democrats and the Republicans backing the same people that are involved and in control in each party today.
Denny D
1:17 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
So then you shouldn't have an issue with not having a D or R after a candidate's name, correct?
Sal Petoia
2:44 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
No! There is not supposed to be any mention of party affiliation in campaign flyers during a non-partisan campaign. The great majority of voters wouldn't have any idea who is a Republican or a Democrat. Only those active party members would know, and in comparison to all the independents and others who may be registered but not active, these would represent a minority. Voters would be voting for people on where they stand on the issues... not for a party. By any chance, are you a soon to be a former councilman? If so, John, let me tell you since you probably weren't seriously involved with politics during our non-partisan years. It worked well. There were cycles where Dems and Republicans even ran together on the same slate. Other Republicans tried bucking that group but were unsuccessful, and because Brick's elections were non-partisan, money from the county Republican organization was limited. I know because I ran with the losing Republican slate. That election resulted in a campaign by Republicans to change the government to partisan so that the vast resources of the county organization could be tapped.
John C
2:58 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
There will be labeling in the papers etc. everyone will know who the D and R are.
John C
3:07 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
No Sal I am not a current councilman. In the past I have considered serving Brick in this position but the potential accusations and vile attacks against my family and I like we see above may be a reason I chose not to serve the community in this fashion.
Denny D
3:09 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Sorry John, you are wrong. Not everybody will know who's who. It was very obvious who was who in this last election because of the mailers. Besides, it would be to the Rs advantage NOT to be identified in the next election. Who designed the mailers last month? You are an insider so you must know. Whoever it was should be banned for life for any election campaign.
John C
12:42 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Also in regards to a few comments above and others I have seen in the past I would like to make a few statements of pure fact without being attacked for partisan stance or affiliation on this message board:
Your tax Bill is a total of all your local tax obligations, Municipal, County, Fire District and Education/ Schools, please forgive if i missed a minor one. Your municipal taxes if broken down to a monthly basis on an average home in Brick is probably lower than most of your utility bills. In addion the Housing Authority is not supported by your local taxes it is supported by the rents collected from the tenants and an annual grant of money from the Federal Government through HUD. The MUA both here and in Toms River are also not funded through your taxes, they are supported by the water rates collected in the water bills and fees charged to developers.
Sal Petoia
3:13 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
John: Regarding your reasons for not running for office, I couldn't agree more. At least that is something we have in common. Too bad it has to be that way.
morrissey
1:26 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
how the entire country doesnt GRIP every election, just goes to show the IQ of the population
Joseph Lamb
6:48 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Imagine asking Brick residents to be more concerned about the Board of Ed rather than the Town's budget. The Town in the last 4 years raised taxes $26 million, the Board of Ed $10 million and in the last 3 years the BTMUA lost $14 million in operations and $5 million in investments as of 3/31/11 when the Dow was 12800.
If anything, the Town, then the BTMUA and at last the Board of Ed deserve scrutiny in that order.
morrissey
7:48 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
and yet you TOLD EVERYONE that you CHANGED YOUR MIND and agreed with the mayor and council IN RAISING MUNICIPAL TAX 24% FOR EVERY YEAR FROM NOW UNTIL INFINITY !!........you need to EXPLAIN yourself on this
Joseph Lamb
6:55 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
All my figures come from the Town's, BTMUA's and Bd of Ed's budgets. These are their numbers, not mine. These budgets are on the websites. Anyone needing copies of these, I will be happy to provide.
It's too bad that political operatives hide behing fake names.
morrissey
7:50 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
FIRE SCOTT PEZARRAS, he know where the money is hidden (surplus......hint hint) and does not have the taxpayers best interests , although he sure loves taking their money
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! THE REVOLUTION IS COMING
John C
10:26 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Like I said a fantasy world of made up facts and figures. He is playing games with numbers that he doesn't truly understand. I would urge anyone reading this to attend a meeting of any of the authorities and have the wild accusations made by Mr Lamb explained in plain english as they have been explained to him. His typical response is to either leave a meeting before the answer has asked for has been given and it is clear that he doesn't understood what he is talking about. And what does the Dow have to do with anything? No Government or Authority is permitted to invest in the stock market. If you understood what you were talking about you would know that.
Art Sholty
9:56 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Listen to the kettle calling the pot black
Joseph Lamb
7:08 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
I find it interesting that anyone still believes that the 24%budget increase and referendum were one and the same. All anyone has to do is look at the summary page of the budget. Only 7% had to be cut to be within the 2% CAP. Although some expense figures were pumped and some revenue figures were lower than they should be, who would want to allow the mayor to make cuts? The mayor hasn't done anything correct, why give him a chance to mess up again when we were going to get hit with 17% anyway?
morrissey
7:50 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
and yet you TOLD EVERYONE that you CHANGED YOUR MIND and agreed with the mayor and council IN RAISING MUNICIPAL TAX 24% FOR EVERY YEAR FROM NOW UNTIL INFINITY !!........you need to EXPLAIN yourself on this
Art Sholty
9:54 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Joe,
I hear that you can count better with open toed shoes than oxfords. I guess you're a whiz when at the beach
Scott Pezarras
9:27 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Morrissey
Why don't you ask Dr. Caprio from Rutgers University if any money is hidden in the budget due to the referendum. The PBA hired him as their expert to verify that there was a shortfall in revenues in the 2011 budget and without the referendums passage there would have been layoffs and cuts in services.
What are your credentials to prepare a CAP levy work book or analyze a budget?
And Joe where do you get your figure of 7% from, a little more than 4 cents of the tax increase was inside the CAP, leaving more than 8 cents required in the referendum required to balance the 2011 budget.
Ask any registered municipal accountant or certified municipal finance officer and the will tell you the same thing. Did you review the cap levy work book?
morrissey
10:47 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
all i know is you were all for the 24% increase and you made those numbers "work" in your favor......unfortunately you and all the cronies just didnt read the tea leaves well enough and understand THAT THIS TIME REALLY IS DIFFERENT......and now you will all pay the price with your jobs and reputations ......i cant wait to see when the next collapse in the market comes in the 2012 what your plan is.......my guess, is you will decide its a good time to spend more time with the family
localexpert
9:51 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
To the Flip Flopper himself. The Dems dont want you,the Publis does not want you. Your future is on the yellow brick road,please go away,you have NO credibility.You are the mouth that roared.,no substance,why not join up with Alan C. you can cty on each others tail....
Scott Pezarras
11:19 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
Morrissey
It was no secret that the 2011 budget could not have been balanced without the referendum, unless service levels were to drop. I do know how to read the tea leaves. People in NJ want services and low taxes. This is impossible to achieve unless you have recurring revenues built into a budget, whether it be taxes (ie. referendum), fees, or income from sale of solar power.
With a drop in State Aid and other revenue shortfalls in the budget, the 2011 could not be balanced.
This is documented in the Township's audits, annual financial statements, and budgets for those who care to read the documents. I have said this all along and have never waivered from this statement.
As far as my plan for 2012, I will continue my public service just as I have for the past 27 years.
morrissey
1:00 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
hey buddy, enough with the blaming the homeowners wanting services and low taxes.....thats just BS SPIN....... no they want the security of knowing they arent going to be thrown out into the streets because they can afford the increasing property taxes on their underwater mortgages .......and of which you added to their insecurity by dumping a 24% tax increase on them because YOU thought it would be more prudent and easier for your RINO friends to get relected to raise taxes and keep services than to CUT public employees (EXPENSES)..........but working as a public leech for 27 years and getting paid by the hard earned money of the taxpayers (at the threat of losing their house if they dont pay), what would you care
i hope you and Juan Bellu end up where you belong.......Unemployed
Art Sholty
9:51 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Keep puching Local expert
Scott Pezarras
11:29 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Morrissey
Are you saying that the people would have liked it better if we cut the service levels instead of going out for a referendum?
If so, then those people who wanted garbage service would be the ones on here complaining about a drop in service levels.
It is not BS spin, you need money to pay for personnel that provide service. I speak to people everyday that want the Town to provide a multitude of services. Without the employees to perform these functions this is impossible to accomplish.
Are you an advocate for only the core service levels the law says the twp. has to provide?
You can't have it both ways. These philosophies are diametrically opposed. Unfortunately it is either service levels or taxes.
localexpert
9:51 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
To the Flip Flopper himself. The Dems dont want you,the Publis does not want you. Your future is on the yellow brick road,please go away,you have NO credibility.You are the mouth that roared.,no substance,why not join up with Alan C. you can cty on each others tail....
Art Sholty
9:50 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Way to go, Flip-Flop
John C
10:32 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011
I am not making any excuses or statements. I mention the Board of Ed because it is the major portion of your tax bill and the turn out for the election on the school budget every April is quite poor. Before anyone should complain about their taxes they should make sure that they and all of their friends and neighbors are educated on the issues and take the time out to vote on the school budget. Maybe if the turnout was larger, more effort would be taken to control spending.
Art Sholty
9:49 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Keep swinging John.
Art Sholty
9:46 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Every one who only leaves a code name after they blog are scared of a rebuttal that might get them in hot water. My name is, Art Sholty and don't you ever forget it. Say what you want because I know that what comes out of my mouth and print is the truth and nothing but the truth. Some of these blogs are quite interesting but most have been written under the tactic or cover of not knowing who the person is. You people are just scared and hide behind it to save being ridiculed Sal Petoia knows of what he says but people like Joe Lamb and Bullet Dan Toth are in it for the political excitement of stirring things up with lies. You are a bunch of phonies with nothing but negative thoughts on your minds. The fact that I took on Bullet Dan was not to ridicule but to advertise his political M.O.s This is knowledge for the future that can help you select the person running for elected office. You be the judge while I try and mention those who are taking advantage of you such as Joe Lamb the excommunicanted one of the DEmocratic Party. I give them (D) for doing this to him. Maybe the two party system is out so give it a thought like I'm doing. While you're at it, go to Church and ask God what he thinks about your thoughts, it helps.
Again, my name is Art Sholty.......now start throwing the stones, they don't mean anything, anymore.
morrissey
10:00 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Easy Francis...........
morrissey
10:06 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrllCZw8jiM
Mark Story Jenks
11:20 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Art Shorty, put a sock in it.
BW
9:59 am on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Art I will be sure to light a candle for you when I go to church, looks like you could use God's help. Remember Art "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" "Judge not lest ye be judged".
I will be sure to mention your name when I talk to Paul this week.
Sal Petoia
12:01 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Scott: Regarding your last entry at 11:29, you are missing something. For people in your income bracket, the mayor and most of the council, the higher real estate taxes can be easily absorbed. For all too many who are living on the brink of financial disaster, the increase is intolerable. The council gave the people an awful choice: raise taxes or lose services. Many, especially seniors, were scared, and who's to blame them. They were basically extorted into voting to exceed the cap. There had to be other ways to reduce costs, e.g. maybe collect recycle once every two weeks, or eliminate high paying jobs like Juan Ballou (nobody really justified why we needed an assistant B.A.), maybe more effort could have been put in to sell off the Foodtown site, etc. Can you imagine if Acropolis' damp dream of purchasing the Ice Palace went through? The people have an absolute right to be upset and to take out their wrath on the incumbents. I predict there will be more "bloodshed" come the next local election... or maybe even before if people begin a recall election.
Scott Pezarras
7:52 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Sal
The overall increase from 2010 to 2011 on a $320,000 (avg assmt) house was $410 round numbers or $34 per month. The amount of the MUNICIPAL increase was $394 or $33 per month (inside and outside the CAP). The amount put to the voters in the referendum equated to roughly $256 on the avg. house. $138 was the avg increase inside the CAP (taxpayers were going to get this increase regardless of whether or not the referendum passed).
If you couldn't get your garbage, recyclables, bulk, and white metal picked up for $256 then the referendum benefited your household. That is how the referendum question was presented.
The amount of the referendum question was $8.6 million, which would not be able to be negated by eliminating the assistant B.A.. The sale of the Foodtown site would be a one time revenue shot and could be used once it is sold, but how do you make up that revenue moving forward?
Recurring revenue needs to placed on to the books in order to offset expenditures and balance the budget under a 2% CAP.
I am open to suggestionsfrom you, give me a call.
morrissey
12:25 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Scott Pezarras,
If it costs $300 a year (plus you all lied about how much private costs would be) for every house to pick up garbage than thats what the service should cost every house, not $900+ if you house is nicer or by the water and $75 if you live in a retirement village.......second and probably more important that extra increase now was put onto the property tax burden , where the homeowner MUST pay that ever increasing bill or be threaten with a tax lien and foreclosure.......you cant get foreclosed for not paying a private garbage bill
27 years living in the public sector has made you lose touch with reality......i have found you out to be the worst kind of liar......you are out to serve yourself.......the great thing about the depression is it woke the private taxpayers up from their 20 year slumber and shone the light on public employees such as yourself (who much prefer to operate under the radar)
saultydog
1:50 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
I maybe the last to add here but Mayor I am a former supporter you have given us far too much baggage to carry, you should have dropped your salary as mayor from the day you took the job with the MUA, now you want to turn back the tax increase?????????? You are a desperate man your ego is clouding you common sense. Without our support you have already lost the election when Joe was mayor you and the council found ways to cut bucks from the budget to make ends meet but those days are gone and so are you!
Brando should be the next on the hit list the mayor is chump change next to this side stepper!!!!
BW
7:29 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
I want to thank the R's for the good laughs they have provided over the last week. Art is preaching the word of God, and at the same time violating the golden rule. John C claims not to be the loser of the election, yet knows the inner workings of the MUA, just like John C the COMMISIONER would. Then we have Scott who is telling us what the mayor told him to say, I have to say he does a wonderful job of skirting the issues and BSing around a question.
Scott Pezarras
7:59 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Me
I never once said the Mayor told me what to say. Everything I posted is my own, based upon the finances of the Twp, which can be verified through twp audits, annual financial statements and budgets. How is that skirting around the questions?
John C
11:43 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
No "me" I am not the Councilman or the Commissioner, John has been a very common name over the years, and do you know what really gives us all a good laugh on this forum is the nasty political operatives and bitter people who hides behind a screen name to stay unknown and then become so interested in revealing the identity of someone that is at least posting under a real name.
BW
8:03 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Ok Scott let's see if you will answer this question or dance around it. WHAT are the details of the solar panel farm? How much is it costing us to build? How much is the monthly maintence? After 5 or 7 years how much to we have to pay the company who installed it to buy it back and run it ourselves? Who are the contractors? How many bids did you receive?
There is my question(s). I will wait to hear the answer.
Scott Pezarras
8:48 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Me:
We are currently negotiating with the redeveloper, but I can tell you this much we are going to receive an upfront payment in the form of a redevelopment fee once the redeveloper's agreement is approved( somewhere around $2.5 millin) The solar panel farm itself is a 6 to 6.5 mega watt facility, it is going to cost the twp nothing. The redeveloper is going to build the facility either through private financing or if the twp credit option is taken by the redeveloper, the redeveloper will be responsible to make the annual payments. The monthly maintenance will be the responsibility of the redevelopers, as they will own the system. We will continue to collect annual lease payments from the redeveloper and purchase power at a discounted rate far below retail market rates. The number of years and the rates will be negotiated . At the end of that period of time the solar field will be GIVEN to the Twp. and the Twp will continue to sell energy to the grid for the remaining life of the panels (approx. 10 to 15 years after we take it over).
I can't tell you the name of the redeveloper yet as we are still negotiating these items. Since it is a redevelopment project and we only received one bid, we were advised by our energy consultant to interview key viable players in the solar business. Which we have done and are moving forward with one of those interviewed.
morrissey
8:52 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
FIRE JUAN BELLU AND SCOTT PEZZARAS.......THATS A START TO THE CUTS THAT ARE NEEDED
Scott Pezarras
8:59 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Morrissey
Our form of government requires a Business Administrator, and I also serve as the tenured Chief Financial Officer for the twp, which the twp. is required to have by statutory requirement.
John C
11:49 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Yes Morrissey our form of government requires a Business Administrator because the Mayors position is not a "full time" position
morrissey
12:07 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
does our form of government also require us to have Juan Bellus hand in our wallets.....or do you need him to hold your hand ......you idiots thought you were invincible....wrong again !
John C
12:15 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
so then what are you going to do wity your $10 after your dream comes true?
BW
9:00 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
ok I get it. So it will be at least 3 or 4 years before anything is done. After all it has taken 3 years to negotiate foodtown and it still isn't sold. When you state " I can not tell you the name of the redeveloper" thats sends up a huge red flag. It means one of 2 things, the redeveloper is a political cronie being given the job, or there is no redeveloper.
Sorry Scott it is hard to believe ANYtHING that comes out of townhall. We have been lied to, threatened, exhorted, to the point, if you told us the sky was blue, we would believe it to be another lie,.
Scott Pezarras
9:09 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Me
We are meeting with them this week to continue negotiations. Unlike Foodtown site there is no need for DOT or DEP to get involved, so the project can move forward with construction as soon as the landfill capping is complete approx. 12 months.
You ask me for answers and when I give them you question their validity. We will have to have the council pass a resolution accepting the redevelopers agreement then you and everyone else will know who the redevelopers are.
Sal Petoia
9:39 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Scott: I understand what you are saying, but you still miss the point. Most people are hurting. Any increase in taxes hurts further. To seek higher taxes in the face of politicians holding multiple jobs as a consequence of political affiliation is an affront to taxpayers. How much really went into seeking other alternatives? The mayor now, after his party suffered a dramatic loss, volunteers to cut his salary to $1.00, while supporting cutting council salaries. It is obvious that eliminating the Asst. BA would not make a significant dent in the budget reduction, but it would show good faith that all avenues were being addressed. We need some innovative thinking. When the reservoir was being built it would have cost $2 million to excavate and get rid of the soil. I protested a decision to enter into a contract and argued that we should seek someone who would pay for the soil. One commissioner didn't want to do that because we would lose two to three months in the schedule. But I did prevail and convinced the commissioners (I was an alternate and had no vote) to seek alternatives. Monmouth County needed fill for a land fill cover and eventually agreed to remove the soil at no cost to Brick. Savings: $2 million! Innovative thinking! The burden cannot continue to be put on the less wealthy taxpayers.
Scott Pezarras
9:59 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Sal
Believe me I looked into alternatives, but $8.6 million hole is monumental. There were no more rabbits in the hat. If there was an alternative, I would have suggested it.
We simply didn't have the revenues to keep the taxes lower, that is why we posed the referendum question.
I wish there was another way. Dr Caprio confirmed this in his report to the PBA.
morrissey
12:12 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
i guess we dont pay you enough money to make the hard decisions !!!!.......much easier to pass the blame onto the taxapayers with the referendum and you and your RINO friends didnt think it could come back to knock you all out........hows it feel to know you had a big part in getting them all fired......but what do you care , as you and Bellu are still receiving checks
Sal Petoia
11:54 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Scott: I've worked with you in the past so I will accept your explanation for now; but, how did we get $8.6 million in the hole in the first place? Seems like a lot of spending without considering the consequences.
John C
12:00 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Come on Sal it is a combination of how many years of Zero Tax increases in election years in the 1990's using up surplus and one shot deals to balance the budget in the past and then add a lousy economy drop in revenues and drops in state aid the hole got deeper and deeper and the one thing the anonymous posters keep calling for will save us what $5 per household. Scott is doing his job no one should be attacking him loke they do on this forum.
morrissey
12:19 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
oh please John C, Scott had no problems cashing his check every week when times were great and he was basically on cruise control (this goes for all local governments and employees everywhere) but the the DEPRESSION comes and now lets blame everyone but the people who are in charge and getting paid taxpayers money to make the hard choices......scott is doing his job ????......what did he do , but raise everyones property taxes more than they can already afford (and then has the audacity to blame those same people that thats what they want....LOL)
Scott Pezarras
11:58 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Sal
Call me in the office I will be happy to explain. 732-262-1050
Sal Petoia
11:59 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Also, Scott, how much more would we have been in debt had the Ice Palace purchase gone through. Decisions like that indicate that the move was not fully thought out, nor show much consideration to the taxpayers. Thank God for Initiative and Referendum and the StopOverSpending campaign!
Best,
Sal
John C
12:14 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Sal don't confuse debt with a deficit
Sal Petoia
12:21 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
John C: First, I am not attacking Scott. I would hope that he is doing the best he can within the guidelines set by his employers. But don't tell me that an $8.6 million "hole" just didn't occur. Granted, it may have developed over a period of time, but that just further points out the mismanagement by our elected officials on both sides of the aisle. I guess you supported the Ice Palace purchase. That was a smart proposal in your judgement? How many other decisions occurred that went by unnoticed that contributed to our financial dilemma? All too often we have people governing who are merely "rubber stamps". They sit in the seat, take the salary and benefits (where applicable), including cushy jobs, and simply do not question. One of the negatives of one party rule. Based on your outlook the situation will only get worse. So, how do you propose to solve the problem... or do we just let it get worse until more and more people have to move out to get out from under. Not a bright future for Brick's people. By the way, don't I know you?
John C
12:34 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Sal, sorry I did not mean to infer that you were one of those attacking Scott. I do support recurring revenues and projects that create that revenue as long as the revenues cover the costs of running the project and paying off the financing. As far as the Ice Palace purchase, if the revenues received were enough to run and pay it off yes I would have supported it. I do see quite a large amount of money going from our Board of Ed (therefore our school taxes) going to pay for transportation out of town and to pay fees to other facilities for sports events so it wouldn't be such a tragedy for these revenues to be coming into Brick instead of other towns or private facilities. And please don't quote any of Joe Lambs numbers from the Ice Palace days, he in in no way reliable in any of the numbers he creates from the budgets and reports he quotes. I also don't want to see condos, another building like the Chambers Bridge Residence or another strip mall on the Ice Palace Property if the owner does eventually sell it when the market finally improves.
Sal Petoia
9:05 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Apology accepted. The Ice Palace had other problems besides the potential money issues, e.g. traffic at an already heavily traveled area. It would have been interesting to see how the referendum would have turned out. The SOS campaign was mainly to let the people decide. I like the use of I & R to inject the people into the legislative process on extremely major and controversial issues when necessary. I believe it was the first time since Brick adopted an OMCL form of government in 1966 (?) that it was ever used. The current Ice Palace use is okay, but what was proposed was very intense for that site and location. As far as I know, it still hasn't been sold. Remember the warning, "if Brick doesn't buy it, it will be sold to a private developer"? I agree with your "no condos". What would be desireable if the property is ever sold is a low intensity use that would be a large ratable that requires no township support.
Sean Conneamhe
6:37 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Taxes and fees are the recurring revenues which finance government.
Governments should not be involved in risky projects which are hoped to create recurring revenue. That is what businesses do, not governments. Businesses take risks and may succeed or fail. But governments cannot be allowed to fail. Governments provide for public safety and stability for society.
Governments must be conservative and must not imagine services it "must" provide and must not cater to special interest groups in order to buy votes with tax dollars.
Most people do not believe that governments, especially local governments, should be in the entertainment, energy, or real estate businesses. These are risky businesses, even for private business people, let alone politicians who never ran a private business successfully.
Politicians should not gamble with other people's money, especially with tax dollars, which are not a voluntary investment.
Goverment should not be run like a business, because it is not a business, just like business is not a government.
Government is sometimes more like a household where you must just say NO when the kids whine for more toys.
Scott Pezarras
7:55 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Sean
If there is no outside of the box thinking then all we have on the revenue side of the budget is taxes. State Aid is declining, grants are becoming scarce, one time revenue shots are no more.
The only thing left is the referendum law or a cut in service levels.
morrissey
10:08 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
good............ now you are starting to SLOWLY get it...............CUT CUT CUT ........learn the meaning of that word and use it in your vocabulary
Lori Morrison
8:04 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Scott, Next year when the budget is presented, the 2 percent cap applies, correct? Thank you.
Scott Pezarras
8:18 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Lori
The 2% CAP applies every year as does the 2.5% spending CAP. Remember, there are exceptions to both of these CAPs. Each of the exceptions are slightly different when they are related to each CAP.
Both include exceptions for debt service, increases to pension costs, and increases to health care costs. Healthcare is a little complicated as far as the CAP goes. Basically you can't exceed the increase in the States Health Benefit Plan and if you do, the amount that it is over the State has to be absobed in your 2% Tax Levy Cap.
Lori Morrison
10:15 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Thank you.
BW
8:31 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
Everyone just remember this, back in 2008 when the fight for OIP was on, Juan Bellu gave a statememnt to the press stating, "it is ok to spend our surplus on the OIP because there are no emergencies in the fore seeable future" With thinking like that no wonder Brick is in such dire financial straights!
Denny D
8:36 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
A few questions for Scott Pezarras. Please enlighten us on the following: 1) Who was the first person to propose the OIP deal? 2) Who was the first person to propose the demolition of the Food Town? 3) who was the first person to propose the Trader's Cove deal? 4) Who was the first person to propose putting the trailer on the Food Town site? 5) Who was the first person to propose cutting the salaries of the Council? 6) Who was the first person to propose the garbage deal with Point? No tap dancing please. These are very direct simple questions that the BA should have an immediate answer for. Thank-you
Lori Morrison
10:25 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
I am not sure who proposed the demolition of the the Food Town building, just happy it was done. Squatters and kids were spending a lot of time in there, and after a fire call, it was determined that not only was the building a fire hazard, it was a death trap for emergency services.
Denny D
12:13 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
I was addressing Mr. Pezzaras.
Scott Pezarras
11:18 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
Denny
The Mayor proposed that idea as a site to incorporate a Twp Community Center as well as other recreational opportunities to be done in phases. This occurred after prior administrations were unsuccessful in erecting a center due to the market effects caused by 9/11. I answered the Foodtown question in my response below. The Traders Cove idea of a park and working marina was intially proposed by the Scarpelli administration. The redeveloper proposed the trailer at the Foodtown site. This was first proposed by the redeveloper around 11 months ago during a redeveloper ad hoc committee meeting. Cutting of Councils salaries was first brought up at a committee mtg by the Mayor in May, I believe (not sure of the month). The shared service idea with Point was brought to us by Sue Rodgers when she was exploring shared services as a cost savings measure. The idea languished and was resurrected by Mayor Schroeder when he asked us to update numbers to pick up solid waste and recyclables for Point.
Concerned Brick Citizen
9:38 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
The one issue which bothers me the most as a resident , is why are Brick’s taxes so high with all the retail/businesses and big box stores in town. -- Staples just doesn’t move from Lakewood to Brick unless they were offered a nice incentive. What about PC Richard’s, The Christmas Tree Store, Home Depot and many others. What deals were cut to attract these businesses? Taxes should have decreased instead of increased. Now with these new businesses, we are also being penalized with congested roadways, etc. Talk about occupy Wall St. While retailers may bring jobs, they are mostly paying low wage jobs. You need to be in management to make any money in those stores. I would bet most of the managers are from out of town. I would like to see a survey done to see how many of the higher paid employees actually live in Brick and if they do, were they transferred. Most large retailers promote from within, thus employees move from town to town.
What is the true finical benefit of have “Big Box Stores” in Brick? How much do we as tax payers actually save (on average per household)? Maybe you can answer this question Scott.
Lori Morrison
10:28 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
The revaluation of taxes that took affect a few years ago is the main reason that so many of us had a huge tax increase.
Scott Pezarras
11:29 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
CBC
These businesses were not given any "deals" abatements or otherwise because they do not meet the criteria. They come to Brick on their own accord. The tax revenue generated from these businesses is not enough to negate tax rate increases because they account for a small portion of the ratable base. They are however known as what we call "clean" ratables meaning they pay school taxes and put no kids in the school and pay for services they do not use in their overall tax bills such as garbage, recreation facilities, etc. that is why "clean" ratables are welcome in business zones.
If you look at the block and lot for these sites and see their total taxes paid then multiply that by roughly 30% that is the amount the municipality receives in taxes. Take this number and divide it by the total ratable base, that figure is the tax you save respective to the tax rate.
Denny D
9:51 am on Monday, November 28, 2011
One more Scott. Whose idea was Bellu's 50K increase?
Scott Pezarras
11:33 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
The appointing authority of the Twp approves personnel moves. Mr. Bellu was appointed to run the dept of land use and the dept of engineering.
Hot dog Johnnie
11:16 am on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
Denny - To amplify on the "appointing authority" issue: The Town Ordinance established the Department of Community Development & Land Use. This is headed by a Director, Mr Bellu. The qualifications of this position are to simply have any 4 yr degree OR "appropriate" employment experience. No advice and consent of this position is required by the Township Council, the position is appointed by the administration (ie Mayor or BA). There is also the position of "Deputy Municipal Department Head (Community Development & Land Use)". This position has the same qualifications but interestingly enough, this subordinate position requires advice and consent of the Council of the Mayor's appointment to this position. Within the Department is the Division of Land Use & Planning, which has its own division head. The qualifications of this position require a State license in Professional Planning. Interestingly in this whole setup is the fact that a licensed professional in Land Use & Planning is supervised by someone who is not required to have any experience or license in this field. This ordinance is unlike any other "Faulkner" Mayor/Council form of government with respect to the aforementioned irregularities. This is why the appointment of Mr Bellu in his current twp position (for which his only qualification is friendship with the Mayor) is a defensless, obscene & shameless case of abuse of power multiplied by 150000 taxpayer $.
knarfie
1:06 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
Don't forget the "austerity" program Don't replace retiring people,but replace them with volunteers to save the town money while Mayor and gang were getting fat with raises and jobs created for them. This crew was the biggest fraud ever in the history of the town.
knarfie
9:55 am on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
Scott Pezarras
Would you please clarify for the readers who the "appointing authority" of the town is? Most of us know, but please make it clear to those who do not>
Denny D
3:48 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
I guess you have had a busy day Mr. Pezarras. I'll wait for your response to some rather simple questions. Whose idea and proposal were the solar panels? What company was paid to remove all the trees? Who wrote out the check? Who was t5he check made out to? While you're at it, who demolished the Food Town building and who received payment for that? Whose name was on the bottom of the check?
L
7:21 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
Well hit did put the ball in the dems court. Let's se if they want to reduce "spending" in Brick? How funny :)
Scott Pezarras
11:00 pm on Monday, November 28, 2011
Denny
Solar panels were the Twp's energy consultant's idea and it was embraced by the Administration, Council, and EPA as well. The landfill capping contractor is Carson and Roberts, they removed the trees in accordance with EPA's required capping plan that was approved. The check is eletronically produced through the accounting software, it is signed by the appropriate signatory in finance. The check would be made out to the contractor Carson Roberts. The Foodtown was demolished the redeveloper M&M Construction, no one was paid as the redeveloper has his own people to do this type of work. No check was written from the Twp. for the demolition of Foodtown.
Denny D
10:19 am on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
Well Scott, some of your answers explain things and some are simply too vague. WHO in the Energy Consultant? You are also saying that M&M demolished a property that they do not own? WHO are the members of the Appointing Authority? Are they the same people who transferred township workers before the layoff? What about the OIP? Who proposed that deal? If you do not answer these easy questions you may be determining your own fate. It is time for the highest paid member of Brick Township government to answer precise questions with precise answers. Thank-you
morrissey
9:38 am on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
So the shared services idea languished while garbage pickup was being threathened to be made private and then just happened to be resurrected after you scared the sheep into passing the referendum......isnt funny how that all just seem to time itself so perfect and the public WHO YOU WORK FOR, was not informed of any of this !!!!!!!
Scott Pezarras
8:10 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011
Denny
If you contact me at my office I would be happy to discuss your concerns with you. My number is 732-262-1050.
Scott
Concerned Brick Citizen
11:45 am on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
Scott P., thanks for your response. I do understand what you’re are saying about the tax benefit as well as these businesses being less taxing on our services, but there is a tradeoff. These businesses depend heavily on our local police especially this time of year. I remember years ago Brick residents were told that the addition of business coming into Brick would help stabilize our taxes. In the past few years we have seen a huge growth in businesses as well as a huge growth in taxes. It seems at this time adding more large businesses in Brick will not have any positive benefit on our taxes as well as community. I think Brick has over built and hit the point of diminishing returns. Those new businesses along 70 and in other locations have only increase traffic, cleared our local forests and destroyed the natural buffering between residences and business. I would rather look at trees versus a large man made wall/sound barrier. Trees help you to keep cool in the summer as well as allow some movement of air versus a wall. Over development becomes a quality of life issue for many in Brick and could decrease the values of their properties as well have a negative impact on the growth of our community. A drive through Brick is not a pretty thing. There are no longer the beautiful “shore” community aesthetics. Only open waterfront owners benifit.
KC
2:20 pm on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
I agree w/ Concerned Citizen. Did we really need another liquor warehouse? And what about that monstrosity that is going up (is it a gas station?) in Brick Plaza! That huge ugly box is an eyesore and totally detracts from the esthetics of the plaza. As I sit here my area is up to its eyeballs in bags - ugly, wet, nasty bags and bags of leaves because this town can't even get together a leaf pickup schedule that doesn't continually favor the same areas and leave others til Christmastime with three months of leaves. I have grown to dislike this town's leadership and only wish we could clean house further and sooner.
Denny D
12:18 pm on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
Does anyone know what happened to the "Ethics Committee"? Who is/was that comprised of?
knarfie
3:06 pm on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
You can't use the word "ethics" in the same sentence when referring to this administration in town hall.
Sam Foster
1:27 am on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Denny D:
Since I filed an ethics complaint against Mayor Acropolis a few years ago when Virginia Lampman was township clerk, and considered filing an ethics complaint against Mayor Acropolis for harassment a few weeks ago, I can tell you that the ethics committee does still exist. In the past the township clerk was in charge of the ethics committee, with the actual committee selected from township council members. To me it is worthless: good luck complaining about a politician in town. I base this on my experiences with it. I had the same problem when I tried to file a criminal complaint against Mayor Acropolis for harassment. I received a big run around from Lt. Ling in the Brick Police Department, so I am now going to complain to the Ocean County Prosecutors Office and the F.B.I.
Concerned Brick Citizen
12:30 pm on Thursday, December 1, 2011
Denny D. filing an ethics complaint is a waste of your time. Even going to town hall meetings is a waste. I may never attend one again. The township personnel and all people who are working for or associated with the township are immune to mistakes due to “tort” laws. I’ve learned this first hand, when one “Township” employee told me that even if I’m wrong, I’m right. Justice was done when this arrogant employee lost his job. I’ve even received a letter from the township lawyer stating that township employees are protected when they make mistakes. It must be nice to screw up on your job and not get blamed or be financially responsible. I’ve been called a liar by the township engineering firm even though I had proof via bills when the work was completed, inspected, signed off along with dated photos that proved clearly it was an engineering code enforcement mistake. – Birdsall (sp) needs to go! The former plumbing sub code official told me I removed a required valve, because it was there when he inspected the property. He proceeded to tell me that I removed it to save money. .-- $5 valves! Get real! He also failed to find and recognize an open sewer vent I’ve learned that the buzz phrase town employees use to protect their A**s is that “You altered it. It was there when I inspected it.” It was Newman Jr. who told me photos mean nothing and prove nothing. And some people wonder why I’m so upset or negative.
Concerned Brick Citizen
12:32 pm on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
After doing some research I now I really see a problem... It pays to be a large business in Brick. Check out the Tax history on PC Richard and Sons. 550 Route 70, Brick, NJ property. They are paying less in taxes versus the former owner. The Mega Corporate businesses on average don’t appear to have been subject to the same increases as the average homeowner or pay their fair amount in taxes. I think Brick township is giving away the store at the expense of the local citizens to bring in large retail chains. What have they really done to boost our local economy? I’ve yet to see any benefit. Sure there are low wage jobs to be had, but nothing sustainable. These mega corporations should be paying twice in taxes what they are at this time. How are these businesses truely benifiting Brick?
morrissey
12:42 pm on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
no the businesses are paying ENOUGH in taxes.......the homeowners need to be paying 50% less in property taxes.......and thats done by cutting public employees and services and a total revamp of how schools are funded
knarfie
3:37 pm on Tuesday, November 29, 2011
I read the article in the Brick Times regarding the mayors giving a tour to the council people elect. He said something about living up to campaign promises or they will be one term servers. Imagine taking advice from someone who was basically the cause of his people losing and does not have speck of a chance to be re-elected if he has the nerve to run, or if his party will even back him. Still in denial,
blaming the cap for the results, as if he was an innocent bystander. Face it. You are through.
lvdherelong
12:30 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
I cannot believe a few things in these comments....all 225 of them.
I can't believe that Art has now turned his guns onto Dan Toth, and then as a follow up, that next to no one understands why he obtains, AND that there is no mention of other council persons obtaining all the time over the years.
I can't believe that anyone who isn't certified by the state to do what Scott Pezarras is going to continually bash him on here, AND that he would waste his time even entering into a debate with anyone on here.
I also can't believe that anyone reading this thinks that there could be an election that could involve independents, truly unbiased and unsupported candidate. I think Ed (God rest his soul) may have been the only and the last unsupported candidate to run. Brick's budget is too large for a party not to be backing it. It will always be a D or an R, and there will always be attacks of ones person and or family when they attempt to step up and do WHAT'S RIGHT FOR BRICK, regardless of party affiliation.
And furthermore, I can't believe that The Patch allows half of this stuff to remain on their site, cause 90% of the stuff posted here is just hogwash posted by political cronies who don't really have a clue as to what they are talking about.
Lastly, it's a shame no one, well close to no one, on here ever thinks of what's right for Brick....only what's right for themselves and or their political party.
Mark Story Jenks
12:47 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
The second and third sentences of your comment seem a bit cryptic. But the rest of it makes sense.