What a circus act. So the fab four of Barrella Corbally Tooker Gordon just gave the bars back one more hour but will not take 160k a year for more police? Wtf are these morons doing.

Why? Just make it until 2. What difference is closing by 1 going to do? Really? Fighting back and fourth and dragging our town through the mud just so a compromise can be made. How is this helping the town in any way? This has been a ridiculous charade. Is the town going to get money for extra police to control the crowds?

No extra money steve. They said they didn't want the money. For one freakin hour they just cost every taxpayer 160k per year.

The reason they can't take the money because earlier in May it was decided that to take the money being offered from the bars would be unlawful. I'm sure the town would gladly have taken the money but they simply can't due to the laws created by the ABC. Something with the amount that was being offered exceeded 10%. I'll try to look for it.

Most likely an attempt to side-track the an ABC Ruling that would have invalidated the 12AM Ordinance with the strategy that the Ordinance can no longer be overruled by the ABC since it is no longer in effect. Certainly shows a "buckle" in the armor of the Barella Camp. The legal question is will an decision by the ABC overruling the original 12AM Ordinance still apply to the new 1AM Ordinance or will the Boardwalk have to re-appeal? Is this really a "compromise" or an attempt by the Barella Camp to save face before the ABC ruling? Is the tide turning or is this simply justice prevailing in the good old USA?

Thread goes epic in 5, 4, 3 . . . .

I think there is some confusion....It's "Government of the people, by the people, for the people" NOT " By FOUR people ".

Guess the Mayor found a Dolphin head in his bed!

It should be understood that before this vote to keep the bars open until 1am took place Lurie Reid and Mayer voted to keep the bars open until 2am and take the 160k a year for 5 years. That got voted down and then the fab four voted to keep the bars open until 1am for no money at all.

was parking part of the meeting

@JoeTomato amazing.....1hr more...and they couldn't take the 160k...either they are just utterly confused by the legal councils recommendation or just totally flustered...am i the only one who doesnt understand?? isnt this about getting more help for the police to keep the peace.?? so by them not taking the $$ and giving an extra hour?? this sounds more like its a personal grudge then "PPB Business"

Well at this rate, the next council meeting these four bozos will vote to keep the bars open until 2am and pay them 100k to do so.

Hey Mayor: lifting the parking restrictions. . . or is there something that doesn't compute over there. . .What's the point of going to a 1 AM closing when bar patrons have to get off their stools and go move their cars to Silver Lake. . .and then for what... come back and drink for another half hour!

@PPB BusinessOwner: this is all about 200-300 residents...which includes the Mayor, Councilman Corbally & Tooker. . .all living in District 4...that want to run the town. . .

Yep. They and residents like Dave C. are so bad for the town. This just creates more problems with people moving around at all hours. If its not the bars its that there are too many cops or town workers. If not that its the Canadian geese excrement. If not that then its the weeds at the lakes....point beach is home to those who complain yet do nothing about it.

Well seaside is very excited there drooling over the $$$$ they will be making off of some hard headed politicians trying to destroy the fun in this town. Now the newspapers and media beews channel are making sure families and young people to think about someplace else. sSeaside is welcoming this 12 am closing

Well the residents would love if everyone went there instead. But that will never happen.

But they will expect Jenks or martells to fix the little league fields.

The Hippocratic Oath is an oath historically taken by physicians to practice medicine ETHICALLY and HONESTLY.

In short it states: "I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone...I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any such counsel..."

A Hippocratic Oath is also needed for the lying, cheating, stealing, self-serving politicians too. This Barrella, Tooker, Gordon, Corbally group had the nerve to criticize the former Council for their decision on the Hotel/Motel Tax reduction. As Forrest Gump once said, "Stupid is as stupid does." I'll take Cervino, Rizzo, Dyer, and Hennessey any day over this group of misfit clowns. Tooker and Corbally (2013), Gordon (2014), and Barrella (2015) will be filed into the political waste basket -- one by one -- in that order.

Isn't Tooker a teacher?

if the bars hold on a few more weeks , they will be open until 4AM and Barella will be paying them.......what a clown !

Turning down 800k was a bonehead move. You can pay alot of specials with that.
The council looks like chickens with their heads cut off.
This should be a ballot question.

I specifically said Santiago was not to be touched!

Glad I don't live in Point Beach.You have bigger problems than Bars.What was once a lovely little town is now controlled by greed and selfisness from all sides. I moved out in the 80's but remain close by. So sad to see the type crowd that now inhabits the BW.The off season motel patrons were th beginnig of the end for Seaside(criminals, pedefiles,section 8,ect,)and Beach is already there. Beach is a scary place in winter and there's nothing that can be done about it with train station and an abundence of sleazy motels in town.On the plus side the downtown is quite nice.Too bad they are caught up in this mess along with many long time residents that have watched the BW area decline.I do hope the tide turns.

It is amazing....... Councilman Reid is a typical politician. Talking out of two sides of his mouth. He claims taking money from the boardwalk is considered "extortion" then votes to take the money. Councilmen Mayer and Lurie also voted to still take money from the Boardwalk, yet smart enough to say nothing.

how do we stop the littering? why do i never see anyone get tickets for throwing their trash on the curb and in our yards? i live in district 4 and it's getting out of control. i know this has nothing to do with the bars closing an hour later but i needed to know if other people are getting aggrevated about the garbage that is all over the place.

This situation just gets worse as it goes on. Does anyone comprehend just what happened? 1) We have councilmen calling it an "extortion" to take the money then voted to take money from the boardwalk. 2) We have the boardwalk that based its appealed to the ABC that it was an "extortion" attempt.....Yeah...they are really sincere and wanted to work with the town in helping them with the extra cost for extra police needed to control the crowds that are their customers. I don't think so...3) You have a resident John Morongiello questioning, is the decision a resolution or an ordinance? I would say both John.... It became an ordinance first. The ordinance went through. It became a resolution when director Halfacre did not want to do his job. He ordered them to go back to the table and compromise. There are procedures that have to be follow. 4) Director Halfacre did not do his job by letting the town set their own hours that they are legally able to do. 5) How can Frank Kineavy suggestion work? Get a Fact finder. Really? Fact finding is a bunch a bull....Getting all sides together.......The council, businesses, police, D4 residents? How come only D4 residents? The other district residents don't count . All decisions made affect the whole town, not just only one district. His own bar business is not even in D4... isn't this ordinance affecting him, yet he wants to shut out all residents but D4. What do you think they all have been doing in getting to this point?

PPB seems to be a town in decline unless something is done. Their reputation will keep many of us away until they clean up their act. You tried to recall this circus act and failed. You really need to try again if you all truly cared about your town and its reputation. Right now, you are dependent on tourism so it does matter what outsiders think. Hopefully you will all wake up before your "problem children" bankrupt your town. I'm sure if that happened the "leaders" will blame on the "overpaid" public employees, their unions, and their pensions. I hate to see bad happen to your town because you seem to have good people there. Just remember this: Bad things happen when good people do nothing to stop them.

mailman.....How do you know what the majority is? Put it on the ballot so all the residents can vote is the only way anyone can make that statement. If I recall, most of the new council members have stated they are stepping out of their homes and walking the streets all hours to asses the issues. What i have read and got out of it that the BW was calling it an ."extortion" in their ABC appeal. Is that not the 800k?

There has to be more to this story. You can't tell me that the four members of council who originally wanted money from the boardwalk, then closed all the bars down at 12am unless they paid a fee, now just gave all the bars back an hour making the closing time 1am but without any money coming in that they originally requested. Please tell me I'm missing something. Please tell me these four council people didn't just ignore almost a million dollars over five years because their egos and stupidity got in the way. Closing at 1am or 2am will not make one ounce of difference for the quality of life so why did they not take this money? For the love of god please tell me I'm missing a huge piece of this puzzle.

If the BW was truly sincere about helping the RESIDENTS of the town? They would have just given the money along time ago. They were well aware of all the complaints the residents of D4. They repeatedly have said they wanted to be good neighbors to the residents surrounding their bars. If that is the case, Why didn't they? They use the excuse that is because of the Mayor. They would not have been doing it for the Mayor, They would have been doing it for the RESIDENTS.

"from the residents of D4"

TJ. Have to disagree with you there. What happened here is clear. Politicans Barrella Tooker Corbally and Gordon ran on a platform of "make the BW pay more." When the state legislature would not give Barrella the power to tax he asked for he decided to do it anyway. He figured BW makes so much money they would just pay. He did not count on a fight. ABC is right that was extortion to try and compell payment. But nothing to stop donations. But squeaky wheels would not let them take the money. Now BW is going to say no and ABC is going to stay ordinance and residents will get 0

Wow this town is starting to be a joke.

...more of the Barrella's [BS] antics. . .out of one side of his(their) mouth they say: with the 1AM closing...we don't want the BW money. . .then Barrella apparently after the meeting...tells the Associated Press(AP) with regard to ABC ruling against the town...

...the borough would likely appeal that decision, and said a ruling against the midnight closing law would constitute a state-imposed unfunded mandate, suggesting it could be challenged on those grounds as well...

This has to be known as duplicity with stupidity. . .if the money wasn't the issue with the 1AM closing. . .why is it an issue to go to Court over in extending the closing time one hour. . .Wasn't it the BW who originally agreed to pay the money ...to stay open to 2AM?. . .and now if the ABC rules against them, they want to go to Court to get the money they could have gotten all along??

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/a399bb7e82664bd981c473d54d9bdb2b/NJ--Shore-Things-Boardwalk-Brouhaha

The BW turned down the compromise offered by the Council. So much for trying to be good neighbors.

I want to applaud the only person who made sense last night. Now that we have undone the police cuts begun in 2008, the right move is to see if there still is a problem.

Frank Kineavy, owner of Frankie's Bar and Grill said: "If there is a mess down there, I think we should all observe it and really help this town," he said. Rather than have Barrella, Tooker, Gordon and Corbally politicize the situation in D4, Frankie suggests we find out what is actually going on. Squeaky wheels say it is real bad; rest of us say “it is not bad now that the cops are back.” So here is Frankie’s suggestion:

"I am again proposing a fact-finding commission, made up of members of council, police, members of the bar business, and residents in District 4, to observe the problems that are in this neighborhood, see where the accountability is, figure out where the problems are and eliminate them.”

I would take the politicians out, they can’t help. The politicians are not interested in solutions for residents; the politicians are interested in solutions for politicians. Shameful really. But police, business, and residents with different views on the condition in D4 should be able to get this done for the benefit of all.

Let's take the politicians out----they had their chance, and they failed miserably.

Why should the behavior of drunken patrons be taken out on the town or the boardwalk businesses?! Whatever happened to personal responsibility? If you are drunk and peeing on somebodies lawn - get ticketed - pay a fine... Period. The town has plenty of specials and police - just restructure where they are at what time - problem solved! I though gov't was for the people by the people not just a handful of government officials ruling their little world! WTF People?!

They obviously have no power to do anything and they certainly aren't respected.

Let’s all keep in mind that these politicians, Tooker, Corbally, Gordon and Barrella have deliberately exaggerated what tourists in D4 do. One of my D4 neighbors told Tooker she did not experience any problems in D4. Tooker told her she was “too tolerant” of tourists. Imagine that!! How many of the squeaky wheels did Tooker, Corbally, Gordon and Barrella create by telling them they were "too tolerant?"

You are all looking through green color glasses.

put a $12.00 toll at the bridges and bay head put poice jobs up for bid, lowest bid gets the job 401 k and 35% toward your health benefits

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Hi Spooner- Be a doll and post the Mulshine article from today's Star Ledger please.
As I wrote in the other thread, it's a SLAM DUNK! Thanks!

Not necessary Mr. Happy, better to read Full Timer above. Someone who loves the Beach and still lives here, not someone who loved the Beach, but moved to Bay Head.

Enough of Paul Mulshine. . .Mulshine is a Barrella stooge. . .Barrella invited him to the meeting...and Barrella called him about the BW decision...

Published: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 4:03 PM Updated: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 4:51 PM
Paul Mulshine/The Star Ledger By Paul Mulshine/The Star Ledger

...But yesterday afternoon Barrella called to tell me the bars had rejected the deal...

...you tell Paul Mulshine to come here and debate his doody whop that he writes! . . .also the Storino's are Italians too. . .stick that up your racist pipe Paul. . .

Thanks Spooner for the Mulshine info. Good to see that we both agree this article needs to be seen. There's hope for you yet! Thanks again.

I don't think this will work Pt Pleasant bch is a town where a lot of people come to drink and party. If you close the bars early , people may attempt to drink 6 packs on the beach or cases in their Motel rooms and disturb more people and make more trouble for the cops to handle.

Hi Been Here- In your 2:36 post Wednesday, you now claim that the bloc has not only exaggerated, but created the D4 problems. This logic kinda sounds like those people that downplay or deny the Holocaust in the face of overwhelming factual evidence. Your thoughts on that issue? Wondering if there is a pattern. Just curious, thanks.

Politicians creating problems by cutting cops so they can ride to the rescue. Yes Happy, by cutting cops (see special numbers from Chief above---fewer specials in 2011 than 2010) politicians created problems to exaggerate for their own selfish political ambitions. Tell me, Happy, who was in charge of Council in 2011-------Barrella, Tooker, Corbally
And yes, Happy, when Ms. Tooker is busy telling residents of D4 they are too tolerant, she is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
The Gang of Four can repeat forever that they were just working for residents, but no money and 2:00 am reveals to us all that it was all about them, not us.

Ray: Mike Corbally has been answering the questions, maybe you are not listening or just don't comprehend.