What the heck! If this story is true, why didn't the Farmingdale company get the bid?

Allow Detcon to rebid, who cares if it insults the other company, its business being done with our money. Let them both rebid if nessesary. Just get the best deal.

Makes you skeptical as to who knows who. hmmmm

So they didn't compare apples to apples in the bid. The Farmingdale company bid as the requirements stated, they came out and said that if the bids we equal their bid would have been "substatially lower," and yet the council is moving forward paying the higher price. Hey council admit there was an error and move this for a rebid. Far too long have we the Taxpayers had to pay for your lack of knowledge or failure to admit mistakes. Step up to the plate and be on our side for once !!

with the psi difference along with the weight (over 2 Lb p/sq.ft) difference between the two gauges of steel there cause for concern on the durability. yes heavier steel means the trucks weight more leading to more wear and tear as well as fuel consumption but what is the trade off in life span of the containers?

I agree this should be a rebid based on the new specs, unless the Farmingdale Co. missed something from the start. How does one company get away w/ one set of specs and the other doesn't? The trucks aren't even built and something stinks already.

No surprises here. I've seen first hand how the bidding system works. This is a common practice that has caused many reputable companies to lose out on contracts. There's always one who "revises the specs" to submit a lower bid. However, this is the same practice Harley Davidson used to get the WW2 military contract. Except HD INCREASED the quality (engine size) for the same price. I wish the township garages would pay more attention to the contract specs and validate as opposed to just looking at the specs on the labels. This has been happening with batteries and garage supplies for years.

Wow that is so shady lol. Every time I feel like Barnegat is corrupt I read about what goes on in Brick and feel a little bit better.

What gauge metal was listed in the bid specifications? If it was 12, then Detcon screwed up by bidding 8 gauge. If 8 gauge was specified then the town should rebeid at 12 gauge if that is what we want. It's all in the specs when it is public bidding.

"What gauge metal was listed in the bid specifications? If it was 12, then Detcon screwed up by bidding 8 gauge. If 8 gauge was specified then the town should rebeid at 12 gauge if that is what we want. It's all in the specs when it is public bidding."

EXACTLY; Until we know what specification was in the proposal, all this conversation is simply conjecture.

People, that's just the way it is. I know that personally. I remember in my past of having better products at a better price and knowing more about the products, the uses, etc. However, I would not get a contract because I was not a pretty young blonde that looked good in a tight black minidress. Sometimes, it doesn't matter who you are or how good your product is. It's all about favorites. That's why I left that business.

Glad to see that the current council majority is continuing to implement the sound decisions that were set in motion by the prior council.

For Dan Nee: Can you post a copy of the bid specs? Without the facts, there is too much second guessing. Our elected officials owe it to the people they presumably represent to show their decisions are in the best interest of the public. For too long much of what has been done is clouded in misinformation and suspicion.

Peterbuilt Trucks the Cadalliac of trucks Why not International or Freightliner trucks
and save even more money

Once again this shows the hypocrisy of township officials telling us to "buy local", "save jobs", "keep the money in New Jersey", but then they go outside of the state to Pennsylvania and award the grant to a company that, if the article is correct, offered something less substantial than the specs called for to begin with... "bid based on specifications that called for 8 gauge steel resistant to 100,000psi of pressure, while the winning bid was awarded to a company that had proposed thinner, 12 gauge steel resistant to 80,000psi of pressure." How can the award be given to someone that came in with an inferior product than the original specs required?

It's called BID RIDDING, it's the same old same. They know it, we know it, the lawyers know it, the bidders know it, everybody knows it. But the corruption still prevails. This is more of we're gonna do whatever we want politics. Why should this be swept under the rug? This should be exposed along with everyone who has and had a part in every aspect of this deal. Investigate everyone under the RECO ACT. Everyone and their brother.

After the fiscal cliff debacle. I have decided on a new voting strategy.
I will no longer vote for anyone, republican or democrat that has been in office longer than 1 term.
I want my politicians getting in and working on problems not reelections.
Career politicians are killing this country!!

My strategy applies down to local level as well.

I still would like to know how this saves us money? because the laborer does not have to get out of the truck? I am assuming plastic, cardboard and newspaper will all go in one blue can like we have at drumpoint fields and then need to be sorted at a transfer station. So we need more labor to sort the one combined truck instead of sorting at the homes at pickup. Anyone have any answers? or do we just need to spend money to make someone happy?

They could do that now and not spend anything on trucks or containers. Pick up every 2 weeks and save money. So we get less service and get to pay the same or more? How long will it take to recover the investment in the equipment and containers?

One of the things I love about living in Brick is that we have recycling picked up once a week. Our family tries to recycle everything and with a pick-up every other week and one garbage can (even a big one) we will not be able to fit all of our recycling in it.

Thanks for correcting my typo Glenn. Your correct it is BID RIGGING. By the time any payback is realized on this it will be time to purchase new trucks and cans. This is an insult. I had leaf bags sitting all along the block here for two months, I had to pick the phone up and call for them to get picked up. And Glenn that is Taxation Without Representation in my book. Same treatment as when we couldn't get plowed our for days. It's despicable!

Dan Nee,

can you find out if will we be able to purchase a second recycle can as we are permitted to do with the regular trash bins? I know after 2 weeks I could have more than 1 cans worth of stuff to recycle.

thanks,

C/D

Why not hold off on this contract all together & allocate the $2 million to further help the residents that fell victim to Superstorm Sandy!!!!!

I want to congratulate the Director of P.W. and Council for thier decision to award the contract to Grand Turk. I understand that these are the same trucks the township has been using since 1996 with no problems of the roof or sides splitting or rupturing.
And are still working today, these are the same trucks that Waste Management and Republic Waste uses in thier automated truck fleet, and these co's don't have to go out to bid. If you can save close to $4,000.00 per truck, do not have to retrain your mechanics, drivers or restock your parts room with new truck body parts it sounds to me that this decision was made with the best intrest of the Tax Payers in mind.

Yes Tommy very serious, Do you know the cost of one dump cylinder piston, $7500.00 for a new one, so lets spend more money for untried trucks and throw out the existing inventory and restock with prices such as these. Thats great planning.

What does the dump or blade piston have to with the brand of truck? a truck body can be installed on any truck.

My last comment is at you Bertha. Obviously you have an interest beyond a tax payers interest.

Thank you Sal for an intelligent response, Cosmo, the truck body is what is in question (if what I saw from the Council meeting is the only issus) but yes I do undesrtand that these trucks are a combo of two companies, the cab and body
And Tommy please keep to your pledge and do not respond.
Thank You all. .